(05-30-2014 09:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know.

No, you don't... You know Gays that are wonderful people that call themselves Christians and you know straights who call themselves Christians who may not be..

but to be an unrepentant sinner and a Christian? how does that work?

I'll let them take it up with God, same as I do you.

(05-30-2014 09:52 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  *sigh*

One more time, we really need to stop pigeon holing people.

I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know. I know at least one gay American pickup-driving gun owner.

Just because you know ONE thing about another person, quit assuming every other damn thing about a person.

I spy with my little eye...........................

















..................a contradiction!

Really? 'splain it to me.

The "Gay Bloc" is coming to a close....

Quote:The Coming Gay Republican Wave


....Of course, most conservatives are now on the wrong side of history when it comes to marriage equality. And, for this reason alone, large numbers of gay Americans (between 75 and 80 percent) are reliable Democratic voters. Although former Vice President Dick Cheney has supported marriage equality for longer than President Obama and Republican-appointed Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote a rather ringing defense of it, the four Justices most beloved to conservatives sadly sided against marriage. While overwhelming majorities of Democrats in Congress now support marriage equality, likewise, fewer than 10 Congressional Republicans have said they do in public.

But, as equal marriage becomes far more widespread and public opinion changes (80 percent of those under 30 support same-sex marriage now) the issue will diminish in significance. And once that happens, it'll be easy to predict that about half of gay Americans will vote for conservative candidates....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eli-lehrer...12857.html

(05-30-2014 09:55 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:52 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  *sigh*

One more time, we really need to stop pigeon holing people.

I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know. I know at least one gay American pickup-driving gun owner.

Just because you know ONE thing about another person, quit assuming every other damn thing about a person.

I spy with my little eye...........................

















..................a contradiction!

Really? 'splain it to me.

You know ONE gay guy with a gun and pickup truck. But just because WE know one thing about a person, we have to quit assuming every other damn thing about a person, all while you know one thing about a person.

I don't know, Smaug, you just confuse me sometimes. You get upset when someone doesn't support gay marriage, then you get pissed at another for wanting to piss in the same bathroom that your daughter may be in. Sure it's a different scenario and circumstance, but it's all thrown in your face the same. And only one is wrong.

(05-30-2014 10:02 AM)supertiger Wrote:  The "Gay Bloc" is coming to a close....

Quote:The Coming Gay Republican Wave


....Of course, most conservatives are now on the wrong side of history when it comes to marriage equality. And, for this reason alone, large numbers of gay Americans (between 75 and 80 percent) are reliable Democratic voters. Although former Vice President Dick Cheney has supported marriage equality for longer than President Obama and Republican-appointed Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote a rather ringing defense of it, the four Justices most beloved to conservatives sadly sided against marriage. While overwhelming majorities of Democrats in Congress now support marriage equality, likewise, fewer than 10 Congressional Republicans have said they do in public.

But, as equal marriage becomes far more widespread and public opinion changes (80 percent of those under 30 support same-sex marriage now) the issue will diminish in significance. And once that happens, it'll be easy to predict that about half of gay Americans will vote for conservative candidates....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eli-lehrer...12857.html

It's funny how the percentage of queer marriage supporting Americans changes daily. Every site is different.

(05-30-2014 10:08 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:55 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:52 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  *sigh*

One more time, we really need to stop pigeon holing people.

I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know. I know at least one gay American pickup-driving gun owner.

Just because you know ONE thing about another person, quit assuming every other damn thing about a person.

I spy with my little eye...........................

















..................a contradiction!

Really? 'splain it to me.

You know ONE gay guy with a gun and pickup truck. But just because WE know one thing about a person, we have to quit assuming every other damn thing about a person, all while you know one thing about a person.

I don't know, Smaug, you just confuse me sometimes. You get upset when someone doesn't support gay marriage, then you get pissed at another for wanting to piss in the same bathroom that your daughter may be in. Sure it's a different scenario and circumstance, but it's all thrown in your face the same. And only one is wrong.

Um, I believe I listed THREE things I knew about the guy, two of which would contradict the third if you had a narrow world view.

Pssst. Here's a fourth. He's a George Strait fan.

(05-30-2014 10:14 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 10:08 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:55 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:52 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  *sigh*

One more time, we really need to stop pigeon holing people.

I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know. I know at least one gay American pickup-driving gun owner.

Just because you know ONE thing about another person, quit assuming every other damn thing about a person.

I spy with my little eye...........................

















..................a contradiction!

Really? 'splain it to me.

You know ONE gay guy with a gun and pickup truck. But just because WE know one thing about a person, we have to quit assuming every other damn thing about a person, all while you know one thing about a person.

I don't know, Smaug, you just confuse me sometimes. You get upset when someone doesn't support gay marriage, then you get pissed at another for wanting to piss in the same bathroom that your daughter may be in. Sure it's a different scenario and circumstance, but it's all thrown in your face the same. And only one is wrong.

Um, I believe I listed THREE things I knew about the guy, two of which would contradict the third if you had a narrow world view.

Pssst. Here's a fourth. He's a George Strait fan.

