If you are going stricly by lines of longitute, then Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane, Memphis, and Cincinnati are the schools furthest west. Period.

However, I suspect that UC would prefer to be in the east with UConn, Temple, USF, etc. so that is why I suggest Navy to the west, if they are agreeable to this

You could also do a north south arrangement. I'm not a huge fan of zipper divisions, but this is also a viable alternative.

(05-22-2014 02:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:46 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:25 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Navy to the west division is a simple solution. Other than that, there are no easy solutions with 7 eastern teams.

cincy west?

why the hell is neavy west? lease dont say to play small west private schools

Navy and SMU have a history, it would preserve that if Navy is in the West.

lite history but not big enough that theyd leave the conference with a chance at creating local rivalires and increase theri travel expense (navy/smu can be cross divisional rivals)

Navy is funded by the federal gov't. Not to mention they are football only, so any additional travel expenses are VERY minimal.

Gonna be a hell of a bloody fight between Cinci, USF, and UCF to decide who goes in the West division.

(05-22-2014 03:06 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Gonna be a hell of a bloody fight between Cinci, USF, and UCF to decide who goes in the West division.

Again, who says it HAS to be E/W divisions. I've presented 3 alternatives.

1) N/S
2) Zipper
3) Navy to west as compromise.

(05-22-2014 03:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:06 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Gonna be a hell of a bloody fight between Cinci, USF, and UCF to decide who goes in the West division.

Again, who says it HAS to be E/W divisions. I've presented 3 alternatives.

1) N/S
2) Zipper
3) Navy to west as compromise.

Because E/W makes the most sense.

Willing to bet anything that will be the orientation.

(05-22-2014 03:04 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Navy is funded by the federal gov't. Not to mention they are football only, so any additional travel expenses are VERY minimal.

something navy proudly touts is that they are the only service academy that pay for everything without the governments help...

navy is almost certainly not going west

(05-22-2014 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:04 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Navy is funded by the federal gov't. Not to mention they are football only, so any additional travel expenses are VERY minimal.

something navy proudly touts is that they are the only service academy that pay for everything without the governments help...

navy is almost certainly not going west

Yep, 95% of revenue is from ticket sales or donations

(05-22-2014 03:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:06 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Gonna be a hell of a bloody fight between Cinci, USF, and UCF to decide who goes in the West division.

Again, who says it HAS to be E/W divisions. I've presented 3 alternatives.

1) N/S
2) Zipper
3) Navy to west as compromise.

it says it in the aricle in the OP, we have 2 division setups planned both are east west, the difference will probably be a florida west or cincy west

"Aresco said both scheduling models break down by east-west geography for divisions. "

Navy, as a FB only member, should be moved to the west.

Here are the geographically important rivalries that need to be preserved in the same division of the AAC, in no particular order - Cincy/Memphis; USF/UCF; UH/SMU; maybe UConn/Temple. If there are others, please feel free to add.

The only drawback is that all the private schools will be in the same division, which could skew attendance figures unfavorably, but those schools do have a history with each other at least.

N/S is terrible. The idea that ECU wouldn't be in a division with either Florida school is just horrible. It's also horrible for every school in that north division that probably recruits Florida pretty hard. Just go east/west and either put Cincy or Navy in the west.

(05-22-2014 03:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:06 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Gonna be a hell of a bloody fight between Cinci, USF, and UCF to decide who goes in the West division.

Again, who says it HAS to be E/W divisions. I've presented 3 alternatives.

1) N/S
2) Zipper
3) Navy to west as compromise.

Oh, stop taking Cincy's side. :-)

(05-22-2014 03:12 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  Navy, as a FB only member, should be moved to the west.

Here are the geographically important rivalries that need to be preserved in the same division of the AAC, in no particular order - Cincy/Memphis; USF/UCF; UH/SMU; maybe UConn/Temple. If there are others, please feel free to add.

The only drawback is that all the private schools will be in the same division, which could skew attendance figures unfavorably, but those schools do have a history with each other at least.

literally every one you said will be preserved in accurate east west division, without putting far east maryland (navy) in the west

My money is on Cinci staying East.

USF, welcome to the West, brothers!

(05-22-2014 03:16 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  My money is on Cinci staying East.

USF, welcome to the West, brothers!

thats a possibility but aresco has talked about preserving and creating the rivalries as the biggest thing and cultivating them ..cincy east ruins any chance of memphis/cincy and weakens ucf/usf as they are non-divisional even playing every year the games wont be as important if division titles werent on the line

(05-22-2014 03:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:12 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  Navy, as a FB only member, should be moved to the west.

Here are the geographically important rivalries that need to be preserved in the same division of the AAC, in no particular order - Cincy/Memphis; USF/UCF; UH/SMU; maybe UConn/Temple. If there are others, please feel free to add.

The only drawback is that all the private schools will be in the same division, which could skew attendance figures unfavorably, but those schools do have a history with each other at least.

literally every one you said will be preserved in accurate east west division, without putting far east maryland (navy) in the west

True, and I don't have a dog in this fight, so I don't really care.

Selfishly, I'd like to have Cincy in the west and play them every year instead of Navy. I hate, hate, hate the triple option. I once attended an SMU/Navy game in Annapolis and witnessed history - Navy won without ever even attempting a pass. Monsoon conditions. Ugh.

(05-22-2014 03:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:16 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  My money is on Cinci staying East.

USF, welcome to the West, brothers!

thats a possibility but aresco has talked about preserving and creating the rivalries as the biggest thing and cultivating them ..cincy east ruins any chance of memphis/cincy and weakens ucf/usf as they are non-divisional even playing every year the games wont be as important if division titles werent on the line

I have not seen one Cinci poster in support of them going West, so I'm guessing that Memphis rivalry isn't very important to them.

If Cinci was amenable with going West, there wouldn't be an issue here at all.

(05-22-2014 03:24 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:16 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  My money is on Cinci staying East.

USF, welcome to the West, brothers!

thats a possibility but aresco has talked about preserving and creating the rivalries as the biggest thing and cultivating them ..cincy east ruins any chance of memphis/cincy and weakens ucf/usf as they are non-divisional even playing every year the games wont be as important if division titles werent on the line

I have not seen one Cinci poster in support of them going West, so I'm guessing that Memphis rivalry isn't very important to them.

If Cinci was amenable with going West, there wouldn't be an issue here at all.

and smu/houston isnt that big a rivalry either but aresco is still pushing it. it not about "want" its about the conferences vision to cultivate rivalries

(05-22-2014 03:24 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:16 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  My money is on Cinci staying East.

USF, welcome to the West, brothers!

thats a possibility but aresco has talked about preserving and creating the rivalries as the biggest thing and cultivating them ..cincy east ruins any chance of memphis/cincy and weakens ucf/usf as they are non-divisional even playing every year the games wont be as important if division titles werent on the line

I have not seen one Cinci poster in support of them going West, so I'm guessing that Memphis rivalry isn't very important to them.

If Cinci was amenable with going West, there wouldn't be an issue here at all.

From what I've gathered...Houston, Tulane, and Memphis are a little "too CUSA" for them.

Bless their hearts...

I'm all for Navy going to the west, or else ECU is going to have to learn how to defend against the triple option. Historically Navy has destroyed us with it.


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