Memphis Business Journal

Interesting. Looks like the Carlise group is selling a certain percentage of their Wendy's restaurants to possibly help fund One Beale.

(06-09-2014 09:23 AM)bobby jo Wrote:  If the Raymond James corp. is looking for more office space they should look into a renovated 100 n. main building. It is much closer to the MK tower.

The city should then work with Carlisle and combine the One Beale tower as part of a new convention center. It would add practicality to a new signature tower for the city and it would be a money maker for the whole area.

Has there been speculation within commercial real estate circles that they are looking?

(06-08-2014 09:21 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 02:45 PM)Mick Light Wrote:  Remember when they built the first 1 Beale and then tore it down?

No. 1 Beale was in a old renovated warehouse. Which brings up a point about the debate which city has the most magnificent skyline.

That pic of Nashville looks plastic. Kind of like most of the country music that comes out of that city.

There is no comparison of downtowns when you look at the total amount and quality of restored 19th century buildings in Memphis.

The FEF is so far advanced as compared to the Bridgestone Arena it's ridiculous.

If the NHL team goes on strike as they did just a few years ago or God forbid the league folds then the whole state of Tennessee is on the hook to pay the mortgage of that dump.

Not so with the FEF.

The only place in Nashville where there are sidewalks is downtown.

I actually like Nashville but it is true that Memphis never gets back a fair return for all the taxes generated from Shelby County.

Nashville is also in the top 20 of crime in the USA every year.

I could be wrong, but I have inferred from media coverage of the three major league stadiums, that the Forum is the most responsible project of the three, especially toward taxpayers?

(06-08-2014 02:25 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yeah, I much prefer Memphis to either one of those...I didn't enjoy Little Rock or Nashville's downtown, at all...I like buildings with history.

I much prefer the sterick building to that expensive batman looking thing in Nashville.

Agreed. And Nashville does not have the Mighty Mississippi on its doorstep. Our river view from the bluffs cannot be matched, esp. when you add in the soul, history, and hospitality of this region.

Little Rock is the most boring place to be on a weekend.

I'd like to have both, like Philly. I keep bringing it up, but the Trinity would have added some great, modern diversity to our skyline.

Maybe One Beale can borrow from that design, as well as add some ornamentation that few of the newer buildings have. I think only the Morgan Keegan building is a recent building with a spire or crown. 100 North Main has something but that's from the 60s. The others are older than that.

(06-09-2014 11:55 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The old Peabody Place would make a nice, privately owned, convention center connected to the Peabody...that could be a good use.

Cook Convention Center just needs some TLC (renovation)

Can we think of a way to disrupt the status quo convention center facility? I think it should be a pseudo-laboratory for best practices in hospitality (which includes convention center meetings). Maybe the downtown arm of the Wilson School of Hospitality? Or a Hospitality accelerator/incubator (why don't we have one??).

With Hilton, Belz, EPE, there seems to be a resurgent hospitality industry. I'd like to see a bigger role for Memphis and the citizens who have great ideas and significant experience to contribute and innovate. Hopefully that leadership can grow together, so a rising tide lifts all boats.

(06-17-2014 01:58 PM)kabluey Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 11:55 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The old Peabody Place would make a nice, privately owned, convention center connected to the Peabody...that could be a good use.

Cook Convention Center just needs some TLC (renovation)

Can we think of a way to disrupt the status quo convention center facility? I think it should be a pseudo-laboratory for best practices in hospitality (which includes convention center meetings). Maybe the downtown arm of the Wilson School of Hospitality? Or a Hospitality accelerator/incubator (why don't we have one??).

not a bad idea at all. maybe with the improving relations between U of M & local businesses/corporations, that could be feasible.

I just hope they make it the tallest building in Tennessee

(06-18-2014 04:22 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I just hope they make it the tallest building in Tennessee

http://csnbbs.com/thread-691178-post-108...id10817313

(06-18-2014 10:06 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 01:58 PM)kabluey Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 11:55 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The old Peabody Place would make a nice, privately owned, convention center connected to the Peabody...that could be a good use.

Cook Convention Center just needs some TLC (renovation)

Can we think of a way to disrupt the status quo convention center facility? I think it should be a pseudo-laboratory for best practices in hospitality (which includes convention center meetings). Maybe the downtown arm of the Wilson School of Hospitality? Or a Hospitality accelerator/incubator (why don't we have one??).

not a bad idea at all. maybe with the improving relations between U of M & local businesses/corporations, that could be feasible.

Plus, the law school is already downtown, and Hilton has greenlit a Garden Inn and Suites at the old Greyhound land (along with a Holiday Inn Select) with an eye toward bringing franchisees to town to showcase and learn. I think they do the same thing with the Hampton Inn near Beale, which IRRC is one of their flagships in the chain.

