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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 11:02 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:39 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:29 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:21 AM)esayem Wrote:  Wow a lot of east coast bias here. You guys are brain dead if you think the AAC can just pluck schools from the Mountain West. Hello!!! They already failed!

Surprised with that UNC education you can spell AAC07-coffee3

05-ban You sir.....

You just made me spit my lunch on my desk. 03-lmfao
Besides Air Force joining with Army and Navy the MWC has not much to offer.SMU ,Tulsa and Tulane are have small stadiums and offer little to the AAC.uConn has a 40k stadium and has won numerous national championships in both mens and womans bb.
Also still has a chance to move the P5 SMU,Tulane and Tulsa have no chance to move to the P5

I tend to agree.

SMU has got some bucks though and does have the Pony Express tradition (tainted as it is). From the perspective of the AAC they still would be considered a project school until they can fill that stadium up.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 11:02 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:39 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:29 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:21 AM)esayem Wrote:  Wow a lot of east coast bias here. You guys are brain dead if you think the AAC can just pluck schools from the Mountain West. Hello!!! They already failed!

Surprised with that UNC education you can spell AAC07-coffee3

05-ban You sir.....

You just made me spit my lunch on my desk. 03-lmfao
Besides Air Force joining with Army and Navy the MWC has not much to offer.SMU ,Tulsa and Tulane are have small stadiums and offer little to the AAC.uConn has a 40k stadium and has won numerous national championships in both mens and womans bb.
Also still has a chance to move the P5 SMU,Tulane and Tulsa have no chance to move to the P5

SMU has about as much chance as UConn which is pretty slim for both right now. . . Don't care whether "Melky's" new handle thinks SMU has no chance at a P5. . . About the same slim chance UConn has.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 10:29 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:21 AM)esayem Wrote:  Wow a lot of east coast bias here. You guys are brain dead if you think the AAC can just pluck schools from the Mountain West. Hello!!! They already failed!

Surprised with that UNC education you can spell AAC07-coffee3

I actually had my tutor write that post. 03-shhhh
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 11:40 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:02 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:39 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:29 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:21 AM)esayem Wrote:  Wow a lot of east coast bias here. You guys are brain dead if you think the AAC can just pluck schools from the Mountain West. Hello!!! They already failed!

Surprised with that UNC education you can spell AAC07-coffee3

05-ban You sir.....

You just made me spit my lunch on my desk. 03-lmfao
Besides Air Force joining with Army and Navy the MWC has not much to offer.SMU ,Tulsa and Tulane are have small stadiums and offer little to the AAC.uConn has a 40k stadium and has won numerous national championships in both mens and womans bb.
Also still has a chance to move the P5 SMU,Tulane and Tulsa have no chance to move to the P5

SMU has about as much chance as UConn which is pretty slim for both right now. . . Don't care whether "Melky's" new handle thinks SMU has no chance at a P5. . . About the same slim chance UConn has.
SMU and its 30k stadium are lucky to be in the AAC rather than CUSA.
The chance of SMU entering the B12 has no chance,while the top levels of the AAC have some.

Also how many national championships in bb has SMU won? None
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The preferential treatment of Boise State could help a raid.
The other MWC schools look down on BSU because of academics . The Boise first TV contract has to anger the other schools. Boise State is usually referred to as the junior college by opposing fans in the region.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 04:03 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:40 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:02 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:39 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:29 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  Surprised with that UNC education you can spell AAC07-coffee3

05-ban You sir.....

You just made me spit my lunch on my desk. 03-lmfao
Besides Air Force joining with Army and Navy the MWC has not much to offer.SMU ,Tulsa and Tulane are have small stadiums and offer little to the AAC.uConn has a 40k stadium and has won numerous national championships in both mens and womans bb.
Also still has a chance to move the P5 SMU,Tulane and Tulsa have no chance to move to the P5

SMU has about as much chance as UConn which is pretty slim for both right now. . . Don't care whether "Melky's" new handle thinks SMU has no chance at a P5. . . About the same slim chance UConn has.
SMU and its 30k stadium are lucky to be in the AAC rather than CUSA.
The chance of SMU entering the B12 has no chance,while the top levels of the AAC have some.

