Miami University's AD quoted in this article on how much the MAC teams are getting for OOC games. I think this will go up even further now that everybody is cutting out FCS games. G5 will be only teams for them to schedule going forward.

Mid-major programs, in particular, are in position to benefit from conferences such as the Big Ten like never before.

"We go out to 2020, we're getting $1.5 million from somebody," Sayler said. "There's going to be growth built in each year. The numbers keep going up. Sayler, in fact, won't even field calls to schedule a football game at a major conference program these days unless the payout starts at seven figures.

What is left when excluding power-five conference teams and the FCS are 63 opponents from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference...

"Sometimes you don'€™t have much choice," Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez said. "There are only so many teams available, and it's very hard to find someone that's willing to come on an open date that matches yours. Many times, your back is to the wall and your selection is very small when you're scheduling these games."

"Everybody is running into that," said Alvarez, who is one of 13 members on the College Football Playoff selection committee. "They realize that we're trying to strengthen our schedule. We would prefer to have Division I schools and some BCS schools. Strength of schedule is going to come into play in the ratings system. So everybody is going after the same people. They understand the game also.

msn.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/million-dollars-baby-cost-of-big-ten-opponents-keeps-rising-060414

KSU received $1.3M from Alabama a couple of seasons ago. Saban (KSU '73) clearly played a role in that I would think. KSU used part of that to buy out a game at Purdue so they could go to 'Bama.



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I really feel pain about this situation. How will the P5 Conferences ever survive handing out that kind of cash? It will be even nicer when they fork over $1.5 Million and take a loss with it!

Both Akron and Umass are getting $850k to play at Penn State. That's slightly above the average Big Ten payout to FBS opponents.

56- The SEC will play 56 OOC games in 2014.
47- The SEC will play 47 OOC games at home in 2014.
43- The SEC will play 43 OOC games at home in 2014 vs G5 and FCS.
38- The SEC will play 38 OOC games at home in 2014 vs G5 and FCS that do no have a return game scheduled. (BUY-OUT games)
5- The SEC will play 5 OOC games on the road vs G5 and FCS in 2014.
3- The SEC will play 3 OOC games on the road vs G5 and FCS at a future date, or will buy it out.

Using SEC as an example since they are the big dog of the P5, 68% (38/56) of their home games this year are buyout games. Imagine what would happen if the G5 could band together and refuse to schedule OOC games vs P5 schools without a return game. Their scheduling model would collapse. Their only choice would be to schedule 1x1s with G5 schools or P5 schools and in spite of any false bluster coming from Nick Saban there is no way the SEC will increase the number of P5 opponents in OOC from 9 to 42.

(06-04-2014 09:19 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Both Akron and Umass are getting $850k to play at Penn State. That's slightly above the average Big Ten payout to FBS opponents.

Damn, SMU and UCF are getting $1,800,000 each to play Michigan

Does that include their paying your travel costs?

Ok so $1,700,000.

(06-04-2014 09:10 PM)chipfan Wrote:  I really feel pain about this situation. How will the P5 Conferences ever survive handing out that kind of cash? It will be even nicer when they fork over $1.5 Million and take a loss with it!

70,000 seats x $100 per ticket = $7,000,000 just in ticket revenue for 1 game. Schools like Alabama have more seats and more expensive tickets, so go from there. Penn State has more than 100,000 seats.

I wonder if there's extra money offered if you can help with strength-of-schedule? Maybe more money if you're a near-guaranteed win

(06-04-2014 09:10 PM)chipfan Wrote:  I really feel pain about this situation. How will the P5 Conferences ever survive handing out that kind of cash? It will be even nicer when they fork over $1.5 Million and take a loss with it!

Curious is this part is sarcastic?

(06-05-2014 07:17 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 09:10 PM)chipfan Wrote:  I really feel pain about this situation. How will the P5 Conferences ever survive handing out that kind of cash? It will be even nicer when they fork over $1.5 Million and take a loss with it!

70,000 seats x $100 per ticket = $7,000,000 just in ticket revenue for 1 game. Schools like Alabama have more seats and more expensive tickets, so go from there. Penn State has more than 100,000 seats.

