If they actually enforced that minimum attendance rule, Idaho and a handful of other teams would be out of FBS. Idaho should be an FCS team as should another dozen or so FBS bottom feeders, yet none are begging to go back to FCS where they would just be rolling in cash from all of their savings (according to the anti-FBSers here).

Should the best teams in the FCS just move up to FBS ? I still don't understand why we should be in a rush to move up. Unless the money is too much to pass up.

(06-10-2014 03:38 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  If they actually enforced that minimum attendance rule, Idaho and a handful of other teams would be out of FBS. Idaho should be an FCS team as should another dozen or so FBS bottom feeders, yet none are begging to go back to FCS where they would just be rolling in cash from all of their savings (according to the anti-FBSers here).

Just out of curiosity, has anyone looked back through the records to see if schools like Idaho, who moved up, were they above the 15,000 as an FCS team and then have there attendance drop after moving up which would probably be due to poor play or poor competition or both.

(06-10-2014 03:43 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Should the best teams in the FCS just move up to FBS ? I still don't understand why we should be in a rush to move up. Unless the money is too much to pass up.

If were as simple as just applying for FBS, JMU likely would've applied last year. Unfortunately, as you know, we need to be invited to a conference and that is kinda tricky.

One a line by line basis, the money isn't too much to pass up. Certainly we'd see a nice bump in revenues which would likely be offest mostly through expenses though.

Where I do think people fail to see the forest through the trees though is how much just being FBS will increase our exposure. Just being an average FBS team will give JMU athletics (and by default JMU) more exposure than 5 straight FCS national championships will. Exposure and donations will increase and this will have a positive effect on JMU as a whole.

JMU athletics has had a tremendous amount of support for a school that has had a dreadful basektball team for two decades and plays "Division 2" football as well. I know our potential is there to have great fan support and great programs. JMU is much more like ECU than FAU and the fact that we're not doing everything in our power at this point to maximize the gains on our football team and the 100 million dollars spent on improving athletic infrastructure is frustrating.

(06-10-2014 02:53 PM)Phlegmish Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 05:53 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 04:45 PM)Phlegmish Wrote:  Potomac,

I apologize that I don't follow ODU sports as closely as you do. Exactly how long is the "transition" period and exactly how long are they ineligible for the Beef O'Brady Bowl?

As for scheduling, I still would rather have Richmond, William & Mary and Delaware than any of App. State's home games.

Just don't come on here belittling everyone's opinion like you always do when it's obvious you don't read enough to know what you're talking about.
we already have one condescending academic on here.
A&M wouldn't be making 450M if they didn't have an athletic program, and their alumni would as disconnected as a university of Phoenix alum.

Potomac,

Didn't realize that I had belittled anyone (as I apparently always do), but apologize if I have caused offense. What I don't appreciate is our complete disregard of how horribly our peers who "stepped up" up are doing. BTW, I didn't even list Georgia State in my original post. To recap:

Georgia State (0-12)
ODU (8-4 against a predominantly FCS schedule, plus surrender game)
App State (4-8)
UMass (1-11)
Charlotte (5-6 against a predominantly D2 schedule)

Why does anyone think we will do any better when we struggle in our current division? I just don't trust fans who quit buying tickets/stop contributing because:

a. our offense is boring
b. we don't play any good home games
c. we don't share the President's vision
d. all of the above.

Teams usually do struggle through transition. Almost all do. It is better to look at a school 5 years after transitioning than 2 years or 1 year into it.
There are scholarship differences that lead to depth issues. I don't think JMU will be immune, not without a hotshot QB and a powderpuff schedule, ala odu.
Will fans whine when we win 3 or 4 games? You bet. But that's going to happen at any school in America.

(06-10-2014 03:38 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  If they actually enforced that minimum attendance rule, Idaho and a handful of other teams would be out of FBS. Idaho should be an FCS team as should another dozen or so FBS bottom feeders, yet none are begging to go back to FCS where they would just be rolling in cash from all of their savings (according to the anti-FBSers here).

I'm calling BS on that. Show me a quote where someone has said that.

Idaho FB is undoubtedly losing a ton of cash as a bastard I-A.
They would undoubtedly lose a ton of cash going back to I-AA in the Big Sky like the rest of their sports have (or if they'd never moved up).

The question is which would lose less.

(06-10-2014 07:40 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(06-10-2014 03:38 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  If they actually enforced that minimum attendance rule, Idaho and a handful of other teams would be out of FBS. Idaho should be an FCS team as should another dozen or so FBS bottom feeders, yet none are begging to go back to FCS where they would just be rolling in cash from all of their savings (according to the anti-FBSers here).

I'm calling BS on that. Show me a quote where someone has said that.

Idaho FB is undoubtedly losing a ton of cash as a bastard I-A.
They would undoubtedly lose a ton of cash going back to I-AA in the Big Sky like the rest of their sports have (or if they'd never moved up).

The question is which would lose less.

Obviously I was speaking in jest, but Idaho (and EMU, FIU, FAU etc. etc.) has to figure they'd lose more by moving down for football than staying where they currently are. Maybe none of those schools want to take the publicity hit, but if the situation was so dire for them and they were bleeding so badly, we would've seen at least one or two teams move down.