(10-05-2015 11:10 AM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 09:08 AM)ECUmedford Wrote:  The FCS atmosphere of some of our stadiums is detrimental to the perception of our league. As much as I want to see ECU away games on TV I would rather ESPN televise the teams that are putting butts in seats.

Of the 12 football teams: ECU, UCF, Cincy, Navy, Memphis, Houston, and sometimes Temple have very TV friendly atmospheres. The problem with us is that there's no gray area. Half of the conference looks good on TV, the other half looks embarrassing. But, there's tremendous potential in SMU especially, but also Tulsa and UConn to quickly get back to respectability.

Always found it strange that as good as some of those Tulsa teams were, the town of Tulsa never seemed to embrace that program. You'd think with no pro football competition, Tulsa football would be a great entertainment option.

(10-05-2015 11:38 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 11:10 AM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 09:08 AM)ECUmedford Wrote:  The FCS atmosphere of some of our stadiums is detrimental to the perception of our league. As much as I want to see ECU away games on TV I would rather ESPN televise the teams that are putting butts in seats.

Of the 12 football teams: ECU, UCF, Cincy, Navy, Memphis, Houston, and sometimes Temple have very TV friendly atmospheres. The problem with us is that there's no gray area. Half of the conference looks good on TV, the other half looks embarrassing. But, there's tremendous potential in SMU especially, but also Tulsa and UConn to quickly get back to respectability.

Always found it strange that as good as some of those Tulsa teams were, the town of Tulsa never seemed to embrace that program. You'd think with no pro football competition, Tulsa football would be a great entertainment option.

Agreed, esp. considering how much the area has grown. What's always thrown me off is that when you hear "University of Tulsa," you assume it's a public city commuter school and not a private school with 4,500 students. So I guess from that perspective they're really at the largest disadvantage in the whole conference.

(10-05-2015 11:10 AM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 09:08 AM)ECUmedford Wrote:  The FCS atmosphere of some of our stadiums is detrimental to the perception of our league. As much as I want to see ECU away games on TV I would rather ESPN televise the teams that are putting butts in seats.

Of the 12 football teams: ECU, UCF, Cincy, Navy, Memphis, Houston, and sometimes Temple have very TV friendly atmospheres. The problem with us is that there's no gray area. Half of the conference looks good on TV, the other half looks embarrassing. But, there's tremendous potential in SMU especially, but also Tulsa and UConn to quickly get back to respectability.

UConn's crowds have not looked bad on TV this year. The stadium has been pretty loud too. Hopefully that continues and improves as we get into the colder weather and divisional play. Our problem over the last few years has really been the last few home games after we've known we're not getting to a bowl and having played boring, losing football all season. If we are fighting for bowl eligibility or a winning record our year end crowds should remain solid.

IMO every single team in our league (not tulsa) looks great on tv when they are winning

heres usf when they used to be good (cant see to much of the crowd but you can here it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_tdb-hGetc

tulsa is really the only team that looks bad, not matter how good/bad the team is.....tulane is drawing much but their stadium only has 24 actual seats (30k capacity with standing room)

im fine with our "tv games" its the same everywhere its just relative...

(10-05-2015 07:21 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 12:46 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 09:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 08:23 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  I think that's been the other positive thus far this year - our primetime/big games have "looked the part" on TV. Nippert, Liberty Bowl, Dowdy Ficklen, the Linc v. Penn State make you want to stay on the channel when you're flipping through games (for the average fan). It looks way, way bigger time than C-USA.

Now, with respect to Houston I haven't seen TDECU since you all have been winning this year - not sure if the crowd has come. If it has, then honestly I think we'd have a number of really consistently good football atmospheres for TV this season. We've got plenty of really bad attendance situations, but thus far it seems like we'll be 50/50 - which is something no other G5 conference can come close to saying.

EDIT: Forgot to mention Navy, man Navy has been such a payoff for us

The crowds have been good this year. We had 31K for an FCS team and Texas State we had just over 35K---which was our second biggest on campus crowd in history. That crowd was lively and fun. So---the trend is good.

That said---Im concerned about this Thursday night. We will be playing at the same time the Texans are playing in Reliant (horrible scheduling). Many of our season ticket holders own seats to both the Coogs and Texans. I think the students will show up in record numbers Thursday. Hopefully, the crappy state of the Texans will have most of our dual season ticket holders heading to TDECU over watching a lack luster Texans team play.

