FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).

Only FSU and UVA have won an ACC title every year since 2004.

Only FSU won a title in Football, Men's Basketball and Baseball. Only 4 major conference schools nationally did that (LSU, OSU, UF).

FSU has won an ACC title every year it's been a member of the ACC.

FSU won titles in 15 of the ACC’s 25 sports (FSU sponsors 19). UVA was next with 14, followed by UNC’s 13, Duke’s 11 and VT’s 10.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Now for for highlights of an article from your favorite ACC writer:

Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Now for for highlights of an article from your favorite ACC writer:

Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

They won the regular season in wrestling but VT won the ACC tournament. However, I think the ACC only counts the tournament champions.

(05-28-2014 03:08 AM)IberianPanther Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Now for for highlights of an article from your favorite ACC writer:

Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

They won the regular season in wrestling but VT won the ACC tournament. However, I think the ACC only counts the tournament champions.

OK. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm sure We'll win something, Even if it's LaCrosse. .................I Kid, LAX fans.

(05-28-2014 07:47 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I'm sure We'll win something, Even if it's LaCrosse. .................I Kid, LAX fans.

Louisville should win equestrian. Too bad the ACC doesn't sponsor it.

(05-28-2014 01:35 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Now for for highlights of an article from your favorite ACC writer:

Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

Should be fun. Louisville won 58 overall championships in our eight years of Big East membership from 2005 to 2013. Additionally this year 11 AAC titles and 14 overall (two women's programs are still in the Big East).

Even more impressive is that Notre Dame won a ridiculous 76 Big East titles in that same span. The ACC has certainly added two programs that take winning across the board quite seriously. Syracuse not too shabby either. Pitt, well, we love you guys too.

BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1
* women's lacrosse league member

(05-28-2014 02:14 PM)marleycard Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 01:35 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Now for for highlights of an article from your favorite ACC writer:

Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

Should be fun. Louisville won 58 overall championships in our eight years of Big East membership from 2005 to 2013. Additionally this year 11 AAC titles and 14 overall (two women's programs are still in the Big East).

Even more impressive is that Notre Dame won a ridiculous 76 Big East titles in that same span. The ACC has certainly added two programs that take winning across the board quite seriously. Syracuse not too shabby either. Pitt, well, we love you guys too.

BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1
* women's lacrosse league member

You kind of obliterated that Cuse fan's comment right there.

With that said, every non-idiot expects UL to be competitive in most sports. I'd probably put them 6th behind FSU, UVA, Duke, UNC and ND.

The ACC Title count further exemplifies how truly worthless Wake is to the ACC.

"BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1"




Pitt really sticks out here.....and not in a good way.


I think Louisville is going to do well. They are ambitious, have an great AD (I am jealous), and have $$$$.


Pitt reminds me of much of the ACC......tons of cash and great academics.....but it just doesn't translate to success athletically and I can't figure out why (see UVA and UNC in football...both should be top 25 every year IMHO).

(05-29-2014 09:44 PM)nole Wrote:  "BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1"




Pitt really sticks out here.....and not in a good way.


I think Louisville is going to do well. They are ambitious, have an great AD (I am jealous), and have $$$$.


Pitt reminds me of much of the ACC......tons of cash and great academics.....but it just doesn't translate to success athletically and I can't figure out why (see UVA and UNC in football...both should be top 25 every year IMHO).

It really is inexplicable how bad Pitt sports are across the board every year but Pederson still gets contract extensions. Men's basketball and wrestling are about the only good teams.

(05-28-2014 08:16 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 02:14 PM)marleycard Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 01:35 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU won more ACC titles this year than Clemson, UNC, ND, Duke, Cuse, GT, Wake, BC, Pitt, Miami, and NC State combined.

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Now for for highlights of an article from your favorite ACC writer:

Since 2004 (10 seasons since the expansion to 12 teams), UVA and FSU have paced the ACC in titles with 51 and 44, respectively. Duke is 3rd at 33. UNC with just 27, only one more than the massively-in-debt Maryland (26). GT (19), VT (18) and Clemson (13) are the remaining schools to reach double-digit titles. NC State (8), Miami (7), Wake (5) and BC (1) are the runts of the league.

