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Not surprised that Tortilla Tech would make the list of bad jobs. . . Just shocked they don't top the list. Especially, if you had to live here year round.

SMU would have been on that list two years ago. Pretty terrible list.

Actually, any job in the ACC that isn't Duke, NC, Louisville, Pitt or Syracuse. You'll always be fighting for 6th place.

(05-27-2014 03:26 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Actually, any job in the ACC that isn't Duke, NC, Louisville, Pitt or Syracuse. You'll always be fighting for 6th place.

Virginia says hi

(05-27-2014 04:28 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 03:26 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Actually, any job in the ACC that isn't Duke, NC, Louisville, Pitt or Syracuse. You'll always be fighting for 6th place.

Virginia says hi

So does Miami. Larrenega had the Canes playing pretty good last year.

(05-27-2014 02:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  SMU would have been on that list two years ago. Pretty terrible list.

ECU was also god awful for a long time. Dave Odom is the only guy I can remember that moved on to anything better.

Hopefully better times ahead for several programs in the AAC.

Whew, somehow missed this list

(05-27-2014 04:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 02:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  SMU would have been on that list two years ago. Pretty terrible list.

ECU was also god awful for a long time. Dave Odom is the only guy I can remember that moved on to anything better.

Hopefully better times ahead for several programs in the AAC.

Didn't Odom move on to an assistant position at UVA? Now I do recall a coach leaving ECU for Oregon State, but I don't know if that was/is considered a better job.

(05-27-2014 04:36 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 02:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  SMU would have been on that list two years ago. Pretty terrible list.

ECU was also god awful for a long time. Dave Odom is the only guy I can remember that moved on to anything better.

Hopefully better times ahead for several programs in the AAC.

Didn't Odom move on to an assistant position at UVA? Now I do recall a coach leaving ECU for Oregon State, but I don't know if that was/is considered a better job.

Odom ended up as Wake HC. 2nd most wins in school history.

I stopped reading this article when he put Marquette on this list. The author doesn't know his facts very well or maybe he has an axe to grind:

- Marquette plays in the Bradley Center
- They recruit in Chicago all the time and get better athletes than Wisconsin on a regular basis.
- He didn't mention it but they spent a ton of dough on their basketball program-- IIRC their basketball budget is one of the top 10 in the country.

I lol'd at that Texas Tech addition and most of the others are on point. I would have possibily considered schools like Penn State, Washington State and maybe a few in the SEC.

(05-27-2014 04:39 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:36 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 02:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  SMU would have been on that list two years ago. Pretty terrible list.

ECU was also god awful for a long time. Dave Odom is the only guy I can remember that moved on to anything better.

Hopefully better times ahead for several programs in the AAC.

Didn't Odom move on to an assistant position at UVA? Now I do recall a coach leaving ECU for Oregon State, but I don't know if that was/is considered a better job.

Odom ended up as Wake HC. 2nd most wins in school history.

He ended up at WF, but I think that he went to UVA first as an assistant. Maybe I just misplaced some years or something.

(05-27-2014 04:42 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:39 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:36 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 02:20 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  SMU would have been on that list two years ago. Pretty terrible list.

ECU was also god awful for a long time. Dave Odom is the only guy I can remember that moved on to anything better.

Hopefully better times ahead for several programs in the AAC.

Didn't Odom move on to an assistant position at UVA? Now I do recall a coach leaving ECU for Oregon State, but I don't know if that was/is considered a better job.

Odom ended up as Wake HC. 2nd most wins in school history.

He ended up at WF, but I think that he went to UVA first as an assistant. Maybe I just misplaced some years or something.

We both are correct.

Rutgers
Julie Hermann. It's that simple. If you're a coach at Rutgers, you have to deal with her. And she's a daily public relations nightmare for her university and the athletic programs it supports. Rutgers basketball's historic mediocrity can't be blamed on Hermann, though. Eddie Jordan and his predecessors have struggled with recruiting in a fruitful region. Without a real basketball legacy, Rutgers can't convince the blue-chippers to come to New Jersey. Oh, and then there's the aftermath of the Mike Rice situation. Rice is gone. But it's difficult to remove the stench from scandal, especially for a struggling program. Rutgers, even with the Big Ten checks that will arrive soon, continues to fight against the grain.