The CVB, Chamber of Commerce, as well as Start.co et al would have a vested interest in the success of innovative hospitality industry in downtown Memphis.

The only obstacle I see is that it is a private property right now; how does a not-for-profit educational purpose fit from legal and tax perspectives. But those things can be worked around with the right agreements, if it is beneficial.

(06-18-2014 04:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 04:22 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I just hope they make it the tallest building in Tennessee

http://csnbbs.com/thread-691178-post-108...id10817313

Crowns and spires.

Plus, that link does not define what a "true skyscraper" is. I mean, I think there are buildings that are 20 and 30 stories tall already there. So those aren't out of the question. And are considered by all American cities except perhaps NYC and Chicago as "true" skyscrapers...

(06-08-2014 12:35 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:22 PM)downsouth Wrote:  Some major butt hurt in this thread.

Native Memphians have an inferiority complex/mental midget outlook on so many things it's sad.

Some people hate seeing wonderful old buildings torn down for no good reason...I'm glad projects like Crosstown and untapped are happening.

That's got nothing to do with it. My career is in the architecture/planning/historic preservation industry. I'm all for the preservation of historic properties and the preservation of the integrity of historic districts.

The constant "eff Nashville because they have the Titans, have better schools, better public transit, lower crime rate, lower poverty rate, is actually growing, etc." is getting old and is exactly what I'm referring to.

you just hit the Memphis inferiority complex directly on the head.

Memphis could learn a lot from Nashville if it weren't full of a bunch of crybabies.

(06-19-2014 10:47 AM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:35 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:22 PM)downsouth Wrote:  Some major butt hurt in this thread.

Native Memphians have an inferiority complex/mental midget outlook on so many things it's sad.

Some people hate seeing wonderful old buildings torn down for no good reason...I'm glad projects like Crosstown and untapped are happening.

That's got nothing to do with it. My career is in the architecture/planning/historic preservation industry. I'm all for the preservation of historic properties and the preservation of the integrity of historic districts.

The constant "eff Nashville because they have the Titans, have better schools, better public transit, lower crime rate, lower poverty rate, is actually growing, etc." is getting old and is exactly what I'm referring to.

you just hit the Memphis inferiority complex directly on the head.

Memphis could learn a lot from Nashville if it weren't full of a bunch of crybabies.

It's easy to have nice things when you control the purse strings...

Moreover, I love how you discount the simple fact I don't like Nashville, and wouldn't be happy living there.

If I was going to move right now it would be our cabin at horseshoe lake, AR...safe, quiet, calm...

Compare Nashville to Memphis, people say wow! Much better city. Compare Nashville to Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, DC, Philly, NYC, Chicago, Phoenix, Denver, San diego, San Fran, LA, Seattle & Nashville looks well, average. It's all about perspective. Nashville suck just a little less than Memphis. Like I said before, Nashville builds one Batman tower 20 years ago and from hearing their citizens talk you would think they were effing Dubai. It's a joke. Shut up Nashville.

(06-19-2014 10:47 AM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:35 PM)downsouth Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:22 PM)downsouth Wrote:  Some major butt hurt in this thread.

Native Memphians have an inferiority complex/mental midget outlook on so many things it's sad.

Some people hate seeing wonderful old buildings torn down for no good reason...I'm glad projects like Crosstown and untapped are happening.

That's got nothing to do with it. My career is in the architecture/planning/historic preservation industry. I'm all for the preservation of historic properties and the preservation of the integrity of historic districts.

The constant "eff Nashville because they have the Titans, have better schools, better public transit, lower crime rate, lower poverty rate, is actually growing, etc." is getting old and is exactly what I'm referring to.

you just hit the Memphis inferiority complex directly on the head.

Memphis could learn a lot from Nashville if it weren't full of a bunch of crybabies.

You're wrong on this one and so is he - I like Nashville. I like (most) nashville folks.

I don't like Nashville people that have a racist, negative, or "why don't you move" comment when I tell them I live in memphis. It happens monthly.

Lots of folks from small towns, ex-memphians, and non-nashville-natives who seem to think they're better than everyone else because they moved to a zip code in or around Nashville. It's worse than any other city I've been to and I've been to a lot of cities in the US, Canada, and around the world. If I could go to Nashville one time without hearing about how memphis sucks, I'd be a happy camper.

There's even a name for it - Nasholes.

^Don't lead these people astray, I've gotten that from people all over.

Like I said earlier you can get the "oh my gosh" or "so dangerous" or "so much *insert whatever you want* there" anywhere 10 minutes east of where you currently are in Memphis.

(06-19-2014 01:25 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Compare Nashville to Memphis, people say wow! Much better city. Compare Nashville to Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, DC, Philly, NYC, Chicago, Phoenix, Denver, San diego, San Fran, LA, Seattle & Nashville looks well, average. It's all about perspective. Nashville suck just a little less than Memphis. Like I said before, Nashville builds one Batman tower 20 years ago and from hearing their citizens talk you would think they were effing Dubai. It's a joke. Shut up Nashville.