This year ND won 2 and Cuse won 1, so for now Pitt's the only school without an ACC title (until UL joins them).



http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...,full.post

I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

Should be fun. Louisville won 58 overall championships in our eight years of Big East membership from 2005 to 2013. Additionally this year 11 AAC titles and 14 overall (two women's programs are still in the Big East).

Even more impressive is that Notre Dame won a ridiculous 76 Big East titles in that same span. The ACC has certainly added two programs that take winning across the board quite seriously. Syracuse not too shabby either. Pitt, well, we love you guys too.

BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1
* women's lacrosse league member

You kind of obliterated that Cuse fan's comment right there.

Really?

Louisville won 58 championships in the BE over 8 years averaging 7.25 championships per season. FSU has won 44 championships over 10 years in the Acc for an average of 4.4 championships per year. ND will likely dominate the Acc as they did in the BE averaging 9.5 championships per season, which is unreal, imo.

(05-29-2014 10:07 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 09:44 PM)nole Wrote:  "BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1"




Pitt really sticks out here.....and not in a good way.


I think Louisville is going to do well. They are ambitious, have an great AD (I am jealous), and have $$$$.


Pitt reminds me of much of the ACC......tons of cash and great academics.....but it just doesn't translate to success athletically and I can't figure out why (see UVA and UNC in football...both should be top 25 every year IMHO).

It really is inexplicable how bad Pitt sports are across the board every year but Pederson still gets contract extensions. Men's basketball and wrestling are about the only good teams.

It is easily explicable. Pitt doesn't have "tons of cash". Not at all. It only has 19 varsity sports (that is counting men's and women's XC, indoor T&F, and outdoor T&F as six separate sports) and only 17 of them were in the Big East (wrestling and gymnastics were not BE sports). Up until this year, only four of the 19 had the NCAA maximum allotment of scholarships. Now, 18 of 19 do, which is a dramatic improvement and that is entirely due to moving into the ACC. Outside of football, basketball, and swimming, and average facilities for a few others, most of the other sports programs' facilities had been among the worst in the nation until about 3 or four years ago. Everything outside football and men's hoops suffered decades of prior neglect which is still being felt and dealt with. Tennis and T&F still don't have facilities. Almost all of Pitt's sports have had major turnover in their coaching staffs in the era bracketed above except for men's basketball, swimming, and baseball.

Not that it matters, schools don't get invited to conferences for their olympic sports. Not that I wouldn't like Pitt to do better across the board, but it starts with football and men's basketball.

(05-29-2014 10:08 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 08:16 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 02:14 PM)marleycard Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 01:35 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I thought Pitt won something recently. I remember a Pitt fan posting it because it was their first Acc championship or something. Louisville should give FSU a run for their money when they join.

Should be fun. Louisville won 58 overall championships in our eight years of Big East membership from 2005 to 2013. Additionally this year 11 AAC titles and 14 overall (two women's programs are still in the Big East).

Even more impressive is that Notre Dame won a ridiculous 76 Big East titles in that same span. The ACC has certainly added two programs that take winning across the board quite seriously. Syracuse not too shabby either. Pitt, well, we love you guys too.

BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1
* women's lacrosse league member

You kind of obliterated that Cuse fan's comment right there.

Really?

Louisville won 58 championships in the BE over 8 years averaging 7.25 championships per season. FSU has won 44 championships over 10 years in the Acc for an average of 4.4 championships per year. ND will likely dominate the Acc as they did in the BE averaging 9.5 championships per season, which is unreal, imo.

Yes. OBLITER-FACKING-ATION!

You act like those Big East titles mean d*ck in the ACC. ND's big bad 9.5/year translated to FAR LESS this year. They sure as hell aren't going to average 10.5+/year over the next 7 to get that average back up to 9.5.

Cuse was 4th best in the Big East and registered a blip on the ACC scene. You aren't facing a bunch of low-budget non-football, private institutions anymore, Toto. UL sure as hell won't be facing a bunch of C-USA competition like they did this past year, either.

UL isn't poised to be competing for the top spot in the ACC. They are more like the 6th best overall program in the conference, like I already said.

(05-29-2014 11:16 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 10:08 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 08:16 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 02:14 PM)marleycard Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 01:35 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

Should be fun. Louisville won 58 overall championships in our eight years of Big East membership from 2005 to 2013. Additionally this year 11 AAC titles and 14 overall (two women's programs are still in the Big East).

