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(05-29-2014 07:20 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
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(05-29-2014 05:32 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  In all honesty, it shouldn't be discouraged. Why are Jews beyond reproach? Talking about the Holocaust is always a proxy for talking about Jews in some way or another. The left has the black community to grapple on to and use as a battering ram to paint people in a negative light. The right has Jews but at least the blacks vote for the Dems given their patronage.

I would not mind so much if there was honesty in this "approach" to education... But lets see them discuss the merits of a strong African Americans Family in the Jim Crow south versus broken communities in the free north.. Or how killing nearly every other African American child in the womb has allowed AA's to lose more and more of their electoral power..

I'd be happy to address this if it ever came up, but I don't know how comfortable I would be in an open setting doing this.

Thats my point... When someone questions the holocaust or "resolve America is evil" the lefties run in telling us what a wonderful thought exercise it is..

When an old guy with a beard sayd the blacks in rural LA had intact families in the 1960s and were in some ways better off than today he is called a racist and they try to run him off the air..

If they cant eat their own dog food then they should shut the hell up when others question the smell..

To me it's perfectly fine if a person said that in a magazine, the news, or one on one with me. It's when it's in a location like a classroom that it becomes problematic. You probably can't relate, but there are very few things worse than being heavily outweighed in that kind of discourse.
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RE: Temple University Calls Prof Questioning The Holocaust A “Vigorous Exchange Of Ideas"
Having lost relatives in the Holocaust I'd knock a ****** out if he uttered stupidity I'm front of my face.



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(05-29-2014 07:28 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 07:20 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 07:16 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 07:11 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 05:32 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  In all honesty, it shouldn't be discouraged. Why are Jews beyond reproach? Talking about the Holocaust is always a proxy for talking about Jews in some way or another. The left has the black community to grapple on to and use as a battering ram to paint people in a negative light. The right has Jews but at least the blacks vote for the Dems given their patronage.

I would not mind so much if there was honesty in this "approach" to education... But lets see them discuss the merits of a strong African Americans Family in the Jim Crow south versus broken communities in the free north.. Or how killing nearly every other African American child in the womb has allowed AA's to lose more and more of their electoral power..

I'd be happy to address this if it ever came up, but I don't know how comfortable I would be in an open setting doing this.

Thats my point... When someone questions the holocaust or "resolve America is evil" the lefties run in telling us what a wonderful thought exercise it is..

When an old guy with a beard sayd the blacks in rural LA had intact families in the 1960s and were in some ways better off than today he is called a racist and they try to run him off the air..

If they cant eat their own dog food then they should shut the hell up when others question the smell..

To me it's perfectly fine if a person said that in a magazine, the news, or one on one with me. It's when it's in a location like a classroom that it becomes problematic. You probably can't relate, but there are very few things worse than being heavily outweighed in that kind of discourse.

Ummm Conservative guy who lived on campus with a bunch of granola munching liberals.... To say nothing of the "Puritan Literature" course I took where a grad student did nothing but rail those evil woman hating conservatives..

Yea I do get that..

All I am saying is what's good for the goose it good for the gander. If talking about how the slaughter of millions of jews is a good "thought exercise" so are other offensive discussions.
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RE: Temple University Calls Prof Questioning The Holocaust A “Vigorous Exchange Of Ideas"
This is now just weird:

Holocaust denier- intellectual exchange

CAGW skeptic- should be blown up or at least jailed.
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(05-30-2014 08:07 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  This is now just weird:

Holocaust denier- intellectual exchange

CAGW skeptic- should be blown up or at least jailed.

Of course you're right and the liberals show daily why they are ideologically cowards and hypocrites, but would you rather be like Europe where you can be jailed for denying the holocaust?

Someone who denies the holocaust should be ridiculed mercilessly.
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(05-30-2014 08:13 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(05-30-2014 08:07 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  This is now just weird:

Holocaust denier- intellectual exchange

CAGW skeptic- should be blown up or at least jailed.

Of course you're right and the liberals show daily why they are ideologically cowards and hypocrites, but would you rather be like Europe where you can be jailed for denying the holocaust?

Absolutely not.

I actually think the Temple guy is right, that it's fair to question any historical event...provided you're willing to accept sound answers.

But I think you understood my point, the contrast between the two positions from leftists, is very weird.
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(05-29-2014 07:13 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
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(05-29-2014 07:00 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
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(05-29-2014 06:57 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Jews don't complain? The phrase "oy vey" (woe is me) didn't come from a bunch of content people.

as much....

They don't have to. They own/manage almost everything.


Probably through hard work. Tsk, tsk, those darn Jews.

And nepotism.

