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RE: Arrogant ILL-ini writer
Who is this bozo? He argues points that are the reasons things were moved from UI, like price gauging(which unfortunately is likely going on at NIU) and then gives his "$100 room" solution. Really? The Chancellor is going to go along? Maybe the issue was 2 night requirement too. Maybe the fact that about 85% of the state's population is a 90 minute ride from DeKalb and don't want to deal with getting a room anywhere, especially DeKalb. I will admit however, this is an issue for teams and their fans that have to stay in DeKalb from d-state. Lack of hotels along with outdated and crackhouse/methlabs running out of one right in the middle of campus is an issue too.

This has nothing do about "history". DeKalb, CU, Peoria. UI has it, no doubt. But when you go into that renovated thing now at Memorial Stadium, take the field, much is gone. Assembly Hall? Really. Great place to watch a game, if UI is playing and raked in the top 25. Sure, some great teams in the past but I would not call it "historic" and idolized by teens all over the State. And they deserve bball over Peoria why again? I mean you can make many arguments, many valid against DeKalb (which he doesn't) but to argue against Peoria when most admit they do a good job, have a great facility? And the great UI baseball and softball history too? Darrin Fletcher, Donn Paul and Jeff Innis? (Exactly...I just know because I played fantasy bball in the 80's and 90's and my brother went there in the 80's and knew them)Oh, right,I forgot. They should get them all because "they all should be at C-U."

I see this article in 2 parts. First being we are UI, we are B10, we are better than you, we deserve it because I say we do. That don't cut it.I do give him credit for saying they did screw up, but the "2nd chance" thing is bs.

The other thing is d-state vs. Chicago area. As others have said, you are either N of I80 or South of it. They have made countless changes to add more classes, regional brackets to help dstate and small towns representation. That's fine, but admit what it is. But admit what this is about. You basically don't like us "northern, big city folks" stealin' $ from your town.
06-07-2014 10:37 PM
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RE: Arrogant ILL-ini writer
(06-06-2014 08:11 AM)BobL Wrote:  
(06-06-2014 07:46 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(06-05-2014 05:49 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Another example of the self-righteous arrogance of people connected to the ILL-ness.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-...-call.html

What this clown doesn't understand is that there are kids now dreaming of being a finalist for the Heisman Trophy. The idea that the IHSA had the economic common sense to see if hosting championships elsewhere could be better for ticket sales, atmosphere, and the fans is lost on this idiot.

There are football players in the state who dream about stepping onto the field where Dick Butkus once scared running backs.

Where Red Grange toasted Michigan.

Where Howard Griffith ran for eight touchdowns.

i guarantee you, ask any high school player if they ever heard of any of these three and they would give you a blank look. What he doesn't talk about is how they gouge you on room rates down there.

Not sure kids today know any of those names.

I was there. 03-shhhh

I once saw him doing a show for ESPN radio a few years ago and asked him to sign a cup so I could give it to my bother. I told him we were there when he scored "7 td's" he was the Galloping Griffith and if he could sign it that way. He just laughed. He signed it "Howard Griffith, NCAA record 8tds." Safe to say I was a little03-drunk, especially when my buddy looked at the cup and pointed out it was 8, not 7 td's.

Good humored guy....at least I think he was.
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(06-07-2014 10:37 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  And the great UI baseball and softball history too? Darrin Fletcher, Donn Paul and Jeff Innis?

The facility is nowhere near as nice as some of the minor league parks (which are probably the right spots for the IHSA finals), but UI has 29 Big Ten baseball titles and they are 16th in the country in all-time wins.

Softball on the other hand has no history, the program is only about 15-20 years old.
06-08-2014 04:24 PM
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Great baseball history? They haven't even made the College World Series while SIU and Bradley (twice) have.
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(06-08-2014 06:57 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Great baseball history? They haven't even made the College World Series while SIU and Bradley (twice) have.

If you want to ignore nearly 30 conference titles (2nd most in the B1G) and consistency, then you're more than welcome to. That doesn't mean it's not historically been a very good northern baseball program, because it has been and still is.

That said, SIU had a great run under Itch Jones and has had a lot of success, although they've scuffled recently (they haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 1990). Bradley has never really sustained it, although they are over .500 all-time. As a state, Illinois has really done pretty well for a northern locale.
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(06-07-2014 10:21 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Policiious Wrote:  DeKalb is a better location for most of the teams that have played in title games in the previous 10 years with the exception of East St Louis, Bloomington, Bloomington Central Catholic or Springfield Sacred Heart Griffin. East St Louis and Springfield are a substantial distance to Champaign also.