Texans product is poor horrible... Hell, you couldn't pay me watch them play.

The real football is at the University Of Houston stadium... I'm confident UH/Houston will do just fine come game day, atmosphere is going to be phenomenal, hands down.

is smu enough of a rival / draw for UH? The key for any of us is to draw for all games, not just the biggies. the other key is win the ooc games. the 'merican teams do that, only good things can happen.

Not sure how to answer your question... Part of me thinks yes SMU is a rival, but not confident enough when one of the two (SMU) has been down for so long.

(10-04-2015 08:29 PM)robe Wrote:  I hope my BYU leadership took notice. It seems to me that AAC relationship has gone cold. I think we play our last AAC team in 18.

Unless BYU joins the Big XII, it seems impossible to me that BYU will not be playing additional games against AAC-opponents after 2018. But scheduling is sometimes a weird process, so there might be a year or two when the two sides don't have any mutual open-dates.

We're the WAC for a new generation.

And I mean that is a very good way.

So many good teams it's going to be an amazing season.

(10-05-2015 07:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 08:29 PM)robe Wrote:  I hope my BYU leadership took notice. It seems to me that AAC relationship has gone cold. I think we play our last AAC team in 18.

Unless BYU joins the Big XII, it seems impossible to me that BYU will not be playing additional games against AAC-opponents after 2018. But scheduling is sometimes a weird process, so there might be a year or two when the two sides don't have any mutual open-dates.

BYU plays 2 more AAC games 16 Cincinnati and 17 ECU. That's it. We worked with Aresco with start of Indy and last years bowl. Now it's seems like the relationship has cooled.

Stewart Mandel with SI wrote the same idea of what all are saying here in this thread: http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ass-100515

"The former Big East has emerged as one of this season’s most intriguingly competitive conferences. Four teams – Memphis (5-0), Temple (4-0), Navy (4-0) and Herman’s Cougars – sit between 28th and 31st in the latest AP poll, going by the “others receiving votes” section. Only the Big Ten and Big 12 also have four unbeaten teams remaining. The league as a whole is 9-1 against Herman’s so-called “Group of Four” opponents and 5-7 against the ACC, Big 12 and Big Ten.

And the teams at the top could not be more different stylistically. While high-flying Memphis, led by star QB Paxton Lynch, managed to win a game in which it allowed 752 yards of offense (against Cincinnati), Temple held Penn State to 180. Cincinnati’s quarterbacks average 45.4 pass attempts per game. Navy runs the triple-option."

Good article, you should give him a click. He said our conference is must-see Thursday TV.

(10-05-2015 10:01 PM)robe Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 07:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 08:29 PM)robe Wrote:  I hope my BYU leadership took notice. It seems to me that AAC relationship has gone cold. I think we play our last AAC team in 18.

Unless BYU joins the Big XII, it seems impossible to me that BYU will not be playing additional games against AAC-opponents after 2018. But scheduling is sometimes a weird process, so there might be a year or two when the two sides don't have any mutual open-dates.

BYU plays 2 more AAC games 16 Cincinnati and 17 ECU. That's it. We worked with Aresco with start of Indy and last years bowl. Now it's seems like the relationship has cooled.

Yeah. Aresco gave you guys a taste. It is time to join.

(10-05-2015 10:01 PM)robe Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 07:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-04-2015 08:29 PM)robe Wrote:  I hope my BYU leadership took notice. It seems to me that AAC relationship has gone cold. I think we play our last AAC team in 18.

Unless BYU joins the Big XII, it seems impossible to me that BYU will not be playing additional games against AAC-opponents after 2018. But scheduling is sometimes a weird process, so there might be a year or two when the two sides don't have any mutual open-dates.

BYU plays 2 more AAC games 16 Cincinnati and 17 ECU. That's it. We worked with Aresco with start of Indy and last years bowl. Now it's seems like the relationship has cooled.

BYU holds the cards in this. Not a single AAC team would reject playing them. I suspect it is that BYU just wants to do their own thing as it has in the past. Correct me if Im wrong but a lot of it is just giving the LDS members opportunities to see BYU in their area. I dont blame them a bit for their scheduling strategy. It is in their own best interests to not get too bogged down playing particular teams regularly.