“I don’t know why any university needs to do any more than that,” he said. “Like my conference commissioner, like my fellow presidents in the Mountain West, I’m very suspicious of what’s going on here. And so is the American conference, our old Big East conference — we’re talking more and more with them. I have a feeling we’re going to have a great partnership with the American conference over the years. And they feel the same way we do.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/21...rylink=cpy

Other than merge---I don't know what we could do together. If we merged, that would essentially be as close to a best of the rest conference as you could reasonably get. If deregulation of FBS divisional play occurs, there may be a way to do it.

(05-22-2014 01:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Other than merge---I don't know what we could do together. If we merged, that would essentially be as close to a best of the rest conference as you could reasonably get. If deregulation of FBS divisional play occurs, there may be a way to do it.

Pods

(05-22-2014 01:50 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  “I don’t know why any university needs to do any more than that,” he said. “Like my conference commissioner, like my fellow presidents in the Mountain West, I’m very suspicious of what’s going on here. And so is the American conference, our old Big East conference — we’re talking more and more with them. I have a feeling we’re going to have a great partnership with the American conference over the years. And they feel the same way we do.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/21...rylink=cpy

It looks like the MW and the AAC are working together to separate themselves from the G3 and futures inclusion with the P5.

Pod 1)

ECU
Navy
Temple
UCF

Pod 2)

Memphis
Cincy
UConn
USF

Pod 3)

Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Tulane

Pod 4)

CSU
Air Force
Wyoming
Utah State

Pod 5)

Boise
San Diego State
Fresno
UNLV

Pod 6)

Hawaii
San Jose State
New Mexico
Nevada

(05-22-2014 01:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Other than merge---I don't know what we could do together. If we merged, that would essentially be as close to a best of the rest conference as you could reasonably get. If deregulation of FBS divisional play occurs, there may be a way to do it.

tons of things i dont want
1) basketball challenge
2) ncaa agreement that our champion vs their champion for access slot
3) bowls

etc..

but in all likelyhood they are the ones doing the talking and we are the ones "listening" they have more to gain partnering with us than the other way round..hoping this partnership doesnt come to fruition

(05-22-2014 01:58 PM)1IvyDog Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:50 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  “I don’t know why any university needs to do any more than that,” he said. “Like my conference commissioner, like my fellow presidents in the Mountain West, I’m very suspicious of what’s going on here. And so is the American conference, our old Big East conference — we’re talking more and more with them. I have a feeling we’re going to have a great partnership with the American conference over the years. And they feel the same way we do.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/21...rylink=cpy

It looks like the MW and the AAC are working together to separate themselves from the G3 and futures inclusion with the P5.

The irony is that that is exactly what Kustra is poo-poohing. Kustra is talking (writing) out of both sides of his mouth. Again.

Odd oversight for Kustra not to mention the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

I'd like to see the AAC and MWC work together on a lot of fronts. It's a good way to ensure our mutual survival in the top flight.

This won't even happen, but I'd love to see a game between the AAC champ and the MWC champ as a "tiebreak" for an access bowl. I wonder if that could be negotiated with the Power Five.

I'm all for the AAC and MWC conference partnering to make sure they are seen as above the other G3 conferences. I'd much rather play MWC schools in FB than any MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt schools.

(05-22-2014 02:02 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:58 PM)1IvyDog Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:50 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  “I don’t know why any university needs to do any more than that,” he said. “Like my conference commissioner, like my fellow presidents in the Mountain West, I’m very suspicious of what’s going on here. And so is the American conference, our old Big East conference — we’re talking more and more with them. I have a feeling we’re going to have a great partnership with the American conference over the years. And they feel the same way we do.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/21...rylink=cpy

It looks like the MW and the AAC are working together to separate themselves from the G3 and futures inclusion with the P5.

The irony is that that is exactly what Kustra is poo-poohing. Kustra is talking (writing) out of both sides of his mouth. Again.

Odd oversight for Kustra not to mention the MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA.

Or...that the MW and AAC are the only 2 conferences that can or are able to push back for the rest of the G5?
The Sunbelt, MAC and CUSA teams are in no position or have the strength to do so. The MW and AAC who have beaten up a lot of P5 opponents and bigger budgets are in better position to work together against some of the P5 powerbrokers.

I think an alliance with the MWC could be helpful. You get SDSU, UNM to play us in basketball, Boise and whoever else to play us OOC in football. They are pretty close to us in terms of revenue per team. C-USA, Sun Belt, MAC not so much

(05-22-2014 02:27 PM)SouthPhillyFall Wrote:  I think an alliance with the MWC could be helpful. You get SDSU, UNM to play us in basketball, Boise and whoever else to play us OOC in football. They are pretty close to us in terms of revenue per team. C-USA, Sun Belt, MAC not so much

Actually not really

(05-22-2014 02:28 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:27 PM)SouthPhillyFall Wrote:  I think an alliance with the MWC could be helpful. You get SDSU, UNM to play us in basketball, Boise and whoever else to play us OOC in football. They are pretty close to us in terms of revenue per team. C-USA, Sun Belt, MAC not so much

Actually not really

He may have been talking about TV $ and ticket sales, not student fees to support athletics.

The G5 just needs to host a 16 team tournament and beat the P5 to the punch. ESPN would pay big money for that.

(05-22-2014 02:31 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  The G5 just needs to host a 16 team tournament and beat the P5 to the punch. ESPN would pay big money for that.

Why would we relegate ourselves to that

(05-22-2014 02:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:28 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:27 PM)SouthPhillyFall Wrote:  I think an alliance with the MWC could be helpful. You get SDSU, UNM to play us in basketball, Boise and whoever else to play us OOC in football. They are pretty close to us in terms of revenue per team. C-USA, Sun Belt, MAC not so much

Actually not really

He may have been talking about TV $ and ticket sales, not student fees to support athletics.

I meant TV-wise, they are our peers

(05-22-2014 02:31 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  The G5 just needs to host a 16 team tournament and beat the P5 to the punch. ESPN would pay big money for that.

like they pay or even air the fcs tournament?

or how they promote the NIT as a top basketball tournament?

we make ourselves a second tier we sink our own ship. people want the "highest level"

Exactly, why purposely relegate yourself to second tier status. The so called power 5 are trying to do that anyway.

Another thing, I sure wish the AAC and MWC could play each other for a slot in the Access bowl and cut out the Sun Belt, Mac, and Cusa.

I can see why the Power 5 would love to strip away the schools in the MAC, CUSA, and the Sun Belt. They contain too many state universities that are afterthoughts in their home states as well as too many FCS call ups.

However, the AAC and MWC deserve the chance to compete against the big boys. There are some brand name schools in both conferences that shouldn't be left out in the cold.