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Obama about to use executive order on EPA climate change rules
Estimated cost for Americans = 1 trillion

Estimated drop in carbon emission = 1.2%

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/27/epa-to...emissions/

BTW, expect your electric bill to rise 45%
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/us/pol....html?_r=0

People familiar with the rule say that it will set a national limit on carbon pollution from coal plants, but that it will allow each state to come up with its own plan to cut emissions based on a menu of options that include adding wind and solar power, energy-efficiency technology and creating or joining state cap-and-trade programs. Cap-and-trade programs are effectively carbon taxes that place a limit on carbon pollution and create markets for buying and selling government-issued pollution permits.

Cutting carbon emissions by 20 percent — a substantial amount — would be the most important step in the administration’s pledged goal to reduce pollution over the next six years and could eventually shut down hundreds of coal-fired power plants across the country.
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So libs. What happens to our power bills when "hundreds" of power plants are shut down?
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All-of-the-above.
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(05-31-2014 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/us/pol....html?_r=0

People familiar with the rule say that it will set a national limit on carbon pollution from coal plants, but that it will allow each state to come up with its own plan to cut emissions based on a menu of options that include adding wind and solar power, energy-efficiency technology and creating or joining state cap-and-trade programs. Cap-and-trade programs are effectively carbon taxes that place a limit on carbon pollution and create markets for buying and selling government-issued pollution permits.

Cutting carbon emissions by 20 percent — a substantial amount — would be the most important step in the administration’s pledged goal to reduce pollution over the next six years and could eventually shut down hundreds of coal-fired power plants across the country.
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So libs. What happens to our power bills when "hundreds" of power plants are shut down?

Libs actually want our power bills to go up so that cuts consumption. No different than Obama wanting gas up over $5 a gallon for the same reason. It's a backdoor means to an end.
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I have a question. Where do we get the power to charge all the electric cars we want to add?
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(05-31-2014 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I have a question. Where do we get the power to charge all the electric cars we want to add?

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(05-31-2014 11:36 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Libs actually want our power bills to go up so that cuts consumption. No different than Obama wanting gas up over $5 a gallon for the same reason. It's a backdoor means to an end.

The left's war on the poverty.
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he has more "flexibility" after his last election.
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Zero failed to pass cap and trade, so he gives us the cap part through a FIAT.
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(05-31-2014 01:58 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Zero failed to pass cap and trade, so he gives us the cap part through a FIAT.

it's all part of his "comprehensive democracy reform". democracy is all part of a broken system, and he will use his pen and his phone to fix it.
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(05-31-2014 01:58 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Zero failed to pass cap and trade, so he gives us the cap part through a FIAT.



Was going to post basically the same thing.

So zerO can't get his sop scheme to the radical environmentalists, even his own party wouldn't go along, through the Congress so he's going to do it on his own. Legislative process be damned.

All hail the King!

So, all you young 'uns struggling to find that first real job, or living 4 to a house to make the tips and hourly wage stretch a bit further; how's this work for you?

Estimates that your power bill will climb as much as 45%? Guess what? So will EVERYTHING else! Everything we produce takes energy, so the prices will need to be passed along. Not to mention this further handicapping the U.S. economy and driving the necessity for, MACH? further reliance on cheap imported goods!

So, good deal. As if sliding from the worst economic recovery in Modern US History into what may be another recession, the first double dip recession in my recollection, weren't bad enough, this guy who's never run so much as a hot dog stand is doubling down on stupid.

zerOcare has and will cost the first millions of jobs, this promises to do further permanent damage, . ALL HAIL THE CHIEF!!!
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Where's Mach on this? Coal jobs (you know, REAL union jobs, not like an old lady restocking the library shelf) being hacked? By the liar in chief? This is okay?

This must be very disappointing. Esp to the true believers. Very disappointing.

Soon. Very soon.
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All these young and dumb idiots voting for Obama because he is black. They will do the same with Hillary because she is a woman.
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(06-01-2014 08:06 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  All these young and dumb idiots voting for Obama because he is black. They will do the same with Hillary because she is a woman.

how you gonna stop them?

that's a relevant comparison....blackies and wimmenz.....lmfao

are you really this fkn stupid.....seriously????

it's pathetic how reactionary you are.....
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President Obama will use his executive authority to cut carbon emissions from the nation’s coal-fired power plants by up to 20 percent, according to people familiar with his plans, which will spur the creation of a state cap-and-trade program forcing industry to pay for the carbon pollution it creates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/us/pol....html?_r=1

Now why would the industries have to fold to this. Surly they could tie it up in some court for at least two years.
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Carbon dioxide is currently .04% of our atmosphere and Obama wants to destroy the economy in order to bring that number down to .039%. Meanwhile China keeps chugging along. Just goes to show you how stupid the smartest man in the room is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_diox...tmosphere9
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What a scam. America never fell for it, King Obama forces us to accept it.
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