That is what you all are upset about, right?

Most people have a realistic perspective.

I've never heard that from anyone, however, Nashville currently has 8 or so high rise buildings either proposed or under construction right now.

(06-19-2014 08:12 PM)downsouth Wrote:  ^Don't lead these people astray, I've gotten that from people all over.

Like I said earlier you can get the "oh my gosh" or "so dangerous" or "so much *insert whatever you want* there" anywhere 10 minutes east of where you currently are in Memphis.

(06-19-2014 01:25 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Compare Nashville to Memphis, people say wow! Much better city. Compare Nashville to Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, DC, Philly, NYC, Chicago, Phoenix, Denver, San diego, San Fran, LA, Seattle & Nashville looks well, average. It's all about perspective. Nashville suck just a little less than Memphis. Like I said before, Nashville builds one Batman tower 20 years ago and from hearing their citizens talk you would think they were effing Dubai. It's a joke. Shut up Nashville.

That is what you all are upset about, right?

Most people have a realistic perspective.

I've never heard that from anyone, however, Nashville currently has 8 or so high rise buildings either proposed or under construction right now.

I lived in nashville for 8 years. I know all about these "Proposed" projects. Like say, "the signature tower." I tell you what, when Nashville has a skyline that looks like one of these i'll start to worry about them being a world class city.

Atlanta

Miami

Charlotte

Philly

pitt

BigD

Houston

Austin (Catching an passing everyone)

I'll stop there. Not to even mention Boston, Chicago, LA, Phoenix, Denver, Seattle...etc.

City rankings according to number of fortune 500 companies:

New York 84
San Francisco 31
Chicago 29
Houston 24
Los Angeles 21
Dallas 19
Washington DC 18
Minneapolis 17
Atlanta 15
Boston 14
Detroit 13
Denver 10
Philadelphia 10
Cincinnati 9
Pittsburgh 9
St Louis 9
Charlotte 8
Seattle 8
Cleveland 7
Milwaukee 7
Phoenix 6
Richmond 6
Columbus 5
Hartford 5
Omaha 5
San Antonio 5
Toledo 5
Las Vegas 4
Miami 4
Nashville 4 Oops, not so great
Virginia Beach 4
Fayetteville 3
Greensboro 3
Indianapolis 3
Kansas City 3
Louisville 3
Memphis 3

2013 Crime Rankings
Nashville #19 with 1,181 violent crimes per 100,000 people. The city also reported 60.9 forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

Memphis #5 with Memphis reported 1,584 violent crimes per 100,000 people. The city also reported 61 forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

Oops, Nashville not so great....

the sad thing is Nashville puffs themselves up by comparing themselves to Memphis, an in state rival city that was the largest city for decades. Well, congratulations. you finally did it! But guess what, the rest of the world doesn't care! And you still struggle with crime, education, bad streets, urban sprawl, etc. all this while the leaders of Tennessee have purposely steered jobs away from with companies the likes of Amazon. I'm sorry. Nashville just sucks less. It ain't that great. I've lived there and didn't stay. and the people there have bad B.O. as well.

nice pics

I knew Austin TX has been growing significantly, but not like that

(06-19-2014 08:12 PM)downsouth Wrote:  ^Don't lead these people astray, I've gotten that from people all over.

Like I said earlier you can get the "oh my gosh" or "so dangerous" or "so much *insert whatever you want* there" anywhere 10 minutes east of where you currently are in Memphis.

(06-19-2014 01:25 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Compare Nashville to Memphis, people say wow! Much better city. Compare Nashville to Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, DC, Philly, NYC, Chicago, Phoenix, Denver, San diego, San Fran, LA, Seattle & Nashville looks well, average. It's all about perspective. Nashville suck just a little less than Memphis. Like I said before, Nashville builds one Batman tower 20 years ago and from hearing their citizens talk you would think they were effing Dubai. It's a joke. Shut up Nashville.

That is what you all are upset about, right?

Most people have a realistic perspective.

I've never heard that from anyone, however, Nashville currently has 8 or so high rise buildings either proposed or under construction right now.

"All over."

As in "all over" middle TN?

Please.

You should hear people in Germany when they talk about Memphis. Or Vancouver. Or Scotland. Or Watford, UK. Or anywhere that doesn't have the "but Memphis is where the blacks live" mentality.

(06-20-2014 07:22 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  nice pics

I knew Austin TX has been growing significantly, but not like that

Just got back from there (brother works for Google they have a large presence in Austin) and it has grown exponentially since the last time I've been there. They are running out of space and gentrification is a huge issue there.

Memphis is a GREAT city...


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