Also how many national championships in bb has SMU won? None


LOL OK. . . You gonna be standing by the phone for a long time for the Big 10, ACC, or Big XII call your sorry @$$ football program. . . Like I said UCan't has no chance at either. Someday, UCan't should try beating SMU in "any" men's sport.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 05:16 PM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 04:03 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:40 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:02 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 10:39 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  05-ban You sir.....

You just made me spit my lunch on my desk. 03-lmfao
Besides Air Force joining with Army and Navy the MWC has not much to offer.SMU ,Tulsa and Tulane are have small stadiums and offer little to the AAC.uConn has a 40k stadium and has won numerous national championships in both mens and womans bb.
Also still has a chance to move the P5 SMU,Tulane and Tulsa have no chance to move to the P5

SMU has about as much chance as UConn which is pretty slim for both right now. . . Don't care whether "Melky's" new handle thinks SMU has no chance at a P5. . . About the same slim chance UConn has.
SMU and its 30k stadium are lucky to be in the AAC rather than CUSA.
The chance of SMU entering the B12 has no chance,while the top levels of the AAC have some.

Also how many national championships in bb has SMU won? None


LOL OK. . . You gonna be standing by the phone for a long time for the Big 10, ACC, or Big XII call your sorry @$$ football program. . . Like I said UCan't has no chance at either. Someday, UCan't should try beating SMU in "any" men's sport.

The eastern division of the AAC with the addition of BYU with UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU is clearly the superior division in football

The west has Houston and Memphis leading the way in football in terms of winning and facilities.Then it will have two national teams Navy and Army.
Then there are the 3 privates Tulane and their new 25k stadium and Tulsa and SMU and their 30k plus stadiums.Lucky for SMU its in Dallas and its large tv market.

AAC will be far the most likely to gain a bid to the national playoff(ahead of the MWC,CUSA,Sun Belt and MAC)Also the ability to match the P5 in new expenses.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 05:30 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 05:16 PM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 04:03 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:40 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 11:02 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  Besides Air Force joining with Army and Navy the MWC has not much to offer.SMU ,Tulsa and Tulane are have small stadiums and offer little to the AAC.uConn has a 40k stadium and has won numerous national championships in both mens and womans bb.
Also still has a chance to move the P5 SMU,Tulane and Tulsa have no chance to move to the P5

SMU has about as much chance as UConn which is pretty slim for both right now. . . Don't care whether "Melky's" new handle thinks SMU has no chance at a P5. . . About the same slim chance UConn has.
SMU and its 30k stadium are lucky to be in the AAC rather than CUSA.
The chance of SMU entering the B12 has no chance,while the top levels of the AAC have some.

Also how many national championships in bb has SMU won? None


LOL OK. . . You gonna be standing by the phone for a long time for the Big 10, ACC, or Big XII call your sorry @$$ football program. . . Like I said UCan't has no chance at either. Someday, UCan't should try beating SMU in "any" men's sport.

The eastern division of the AAC with the addition of BYU with UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU is clearly the superior division in football

The west has Houston and Memphis leading the way in football in terms of winning and facilities.Then it will have two national teams Navy and Army.
Then there are the 3 privates Tulane and their new 25k stadium and Tulsa and SMU and their 30k plus stadiums.Lucky for SMU its in Dallas and its large tv market.

AAC will be far the most likely to gain a bid to the national playoff(ahead of the MWC,CUSA,Sun Belt and MAC)Also the ability to match the P5 in new expenses.

You keep on enjoying your Grand Delusion 07-coffee3
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 08:52 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  AAC West- (BYU Football)
AAC East- Army (Football only)

Wrong

Army joins Navy in the western division

BYU does not want a yearly series with SMU,Tulane,Tulsa

BYU want UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU


They want want entry to the national championship series and they will not get it by playing SMU,TULANE,Navy and Army.They could rejoin MWC and get the same type of competition.

