http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/22...7%2F&ihp=1

Can the AAC fans stop crying now?

Stop crying in general, or stop crying about Boise State reversing the decision to throwing in with the "Big East of Reno" strategy?

Quote:The Mountain West agreed to pay up to $3 million toward Boise State’s Big East/American exit fees.

So, all Boise has to do at this mediation is keep saying no until it's time for the AAC guys to go back to O'Hare to catch their flight, and then the AAC will agree to take the MWC's $3 million and call it a day.

Kustra is also in bed with the AAC/Aresco per his comments today

(05-22-2014 03:25 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/22...7%2F&ihp=1

Can the AAC fans stop crying now?

I think you meant "The MWC and the AAC close to settlement"

I think the AAC dodged a bullet. Boise was a product of their coach and are clearly trending down.

(05-22-2014 04:25 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  I think the AAC dodged a bullet. Boise was a product of their coach and are clearly trending down.

I seem to recall the same things being said after Hawk left. Haters do realize that Petersen is not the only successful coach we've ever had, right?

(05-22-2014 03:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

Quote:The Mountain West agreed to pay up to $3 million toward Boise State’s Big East/American exit fees.

So, all Boise has to do at this mediation is keep saying no until it's time for the AAC guys to go back to O'Hare to catch their flight, and then the AAC will agree to take the MWC's $3 million and call it a day.

We have 100 million dollar exit fee war chest. We don't need the money today. Right now, Boise owes over 5 million plus interest and legal fees. I'd be willing to waive the fees, otherwise, I'd let it go to court. Boise doesnt really have much of a case. So, I'd just be patient and collect everything in a year or two. No reason to give up millions for no reason.

(05-22-2014 04:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

Quote:The Mountain West agreed to pay up to $3 million toward Boise State’s Big East/American exit fees.

So, all Boise has to do at this mediation is keep saying no until it's time for the AAC guys to go back to O'Hare to catch their flight, and then the AAC will agree to take the MWC's $3 million and call it a day.

We have 100 million dollar exit fee war chest. We don't need the money today. Right now, Boise owes over 5 million plus interest and legal fees. I'd be willing to waive the fees, otherwise, I'd let it go to court. Boise doesnt really have much of a case. So, I'd just be patient and collect everything in a year or two. No reason to give up millions for no reason.

A $100 million dollar exit fee war chest that's split evenly by UConn Cincy and USF.

(05-22-2014 04:43 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:25 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  I think the AAC dodged a bullet. Boise was a product of their coach and are clearly trending down.

I seem to recall the same things being said after Hawk left. Haters do realize that Petersen is not the only successful coach we've ever had, right?

Hawkins won because he had Petersen on his staff. Boise was winning this whole time because of Petersen. Now that he's gone, Boise will go bye-bye.

(05-22-2014 05:06 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:43 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:25 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  I think the AAC dodged a bullet. Boise was a product of their coach and are clearly trending down.

I seem to recall the same things being said after Hawk left. Haters do realize that Petersen is not the only successful coach we've ever had, right?

Hawkins won because he had Petersen on his staff. Boise was winning this whole time because of Petersen. Now that he's gone, Boise will go bye-bye.

Boise won 10 games in each of the two years before Hawkins/Petersen arrived.

Koetter was the one that first brought Boise to national FBS prominence.

(05-22-2014 04:50 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

Quote:The Mountain West agreed to pay up to $3 million toward Boise State’s Big East/American exit fees.

So, all Boise has to do at this mediation is keep saying no until it's time for the AAC guys to go back to O'Hare to catch their flight, and then the AAC will agree to take the MWC's $3 million and call it a day.

We have 100 million dollar exit fee war chest. We don't need the money today. Right now, Boise owes over 5 million plus interest and legal fees. I'd be willing to waive the fees, otherwise, I'd let it go to court. Boise doesnt really have much of a case. So, I'd just be patient and collect everything in a year or two. No reason to give up millions for no reason.

A $100 million dollar exit fee war chest that's split evenly by UConn Cincy and USF.

Those schools are messy eaters. Sometimes crumbs drop to the rest of us.

(05-22-2014 04:43 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:25 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  I think the AAC dodged a bullet. Boise was a product of their coach and are clearly trending down.