Have not been to the state hoops finals in Peoria but it's closer to metro Chicago than Champaign and the Peoria region is a hoops hotbed, they deserve a tournament. My brother in law has coached girls jr high and HS hoops the past 25 years and he believes Bloomington has done a fine job hosting the women's tournament. Bloomington is a fine centralized location as well, not far from Chicago and within 2 hours of Champaign, Danville, Peoria, Springfield & Decatur.

Um...No.

Meant to say that Peoria is closer to Chicago than Champaign is.
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(06-08-2014 07:32 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 06:57 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Great baseball history? They haven't even made the College World Series while SIU and Bradley (twice) have.

If you want to ignore nearly 30 conference titles (2nd most in the B1G) and consistency, then you're more than welcome to. That doesn't mean it's not historically been a very good northern baseball program, because it has been and still is.

That said, SIU had a great run under Itch Jones and has had a lot of success, although they've scuffled recently (they haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 1990). Bradley has never really sustained it, although they are over .500 all-time. As a state, Illinois has really done pretty well for a northern locale.

Yeah I'll do just that. B1G baseball is garbage. It's been something like 30 years since any B1G team has made the College World Series. It's a midmajor league in baseball.
06-08-2014 09:38 PM
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(06-08-2014 09:31 PM)Policiious Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:21 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Policiious Wrote:  DeKalb is a better location for most of the teams that have played in title games in the previous 10 years with the exception of East St Louis, Bloomington, Bloomington Central Catholic or Springfield Sacred Heart Griffin. East St Louis and Springfield are a substantial distance to Champaign also.

Have not been to the state hoops finals in Peoria but it's closer to metro Chicago than Champaign and the Peoria region is a hoops hotbed, they deserve a tournament. My brother in law has coached girls jr high and HS hoops the past 25 years and he believes Bloomington has done a fine job hosting the women's tournament. Bloomington is a fine centralized location as well, not far from Chicago and within 2 hours of Champaign, Danville, Peoria, Springfield & Decatur.

Um...No.

Meant to say that Peoria is closer to Chicago than Champaign is.

Um...No to that also.
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(06-08-2014 09:31 PM)Policiious Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:21 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 10:13 AM)Policiious Wrote:  DeKalb is a better location for most of the teams that have played in title games in the previous 10 years with the exception of East St Louis, Bloomington, Bloomington Central Catholic or Springfield Sacred Heart Griffin. East St Louis and Springfield are a substantial distance to Champaign also.

Have not been to the state hoops finals in Peoria but it's closer to metro Chicago than Champaign and the Peoria region is a hoops hotbed, they deserve a tournament. My brother in law has coached girls jr high and HS hoops the past 25 years and he believes Bloomington has done a fine job hosting the women's tournament. Bloomington is a fine centralized location as well, not far from Chicago and within 2 hours of Champaign, Danville, Peoria, Springfield & Decatur.

Um...No.

Meant to say that Peoria is closer to Chicago than Champaign is.

Yeah you're still wrong.
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(06-08-2014 09:38 PM)Max Power Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 07:32 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 06:57 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Great baseball history? They haven't even made the College World Series while SIU and Bradley (twice) have.

If you want to ignore nearly 30 conference titles (2nd most in the B1G) and consistency, then you're more than welcome to. That doesn't mean it's not historically been a very good northern baseball program, because it has been and still is.

That said, SIU had a great run under Itch Jones and has had a lot of success, although they've scuffled recently (they haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 1990). Bradley has never really sustained it, although they are over .500 all-time. As a state, Illinois has really done pretty well for a northern locale.

Yeah I'll do just that. B1G baseball is garbage. It's been something like 30 years since any B1G team has made the College World Series. It's a midmajor league in baseball.

Indiana made it last year.
06-08-2014 10:12 PM
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Okay but it's their only appearance the last 30 years. In the same time period the Missouri Valley has made 9 appearances with 4 teams (Indiana State, Wichita State, Missouri State, Creighton) including a national title. B1G baseball is irrelevant and none of its programs are "great."

Found the record book:

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/baseball_c...eneral.pdf

Peoria may be somewhat closer to Chicago than Champaign in terms of miles but because there is no direct interstate link between them it's a shorter drive from Champaign to Chicago.
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