Travel costs are not significant since they want football only.

Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 08:52 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  AAC West- (BYU Football)
AAC East- Army (Football only)

Wrong

Army joins Navy in the western division

BYU does not want a yearly series with SMU,Tulane,Tulsa

BYU want UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU


They want want entry to the national championship series and they will not get it by playing SMU,TULANE,Navy and Army.They could rejoin MWC and get the same type of competition.

Travel costs are not significant since they want football only.

Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
Boise lost its top notch hc.
Boise tv market is quite small.
Boise never finished its law suit with the AAC(BE)
Why do you think the AAC would take a weakened Boise St in a poor tv market

BYU has better tv contract than the AAC
BYU does not want to be in a division with Tulsa,Tulane and SMU.
BYU will get a good deal from the AAC
BYU already has a bowl deal with the AAC

Army will be in the same division as Navy
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 06:38 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  Wrong

Army joins Navy in the western division

BYU does not want a yearly series with SMU,Tulane,Tulsa

BYU want UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU


They want want entry to the national championship series and they will not get it by playing SMU,TULANE,Navy and Army.They could rejoin MWC and get the same type of competition.

Travel costs are not significant since they want football only.

Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
Boise lost its top notch hc.
Boise tv market is quite small.
Boise never finished its law suit with the AAC(BE)
Why do you think the AAC would take a weakened Boise St in a poor tv market

BYU has better tv contract than the AAC
BYU does not want to be in a division with Tulsa,Tulane and SMU.
BYU will get a good deal from the AAC
BYU already has a bowl deal with the AAC

Army will be in the same division as Navy

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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 06:45 PM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 06:38 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
Boise lost its top notch hc.
Boise tv market is quite small.
Boise never finished its law suit with the AAC(BE)
Why do you think the AAC would take a weakened Boise St in a poor tv market

BYU has better tv contract than the AAC
BYU does not want to be in a division with Tulsa,Tulane and SMU.
BYU will get a good deal from the AAC
BYU already has a bowl deal with the AAC

Army will be in the same division as Navy

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grand delusion makes me sleepy 03-yawn
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 06:38 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  Wrong

Army joins Navy in the western division

BYU does not want a yearly series with SMU,Tulane,Tulsa

BYU want UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU


They want want entry to the national championship series and they will not get it by playing SMU,TULANE,Navy and Army.They could rejoin MWC and get the same type of competition.

Travel costs are not significant since they want football only.

Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
Boise lost its top notch hc.
Boise tv market is quite small.
Boise never finished its law suit with the AAC(BE)
Why do you think the AAC would take a weakened Boise St in a poor tv market

BYU has better tv contract than the AAC
BYU does not want to be in a division with Tulsa,Tulane and SMU.
BYU will get a good deal from the AAC
BYU already has a bowl deal with the AAC

Army will be in the same division as Navy

Because the big boys no longer want to play in the same league with programs like Wyoming, La Tech, South Alabama, GSU, Troy, Marshall, the rest of the lower G5 teams. And realistically many of them should not have to. It's gotten very old watching a league where only a few chosen teams have a chance at a post season. Most of the gang of five need to be playing with the upper level FCS programs and that's the bitter truth.

I had a typo in my last post but D4 chatter is increasing every single month. BYU is not getting into D4, the MWC is not getting into D4, and the AAC is on the border but they are not getting in either. Boise State and BYU have consistently performed at a high level in football. So has Houston, Tulsa, UCF, ECU, Cincy, USF, do you get my point? If the choice is getting left out of D4 or joining the AAC Boise and BYU are going to join the AAC.

I'm not talking about a silly TV contract that would go void as soon as D4 is created. If BYU gets left behind guess who they will be playing on a consistent basis? The new FCS.