Even more impressive is that Notre Dame won a ridiculous 76 Big East titles in that same span. The ACC has certainly added two programs that take winning across the board quite seriously. Syracuse not too shabby either. Pitt, well, we love you guys too.

BIG EAST Championships
All Sports
(2005-06 through 2012-13 season)
School Total
1. Notre Dame 76
2. LOUISVILLE 58
3. Connecticut 41
4. Syracuse 27
5. Georgetown 17
6. West Virginia 14
7. St. John's 13
8. Villanova 9
9. USF 9
10. Marquette 8
11. Cincinnati 8
12. DePaul 5
13. Rutgers 4
14. Pittsburgh 3
Providence 3
16. Loyola (Md.) * 2
17. Seton Hall 1
* women's lacrosse league member

You kind of obliterated that Cuse fan's comment right there.

Really?

Louisville won 58 championships in the BE over 8 years averaging 7.25 championships per season. FSU has won 44 championships over 10 years in the Acc for an average of 4.4 championships per year. ND will likely dominate the Acc as they did in the BE averaging 9.5 championships per season, which is unreal, imo.

Yes. OBLITER-FACKING-ATION!

You act like those Big East titles mean d*ck in the ACC. ND's big bad 9.5/year translated to FAR LESS this year. They sure as hell aren't going to average 10.5+/year over the next 7 to get that average back up to 9.5.

Cuse was 4th best in the Big East and registered a blip on the ACC scene. You aren't facing a bunch of low-budget non-football, private institutions anymore, Toto. UL sure as hell won't be facing a bunch of C-USA competition like they did this past year, either.

UL isn't poised to be competing for the top spot in the ACC. They are more like the 6th best overall program in the conference, like I already said.

Time will tell. But I believe that Louisville and especially ND will be near the top or at the top in championships when the tally is added up in the next 5 or 10 years. i dont believe the Acc was as huge a jump in competetion as you claim it to be. FB wasnt and neither was bb, which tells me that the other sports likely wont be either. But thats my opinion without any research, as I dont care enough about this subject to do any.

You can be ignorant if you want.

I agree with Marge on this one. There's a huge step up in non-revenue sports from the BE to the ACC. Especially the AAC that Louisville just left.

(05-30-2014 04:10 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I agree with Marge on this one. There's a huge step up in non-revenue sports from the BE to the ACC. Especially the AAC that Louisville just left.

To be fair, SU won one championship, but was in the conversation for at least field hockey, men's lacrosse, women's lacrosse, and men's basketball. I think that we might have been in the conversation for women 'a XC, too. We could have very easily (and realistically) won three championships this year with a little more luck. It's also worth noting that the ACC does not give out regular season championships and tourney championships, whereas the Big East did. With that in mind, we really didn't do THAT much worse in the ACC.

Don't get me wrong, though. The ACC is better and UL won't be as dominant. The same is true with ND (obviously). FSU has a really, really good athletic department. That's undeniable.

Gone from the ACC not being any better and these new schools being at the top of the ACC, to the ACC being better and the new schools not being as dominant. Hmm.

(05-30-2014 06:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Gone from the ACC not being any better and these new schools being at the top of the ACC, to the ACC being better and the new schools not being as dominant. Hmm.

Learn to read.

FROM:
"...we really didn't do THAT much worse in the ACC."

TO:
"The ACC is better and UL won't be as dominant."

I went from saying that the Syracuse didn't do "...that much worse in the ACC" to "the ACC is better...." I have no idea why you think that contradicts. The first quote means that the ACC is better but not on a different level, and the second quote reaffirms that the ACC is better and make no statement on way or the other as to how much better it is.

But since you seem interested, I'll give you my opinion. I don't think that UL will have the best athletic dept. in the ACC, nor do I think that they will do as well in the ACC as they did in the BIG EAST. I'm not even sure that UL is good enough to be the second best athletic dept. in the ACC. Regardless, though, they do field many very competitive teams and even schools like FSU will not walk over them. Furthermore, I think that they will finish higher than #6 in the conference. I would put them around #3-5/15, with ND being in the #2-4 range.