No problem with it, they've done better than everybody else. They're the only real "community" in this country (Talking Ashkenazi).

Mormons are giving it a run. But your point is well taken.
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(05-29-2014 05:29 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  [Image: 20kc1ad.jpg]

The idiocy of the leftist institutions of academia is just amazing. Keep digging Temple. The left seems to have followed Obama's hatred of the Jewish people.

Please dont act like they speak for all of us. I know there are many of us Jews from Temple who are not exactly happy with this situation. Unfortunately, we have a lot of Rutgers adjunct trash teaching here.

(05-29-2014 05:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  The Jews vote Dem.

Not all of us. Plenty of prominent Jews vote Republican.
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(05-31-2014 12:35 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 05:29 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  [Image: 20kc1ad.jpg]

The idiocy of the leftist institutions of academia is just amazing. Keep digging Temple. The left seems to have followed Obama's hatred of the Jewish people.

Please dont act like they speak for all of us. I know there are many of us Jews from Temple who are not exactly happy with this situation. Unfortunately, we have a lot of Rutgers adjunct trash teaching here.

(05-29-2014 05:44 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  The Jews vote Dem.

Not all of us. Plenty of prominent Jews vote Republican.

If you consider 20% of Jews plenty. As a block Jews vote Dem.
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And I dont.
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I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.
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(06-01-2014 08:05 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.

I wouldn't advocate going to the guys house. That's what wacko environmentalist and lefties do.
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(06-01-2014 08:05 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.

I wouldn't advocate going to the guys house. That's what wacko environmentalist and lefties do.

Soooo...Jews. I kid, I kid.
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(06-01-2014 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 08:05 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.

I wouldn't advocate going to the guys house. That's what wacko environmentalist and lefties do.

Notice I said peaceful.

The environmental wackos get pretty nasty, and have shown great cowardice with their masks.

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(05-29-2014 05:32 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  In all honesty, it shouldn't be discouraged. Why are Jews beyond reproach? Talking about the Holocaust is always a proxy for talking about Jews in some way or another. The left has the black community to grapple on to and use as a battering ram to paint people in a negative light. The right has Jews but at least the blacks vote for the Dems given their patronage.

A) The Republicans do not "have" the Jewish vote. Want to talk a demographic that votes blue, no matter what? It's the Jewish voters. GO back and look at the "J-Street" PAC and come back and tell me that Republicans have the Jewish vote locked in. It's not even close to being true.

B) Yes it should be discouraged. "Let's just talk as though the holocaust didn't happen"? Can you imagine the outrage if we talked "as if slavery didn't happen"? Holy crap, the NAACP would go ballistic! So people are upset that the Jews take this kind of statement and have a massive problem with it?

I wasn't aware of the fact you put up there VA.. I'd be curious to know if it were true or not though.
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If you read my comment again you'll see how I pointed out that unlike blacks who vote for their political protector Jews do not vote for theirs.
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(06-01-2014 11:45 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 08:05 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.

I wouldn't advocate going to the guys house. That's what wacko environmentalist and lefties do.

Notice I said peaceful.

The environmental wackos get pretty nasty, and have shown great cowardice with their masks.

Wacko Central

I noticed that, but still wouldn't go to anyone's private residence. Maybe that's just me though.
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(06-02-2014 08:59 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 11:45 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 08:05 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.

I wouldn't advocate going to the guys house. That's what wacko environmentalist and lefties do.

Notice I said peaceful.

The environmental wackos get pretty nasty, and have shown great cowardice with their masks.

Wacko Central

I noticed that, but still wouldn't go to anyone's private residence. Maybe that's just me though.

You're correct. The right shouldn't wallow in the mud like the libs. So let's head over to the professor's campus office and see how welcome the university is to our peaceful protest.
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(06-02-2014 09:24 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(06-02-2014 08:59 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 11:45 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-01-2014 08:05 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I have an idea. It is probably pretty easy to find this guy's home. Get a small group of Jewish students from the university, to set up a candle light vigil around his house. Have them carry posters with photos of the holocaust victims. No chanting or loud noise. Just peaceful protest.

I wouldn't advocate going to the guys house. That's what wacko environmentalist and lefties do.

Notice I said peaceful.

The environmental wackos get pretty nasty, and have shown great cowardice with their masks.

Wacko Central

I noticed that, but still wouldn't go to anyone's private residence. Maybe that's just me though.

You're correct. The right shouldn't wallow in the mud like the libs. So let's head over to the professor's campus office and see how welcome the university is to our peaceful protest.

Make sure you stay in the "Free Speech Zone" because, as you know, the 1st Amendment only applies to 20x20 parcels of land on college campuses.
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