It's not always what BYU wants. They want to be in the Pac-12 with Utah but that's not an option. And it's foolish to even suggest passing up the chance to be in D4. Everyone in the new division would be getting the best recruits, the most tv time, and access to the only playoff people care about.
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RE: Thoughts on AAC expansion
(06-08-2014 08:36 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 06:38 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
Boise lost its top notch hc.
Boise tv market is quite small.
Boise never finished its law suit with the AAC(BE)
Why do you think the AAC would take a weakened Boise St in a poor tv market

BYU has better tv contract than the AAC
BYU does not want to be in a division with Tulsa,Tulane and SMU.
BYU will get a good deal from the AAC
BYU already has a bowl deal with the AAC

Army will be in the same division as Navy

Because the big boys no longer want to play in the same league with programs like Wyoming, La Tech, South Alabama, GSU, Troy, Marshall, the rest of the lower G5 teams. And realistically many of them should not have to. It's gotten very old watching a league where only a few chosen teams have a chance at a post season. Most of the gang of five need to be playing with the upper level FCS programs and that's the bitter truth.

I had a typo in my last post but D4 chatter is increasing every single month. BYU is not getting into D4, the MWC is not getting into D4, and the AAC is on the border but they are not getting in either. Boise State and BYU have consistently performed at a high level in football. So has Houston, Tulsa, UCF, ECU, Cincy, USF, do you get my point? If the choice is getting left out of D4 or joining the AAC Boise and BYU are going to join the AAC.

I'm not talking about a silly TV contract that would go void as soon as D4 is created. If BYU gets left behind guess who they will be playing on a consistent basis? The new FCS.

It's not always what BYU wants. They want to be in the Pac-12 with Utah but that's not an option. And it's foolish to even suggest passing up the chance to be in D4. Everyone in the new division would be getting the best recruits, the most tv time, and access to the only playoff people care about.
Boise St broke a deal with AAC(BE) and has a law suit against them that needs to be settled.Boise St lost its top notch coach.Boise St has no tv market.I hardly think the AAC is going to take them.
BYU in the AAC for football will help the AAC significantly.The AAC is the only G5 league where its members will keep with the new financial goals of the P5.BYU is not getting into the B12 or PAC 12.There best chance is to have the strongest football league because BYU is not getting late season games with P5 members
.Also the AAC has strong bb(UConn,Cinn,Memphis etc)They have lots of members who have 40k stadiums and good market size unlike the next strongest G5 league the MWC.
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It's not very smart for an SMU fan to scream "beat me, beat me" when UCONN just won the whole dang thing. I would gladly let SMU beat up on my team if it meant winning the national championship. The season is all about building your team up for the moment that matters (Louisville fans definitely get this). The season doesn't matter once the tournament starts and UCONN was primed ready to go while SMU unfairly didn't get the chance. It's great for you guys that you beat them twice this year, but people will only remember that they won the national championship, not what happened to them along the way.

But football on the other hand, you've got a point so feel free to continue. 04-rock
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Just blame Tulane and Tulsa when the fortunes of your athletic department don't go as you had originally planned. They're the REAL problem here. Tulane and Tulsa are 100% at fault for the failure of the Big East, the disappointing TV contract of the AAC, and the decision of the P5 to split off and leave the G5 behind. It is also true that Tulane and Tulsa are to blame for attendance figures that do not meet "proper G5 standard". Furthermore, the incompetent actions of Banowsky and Hair are fully connected to the deplorable actions of Tulane and Tulsa. Boise State were also going to form strong relationships in the AAC - but *** **** Tulane and Tulsa got in the way and ruined that, too.

Never before have two schools done so much damage in such a short period of time.
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(06-09-2014 10:20 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  It's not very smart for an SMU fan to scream "beat me, beat me" when UCONN just won the whole dang thing. I would gladly let SMU beat up on my team if it meant winning the national championship. The season is all about building your team up for the moment that matters (Louisville fans definitely get this). The season doesn't matter once the tournament starts and UCONN was primed ready to go while SMU unfairly didn't get the chance. It's great for you guys that you beat them twice this year, but people will only remember that they won the national championship, not what happened to them along the way.