Sounds just like my gay uncle, big deal. He keeps his sexuality to himself, doesn't do anything in public, doesn't care about gays being married, thinks they're all titbags for crying about it constantly, drives a Dodge Mega Cab 4x4 and tends to 5,000 acres and his own business. He says he would be more supportive of gay marriage but they biitch and moan too much, and through law you can still have a lawyer write you a contract as to who gets your benefits, etc. And he's a country fan too, still doesn't excuse all the other shitbiscuits out there that think they've got it so damn bad.


Edit: He lives in Texas too, and calls over a trick now and then when he wants one, he's probably laid the pipe to Tom a few times.

Congratulations. You just illustrated my point better than I did.

(05-30-2014 10:21 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Congratulations. You just illustrated my point better than I did.

So what's your reasoning for hating people that don't support gay marriage?

(05-30-2014 10:25 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 10:21 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Congratulations. You just illustrated my point better than I did.

So what's your reasoning for hating people that don't support gay marriage?

I don't hate anyone.

(05-30-2014 10:30 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 10:25 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 10:21 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Congratulations. You just illustrated my point better than I did.

So what's your reasoning for hating people that don't support gay marriage?

I don't hate anyone.

Ok

(05-30-2014 09:55 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know.

No, you don't... You know Gays that are wonderful people that call themselves Christians and you know straights who call themselves Christians who may not be..

but to be an unrepentant sinner and a Christian? how does that work?

I'll let them take it up with God, same as I do you.

Knowing an unrepentant homosexual who is a "christian" is like knowing an unrepentant adulterer who is a "christian"...

(05-30-2014 11:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:55 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know.

No, you don't... You know Gays that are wonderful people that call themselves Christians and you know straights who call themselves Christians who may not be..

but to be an unrepentant sinner and a Christian? how does that work?

I'll let them take it up with God, same as I do you.

Knowing an unrepentant homosexual who is a "christian" is like knowing an unrepentant adulterer who is a "christian"...

I'll let them take it up with God, same as I do you.

(05-30-2014 11:22 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 11:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:55 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I know gays who are better Christians than a lot of straights I know.

No, you don't... You know Gays that are wonderful people that call themselves Christians and you know straights who call themselves Christians who may not be..

but to be an unrepentant sinner and a Christian? how does that work?

I'll let them take it up with God, same as I do you.

Knowing an unrepentant homosexual who is a "christian" is like knowing an unrepentant adulterer who is a "christian"...

I'll let them take it up with God, same as I do you.

Can a Muslim be a good christian? A Jew? An Atheist?

Im starting to think you don't know what "Christian" means..

So, would you rather live next door to a liar or a murderer?

(05-30-2014 09:23 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 05:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Please don't ask me why I'm a Democrat. Or any Gay man why they reflexively vote for people like Sheila Jackson Lee.

Because

Gay people aren't welcome in the Republican Party of Texas. Regardless of how conservative they are.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lo...-texas-gop

There is no place in the Texas GOP for any group that doesn't advocate discrimination towards Gay persons.

This isn't the first time the Texas GOP has done this either.

When Gay people are welcome in the GOP, then you can question why Gay people reflexively vote for Democrats.

Gay people are welcome in the Gop Party. All they did was ban them from setting up a booth. While i think it is stupid of the GOP to do this, your statement of "Gays not Welcome at all" is misleading.

No, they aren't welcome. The Texas GOP and LCR have been fighting for 16 years on this. The rules are put in place to single them out.

Don't ask why Gays wont' vote for the GOP if they aren't willing to provide equal access to Gays that actually want to support them.

(05-30-2014 11:28 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Im starting to think you don't know what "Christian" means..

Lucky for me you're not the one who gets to decide.

(05-30-2014 09:10 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Yay I have my own personal fantroll. Keep it up Torch. So flattered :) To know you're an adult man makes it a little creepier... but I can roll with that!

Look, face it. The sight of gay sex, kissing, affection etc is disturbing to many human beings. Even kids who have not been taught prejudices are off put by the sight of it. Why? Because it is not a normal sexual response. It is disorder, just like many other "not normal" anomalies in life.

(05-30-2014 11:29 AM)Smaug Wrote:  So, would you rather live next door to a liar or a murderer?

Note... I never said they were bad people, I was quite explicit about that...

I merely said (1) non Christians can be good people and (2) unrepentant sinners can't be Christians.

My kids Doc is gay, he is a very nice guy, a great doc, and someone I trust my my kids health. That being said.... Not a christian.

(05-30-2014 11:35 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 09:10 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Yay I have my own personal fantroll. Keep it up Torch. So flattered :) To know you're an adult man makes it a little creepier... but I can roll with that!

Look, face it. The sight of gay sex, kissing, affection etc is disturbing to many human beings. Even kids who have not been taught prejudices are off put by the sight of it. Why? Because it is not a normal sexual response. It is disorder, just like many other "not normal" anomalies in life.

Once my kids learned what gay meant, they began to call each other gay when they'd get into a fight. It's sad that I have to warn them not to call someone at school "gay." BTW, they think two boys or two girls kissing is disgusting, but giggle and blush when they see a boy and girl kiss on television. That's your normal response.