....lol

(05-27-2014 04:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I stopped reading this article when he put Marquette on this list. The author doesn't know his facts very well or maybe he has an axe to grind:

- Marquette plays in the Bradley Center
- They recruit in Chicago all the time and get better athletes than Wisconsin on a regular basis.
- He didn't mention it but they spent a ton of dough on their basketball program-- IIRC their basketball budget is one of the top 10 in the country.

I lol'd at that Texas Tech addition and most of the others are on point. I would have possibily considered schools like Penn State, Washington State and maybe a few in the SEC.

MU is a solid mid-major program that is going through some growing pains as it transitions from the old BigEast. A few months someone was trying to tell me that they were a major program/blue blood.....which is simply not so as this article reinforces. Solid program with a good history....but it's not a blue blood type of program.

Texas Tech is a bad job that even Bobby Knight couldn't turn around...

(05-27-2014 04:28 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 03:26 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Actually, any job in the ACC that isn't Duke, NC, Louisville, Pitt or Syracuse. You'll always be fighting for 6th place.

Virginia says hi

Any team can have one good year. They won't be there over the long haul. I'm looking at destination jobs.

(05-28-2014 06:02 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I stopped reading this article when he put Marquette on this list. The author doesn't know his facts very well or maybe he has an axe to grind:

- Marquette plays in the Bradley Center
- They recruit in Chicago all the time and get better athletes than Wisconsin on a regular basis.
- He didn't mention it but they spent a ton of dough on their basketball program-- IIRC their basketball budget is one of the top 10 in the country.

I lol'd at that Texas Tech addition and most of the others are on point. I would have possibily considered schools like Penn State, Washington State and maybe a few in the SEC.

MU is a solid mid-major program that is going through some growing pains as it transitions from the old BigEast. A few months someone was trying to tell me that they were a major program/blue blood.....which is simply not so as this article reinforces. Solid program with a good history....but it's not a blue blood type of program.

Texas Tech is a bad job that even Bobby Knight couldn't turn around...

There is a major distinction between being a "blue blood" and being a "bad program". Marquette is neither the former or the later.

the ECU job is a bad or a good job depending on how you look at it. Win you a CIT championship and make the CIT consistently and you are basically under contract for life.

(05-28-2014 07:06 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 06:02 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 04:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I stopped reading this article when he put Marquette on this list. The author doesn't know his facts very well or maybe he has an axe to grind:

- Marquette plays in the Bradley Center
- They recruit in Chicago all the time and get better athletes than Wisconsin on a regular basis.
- He didn't mention it but they spent a ton of dough on their basketball program-- IIRC their basketball budget is one of the top 10 in the country.

I lol'd at that Texas Tech addition and most of the others are on point. I would have possibily considered schools like Penn State, Washington State and maybe a few in the SEC.

MU is a solid mid-major program that is going through some growing pains as it transitions from the old BigEast. A few months someone was trying to tell me that they were a major program/blue blood.....which is simply not so as this article reinforces. Solid program with a good history....but it's not a blue blood type of program.

Texas Tech is a bad job that even Bobby Knight couldn't turn around...

There is a major distinction between being a "blue blood" and being a "bad program". Marquette is neither the former or the later.

I was also surprised to see Marquette on this list, it is certainly a less attractive job than it was when Marquette was in the old Big East but they certainly have a lot of positives as a basketball program.

In terms of the blue blood argument, I also would not include Marquette on that list. But they do have 31 NCAA appearances which is tied for 11th all time with UConn and Texas. They also won a national title in 1977. IMO they would be in the tier of programs right below the blue bloods.

(05-27-2014 01:55 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...basketball

Poorly researched, poorly written. Marquette? UNLV? Really? Those are worse jobs than NJIT, Youngstown State, Canisius, any job in the SWAC, etc?