I wonder if there's extra money offered if you can help with strength-of-schedule? Maybe more money if you're a near-guaranteed win

BTN is helping that conference dramatically.

Still, it's not like even w/ $1.5M payouts, that the gap is narrowing. It's still an ever increasing inequality.

From Bob McGovern

Quote:UMass will get a big payday for its Sept. 20 showdown with Penn State.

According to records obtained by FOX Sports Wisconsin, the Nittany Lions will play the Minutemen $850,000 for the game.

The details of the payout have been reported for some time, but the full contract had not been made public until now.

Akron will receive the same payout for its trip to Beaver Stadium.

UMass has done well with its pay-to-play games. Last year, the Minutemen raked in $900,000 to play Wisconsin. While contracts have not yet been seen, UMass is slated to receive $1 million from Notre Dame when it plays in South Bend, Ind. on Sept. 26, 2015 and $1.25 million from Florida when the teams play on Sept. 3, 2016.

http://umass.247sports.com/Board/59480/C...d-28979334

(06-04-2014 08:05 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Miami University's AD quoted in this article on how much the MAC teams are getting for OOC games. I think this will go up even further now that everybody is cutting out FCS games. G5 will be only teams for them to schedule going forward.

Mid-major programs, in particular, are in position to benefit from conferences such as the Big Ten like never before.

"We go out to 2020, we're getting $1.5 million from somebody," Sayler said. "There's going to be growth built in each year. The numbers keep going up. Sayler, in fact, won't even field calls to schedule a football game at a major conference program these days unless the payout starts at seven figures.

What is left when excluding power-five conference teams and the FCS are 63 opponents from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference...

"Sometimes you don'€™t have much choice," Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez said. "There are only so many teams available, and it's very hard to find someone that's willing to come on an open date that matches yours. Many times, your back is to the wall and your selection is very small when you're scheduling these games."

"Everybody is running into that," said Alvarez, who is one of 13 members on the College Football Playoff selection committee. "They realize that we're trying to strengthen our schedule. We would prefer to have Division I schools and some BCS schools. Strength of schedule is going to come into play in the ratings system. So everybody is going after the same people. They understand the game also.

msn.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/million-dollars-baby-cost-of-big-ten-opponents-keeps-rising-060414

Maybe they could, I don't know, play on the road? The G5 teams might make more effort then.

The P5 gets $75m a year more than the G5 for the CFP contract but throws us some change so we can come to their house and artificially boost their W/L record and we're supposed to be grateful for it. Penn State makes $4.8m/home game just in ticket revenue, $850K for a buyout to avoid travel costs is so generous. That's a net of +$4mil for them, but they're doing us the favor.

(06-04-2014 08:05 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  "Everybody is running into that," said Alvarez, who is one of 13 members on the College Football Playoff selection committee. "They realize that we're trying to strengthen our schedule. We would prefer to have Division I schools and some BCS schools. Strength of schedule is going to come into play in the ratings system. So everybody is going after the same people. They understand the game also.

No wonder most college football fans don't know who is in which part of the NCAA ~ not even Wisconsin AD Alvarez can be bothered to find out.

Looking at fbschedules.com, they've had a Division 1 FCS school every year back to 2008 (as far back as they list), with 2015 is the first year on their list Wisconsin plays an all-FBS schedule. And Alvarez talks as if the Badgers have been playing Division 2 schools all that time? Isn't knowing that stuff part of the AD's job?

Toledo Aug. 30 New Hampshire, 7:00 pm ET (ESPN3) Sep. 6 Missouri, Noon ET (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2) 12 at Cincinnati, 7:00 pm ET (ESPNU) 20 *Ball State 27 *Central Michigan Oct. 4 *at Western Michigan, 7:00 pm ET (TBA) 11 at Iowa State, 3:30 pm ET (Mediacom Cable/Cyclones.tv) 25 *UMass, 2:00 pm ET (TBA) Nov. 4 #*at Kent State, 8:00 pm ET (ESPN2/ESPNU) 11 #*at NIU, 8:00 pm ET (ESPN2/ESPNU) 19 #*Bowling Green, 8:00 pm ET (ESPN2/ESPNU) 28 #*at Eastern Michigan, TBD (ESPNU/ESPN3) - See more at: http://www.mac-sports.com/tabid/969/Arti...WfDSY.dpuf

(06-04-2014 10:31 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  56- The SEC will play 56 OOC games in 2014.
47- The SEC will play 47 OOC games at home in 2014.
43- The SEC will play 43 OOC games at home in 2014 vs G5 and FCS.
38- The SEC will play 38 OOC games at home in 2014 vs G5 and FCS that do no have a return game scheduled. (BUY-OUT games)
5- The SEC will play 5 OOC games on the road vs G5 and FCS in 2014.
3- The SEC will play 3 OOC games on the road vs G5 and FCS at a future date, or will buy it out.