I seem to recall the same things being said after Hawk left. Haters do realize that Petersen is not the only successful coach we've ever had, right?

Pray tell: what advantage does Boise have over its conference-mates such as Nevada, Fresno, Utah State, or even Idaho? Seriously, I'm not trolling, I'd really like to know.

Because from the outside, I see a relatively small college with a 6% 4-year graduation rate in a region with no media market and practically no FBS-quality high school players. I also see a college with few alumni who financially support it (Boise's endowment of $83 million is 8th lowest in FBS).

You've had a great run. But Syracuse and Colorado had better runs in the 90s, and so did Houston in the 70s. Hell, Kentucky and Duke had similar runs in the 50s. None of those teams are currently among the elite in CFB, and to an outsider like me they all appear to have better systematic advantages than Boise. I'm not trying to rip on your school, it's just that I don't see where Boise's long-term advantage comes from. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

(05-22-2014 06:16 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:43 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:25 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  I think the AAC dodged a bullet. Boise was a product of their coach and are clearly trending down.

I seem to recall the same things being said after Hawk left. Haters do realize that Petersen is not the only successful coach we've ever had, right?

Pray tell: what advantage does Boise have over its conference-mates such as Nevada, Fresno, Utah State, or even Idaho? Seriously, I'm not trolling, I'd really like to know.

Because from the outside, I see a relatively small college with a 6% 4-year graduation rate in a region with no media market and practically no FBS-quality high school players. I also see a college with few alumni who financially support it (Boise's endowment of $83 million is 8th lowest in FBS).

You've had a great run. But Syracuse and Colorado had better runs in the 90s, and so did Houston in the 70s. Hell, Kentucky and Duke had similar runs in the 50s. None of those teams are currently among the elite in CFB, and to an outsider like me they all appear to have better systematic advantages than Boise. I'm not trying to rip on your school, it's just that I don't see where Boise's long-term advantage comes from. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

(05-22-2014 05:06 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  Hawkins won because he had Petersen on his staff. Boise was winning this whole time because of Petersen. Now that he's gone, Boise will go bye-bye.

Petersen wasn't even alive yet when Lyle Smith built the foundation of this program, and he was the QB coach at Portland State and then the WR coach at Oregon while Pokey Allen was leading us to the FBS level.

Additionally, Harsin was there when Pete was winning BCS bowls, and when he and Wilcox left, the on-field product started to regress. Now Harsin's back. We'll be fine.

Meanwhile, Houston will remain an irrelevant program that has the occasional empty stat-padding season here and there.

It's about time

(05-22-2014 03:25 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/22...7%2F&ihp=1

Can the AAC fans stop crying now?

Quite frankly, I am surprised that BSU officials didn't cover the situation of nBE/AAC falling apart regarding attaining BCS status before it was even launched in the agreement. By all business standards in business contracts, this is boilerplate and BSU should not have put itself in a position of having to pay exit fees. Does BSU have a Business degree program?

It's not 100 million in exit fees. A lot of the money is actually basketball units from the departed schools.

(05-22-2014 04:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

Quote:The Mountain West agreed to pay up to $3 million toward Boise State’s Big East/American exit fees.

So, all Boise has to do at this mediation is keep saying no until it's time for the AAC guys to go back to O'Hare to catch their flight, and then the AAC will agree to take the MWC's $3 million and call it a day.

We have 100 million dollar exit fee war chest. We don't need the money today. Right now, Boise owes over 5 million plus interest and legal fees. I'd be willing to waive the fees, otherwise, I'd let it go to court. Boise doesnt really have much of a case. So, I'd just be patient and collect everything in a year or two. No reason to give up millions for no reason.

"We" being primarily USF, Cincy, & UConn getting the lion's share, as it should be. It is in AAC's best interests to settle this as amicably as possible as AAC will have a business interest with MWC, a NonBCS colleague. The BCS continues to flex and expand its power and the NonBCS conferences need to be united and that starts with good personal business relationships.

At least the MWC said it like it is, they will cover $3 million of the $5 million AAC "exit fee" for Boise. For Maryland, the B1G calls it a "travel allowance". Either way and either team, it is about 60% of the exit fee.

At least the MWC is recognizing the bylaws of the AAC in that an exit fee is due.