But football on the other hand, you've got a point so feel free to continue. 04-rock

My point wasn't "beat me beat me." My point was responding to a UConn troll who said that SMU has no chance at a P5 invite. . . About the same chance as UConn or Cincy getting a P5 invite. . . You should try reading comprehension some time.
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(06-09-2014 04:01 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 08:36 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 06:38 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.
Boise lost its top notch hc.
Boise tv market is quite small.
Boise never finished its law suit with the AAC(BE)
Why do you think the AAC would take a weakened Boise St in a poor tv market

BYU has better tv contract than the AAC
BYU does not want to be in a division with Tulsa,Tulane and SMU.
BYU will get a good deal from the AAC
BYU already has a bowl deal with the AAC

Army will be in the same division as Navy

Because the big boys no longer want to play in the same league with programs like Wyoming, La Tech, South Alabama, GSU, Troy, Marshall, the rest of the lower G5 teams. And realistically many of them should not have to. It's gotten very old watching a league where only a few chosen teams have a chance at a post season. Most of the gang of five need to be playing with the upper level FCS programs and that's the bitter truth.

I had a typo in my last post but D4 chatter is increasing every single month. BYU is not getting into D4, the MWC is not getting into D4, and the AAC is on the border but they are not getting in either. Boise State and BYU have consistently performed at a high level in football. So has Houston, Tulsa, UCF, ECU, Cincy, USF, do you get my point? If the choice is getting left out of D4 or joining the AAC Boise and BYU are going to join the AAC.

I'm not talking about a silly TV contract that would go void as soon as D4 is created. If BYU gets left behind guess who they will be playing on a consistent basis? The new FCS.

It's not always what BYU wants. They want to be in the Pac-12 with Utah but that's not an option. And it's foolish to even suggest passing up the chance to be in D4. Everyone in the new division would be getting the best recruits, the most tv time, and access to the only playoff people care about.
Boise St broke a deal with AAC(BE) and has a law suit against them that needs to be settled.Boise St lost its top notch coach.Boise St has no tv market.I hardly think the AAC is going to take them.
BYU in the AAC for football will help the AAC significantly.The AAC is the only G5 league where its members will keep with the new financial goals of the P5.BYU is not getting into the B12 or PAC 12.There best chance is to have the strongest football league because BYU is not getting late season games with P5 members
.Also the AAC has strong bb(UConn,Cinn,Memphis etc)They have lots of members who have 40k stadiums and good market size unlike the next strongest G5 league the MWC.

Speaking of the Boise lawsuit---


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(06-08-2014 05:42 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 11:11 AM)prp Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 08:52 AM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:  AAC West- (BYU Football)
AAC East- Army (Football only)

Wrong

Army joins Navy in the western division

BYU does not want a yearly series with SMU,Tulane,Tulsa

BYU want UConn,Cinn,USF,UCF and ECU


They want want entry to the national championship series and they will not get it by playing SMU,TULANE,Navy and Army.They could rejoin MWC and get the same type of competition.

Travel costs are not significant since they want football only.

Pretty sure BYU wants neither of these, or they would have joined the AAC already.

Exactly! They are not going to join a conference that is perceived lower than Utah's. Now, if Utah were an independent the Utes would not be considered a P5 opponent either, so BYU can still say that.

Faulty logic.

Right now BYU is not perceived as a power team. At their current rate they will only continue to become the next ECU. A team that used to play with the big boys and had success as an indy with great fan support until politics got in the way.

BYU is not getting into a power conference unless a miracle happens. And like others have said, we are coming closer and closer to a division 4 every month. I give it two more years before division 4 starts and there will not be any independents.

BYU is likely going to fight it out until the last minute but if the AAC were to land BYU it's honestly hard to find any valid debate to leave them out of D4.

But like I said as of right now the AAC, MWC, or BYU will likely make the cut. And at that last minute I seriously don't see Boise State letting everything they have worked for the last thirty years go to waste. They would try and join the AAC with BYU.

Faulty logic yet BYU left the MWC before the door even shut behind Utah. People need to give up this idea that the American has anything better to offer western schools than the MWC.
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