Using SEC as an example since they are the big dog of the P5, 68% (38/56) of their home games this year are buyout games. Imagine what would happen if the G5 could band together and refuse to schedule OOC games vs P5 schools without a return game. Their scheduling model would collapse. Their only choice would be to schedule 1x1s with G5 schools or P5 schools and in spite of any false bluster coming from Nick Saban there is no way the SEC will increase the number of P5 opponents in OOC from 9 to 42.

I know that this is the approach with Toledo. They got a home and home with Ohio State, played the home game in Cleveland and made $3 million plus. Home and Home with Missouri, Iowa State, Miami (FL)

The more recent games games announced include Nevada, Fresno State, Tulsa and Arkansas Statee..I suspect that the result will be the big conferences keep money for themselves and the rest (MAC MWC Sunbelt) scheduling with each other
http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbm...ID=1436650

(06-06-2014 11:21 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 08:05 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  "Everybody is running into that," said Alvarez, who is one of 13 members on the College Football Playoff selection committee. "They realize that we're trying to strengthen our schedule. We would prefer to have Division I schools and some BCS schools. Strength of schedule is going to come into play in the ratings system. So everybody is going after the same people. They understand the game also.

No wonder most college football fans don't know who is in which part of the NCAA ~ not even Wisconsin AD Alvarez can be bothered to find out.

Looking at fbschedules.com, they've had a Division 1 FCS school every year back to 2008 (as far back as they list), with 2015 is the first year on their list Wisconsin plays an all-FBS schedule. And Alvarez talks as if the Badgers have been playing Division 2 schools all that time? Isn't knowing that stuff part of the AD's job?

Remember that FCS is Division 1

(06-06-2014 11:45 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 11:21 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 08:05 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  "Everybody is running into that," said Alvarez, who is one of 13 members on the College Football Playoff selection committee. "They realize that we're trying to strengthen our schedule. We would prefer to have Division I schools and some BCS schools. Strength of schedule is going to come into play in the ratings system. So everybody is going after the same people. They understand the game also.

No wonder most college football fans don't know who is in which part of the NCAA ~ not even Wisconsin AD Alvarez can be bothered to find out.

Looking at fbschedules.com, they've had a Division 1 FCS school every year back to 2008 (as far back as they list), with 2015 is the first year on their list Wisconsin plays an all-FBS schedule. And Alvarez talks as if the Badgers have been playing Division 2 schools all that time? Isn't knowing that stuff part of the AD's job?

Remember that FCS is Division 1

That's my point, so don't tell me ~ tell Barry.

Read what he said ... when he is saying he "wants "to play "all Division 1" and "some" BCS, what he clearly means is all FBS and some P5.

Set aside BCS as a shorthand for BCS AQ, since so many sports reporters have been in that habit (and never mind that the BCS term is obsolete, since much that he says can be expected to be obsolete), its clear that most people meant "BCS AQ" whenever they said "BCS" during most of the BCS era ...

... but "Division 1" as a shorthand for FBS is just egregious.

One of the aspects of these mega bucks to visitors is that combined with say 1M / team / year college playoff payouts + home gate, MAC teams are hauling in some nice bucks and more 'profitable' MAC teams can cover the cost of their FB program.

Assume: 1.5M (road game guarantees, could be higher) + 1M College FB playoff money + home game receipts + MAC TV = a black balance sheet number for football as schools like Toledo, NIU, Ohio, etc. (with nice home gates).

So my question is...(and I don't know the numbers well enough to say)...If KSU plays Ohio State and takes their cash, would that 1.5 million be more revenue for the team than the whole home schedule? Outside of any ESPN coverage out home games