The ACC and SEC have created a de facto partnership as the lone power conferences to maintain an eight-game scheduling model entering the College Football Playoff.

Naturally, these two will play each other in nonconference action, and the momentum is already shifting that way.

An SEC source said about four or five teams from each league are discussing potential home-and-home matchups for some time in the next 6-7 years. These would be new matchups aside from the permanent end-of-year rivalries such as Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Clemson-South Carolina and Louisville-Kentucky. Neutral-site-heavy teams (think LSU/Alabama from the SEC and North Carolina/Virginia Tech from the ACC) are likely out of that mix, too, according to the source.

That would still leave dozens of potential combinations to digest.

SEC: Auburn, Texas A&M, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Vanderbilt.

ACC: Miami, North Carolina State, Virginia, Wake Forest, Duke, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Syracuse.

There's buzz about Miami and Florida playing in Orlando, and even if that doesn't happen (I'm skeptical), Florida could be in the market for another game away from the Swamp.

Vanderbilt no longer has the Wake Forest series but has talked to a few ACC private schools about a series.

(05-22-2014 12:04 PM)E2THEX Wrote:  The ACC and SEC have created a de facto partnership as the lone power conferences to maintain an eight-game scheduling model entering the College Football Playoff.

Naturally, these two will play each other in nonconference action, and the momentum is already shifting that way.

An SEC source said about four or five teams from each league are discussing potential home-and-home matchups for some time in the next 6-7 years. These would be new matchups aside from the permanent end-of-year rivalries such as Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Clemson-South Carolina and Louisville-Kentucky. Neutral-site-heavy teams (think LSU/Alabama from the SEC and North Carolina/Virginia Tech from the ACC) are likely out of that mix, too, according to the source.

That would still leave dozens of potential combinations to digest.

SEC: Auburn, Texas A&M, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Vanderbilt.

ACC: Miami, North Carolina State, Virginia, Wake Forest, Duke, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Syracuse.

There's buzz about Miami and Florida playing in Orlando, and even if that doesn't happen (I'm skeptical), Florida could be in the market for another game away from the Swamp.

Vanderbilt no longer has the Wake Forest series but has talked to a few ACC private schools about a series.

Beat me to it...posted this on the Realignment Board....

(05-22-2014 12:10 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 12:04 PM)E2THEX Wrote:  The ACC and SEC have created a de facto partnership as the lone power conferences to maintain an eight-game scheduling model entering the College Football Playoff.

Naturally, these two will play each other in nonconference action, and the momentum is already shifting that way.

An SEC source said about four or five teams from each league are discussing potential home-and-home matchups for some time in the next 6-7 years. These would be new matchups aside from the permanent end-of-year rivalries such as Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Clemson-South Carolina and Louisville-Kentucky. Neutral-site-heavy teams (think LSU/Alabama from the SEC and North Carolina/Virginia Tech from the ACC) are likely out of that mix, too, according to the source.

That would still leave dozens of potential combinations to digest.

SEC: Auburn, Texas A&M, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Vanderbilt.

ACC: Miami, North Carolina State, Virginia, Wake Forest, Duke, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Syracuse.

There's buzz about Miami and Florida playing in Orlando, and even if that doesn't happen (I'm skeptical), Florida could be in the market for another game away from the Swamp.

Vanderbilt no longer has the Wake Forest series but has talked to a few ACC private schools about a series.

Beat me to it...posted this on the Realignment Board....

I would love the Pack to set something up with Ole Miss, Miss State or Arkansas. It would be great to create a ACC/SEC regular season trophy. Granted it may not be in my life time to see the ACC ever win it, but I think it would enhance ACC Football down the road. In the words of Rick "Nature Boy" Flair, "to be the man, you have to beat the man"

The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

(05-22-2014 01:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

Agreed

(05-22-2014 01:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

Yeah, Baby!

(05-22-2014 01:38 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

Yeah, Baby!

This...and with the Orange Bowl continue the current relationship with the SEC, B1G & Notre Dame

(05-22-2014 01:49 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:38 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

Yeah, Baby!

This...and with the Orange Bowl continue the current relationship with the SEC, B1G & Notre Dame

A jointly owned Orange between the ACC and SEC, yet the SEC doesn't get equally opportunity playing in the Orange?

The Big 12 falling enough to lose the Sugar will take a long time. The ACC fell for quite some time and it held onto the Orange.

(05-22-2014 02:01 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:49 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:38 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

Yeah, Baby!

This...and with the Orange Bowl continue the current relationship with the SEC, B1G & Notre Dame

A jointly owned Orange between the ACC and SEC, yet the SEC doesn't get equally opportunity playing in the Orange?

The Big 12 falling enough to lose the Sugar will take a long time. The ACC fell for quite some time and it held onto the Orange.

No...thinking more of a 4 Joint Deal including the ACC, SEC, B1G and Notre Dame...more on a rotating basis but the two highest ranked ACC-SEC Schools not in the CFP playing in the Sugar. Bowl....but you're correct...the ACC will not be able to get into that Sugar Bowl spot for a long while.

(05-22-2014 02:20 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 02:01 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:49 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:38 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  The ACC has to start winning their share of these games, but talk about having the eye of the country on the ACC (and SEC) especially if these are all the start of the season (except the rivalry games of course). The SEC is definitely elevating the ACC profile with this.

Ultimate goal long-term should be replacing the Big 12 in the Sugar eventually, and the ACC and SEC jointly owning the Sugar and Orange.

Yeah, Baby!

This...and with the Orange Bowl continue the current relationship with the SEC, B1G & Notre Dame

A jointly owned Orange between the ACC and SEC, yet the SEC doesn't get equally opportunity playing in the Orange?

The Big 12 falling enough to lose the Sugar will take a long time. The ACC fell for quite some time and it held onto the Orange.

No...thinking more of a 4 Joint Deal including the ACC, SEC, B1G and Notre Dame...more on a rotating basis but the two highest ranked ACC-SEC Schools not in the CFP playing in the Sugar. Bowl....but you're correct...the ACC will not be able to get into that Sugar Bowl spot for a long while.

It would be nice to get a higher B1G/SEC pick, though. That can happen as soon as the next bowl negotiation cycle.

To be honest...the good move would probably be for the ACC, SEC and Big 12 to jointly own the Sugar and Orange, with an option for ND to play, and freeze out the B1G.

It would definitely make it more likely to have premier matchups. Let's be honest...how many years has the ACC had two teams worth of that level of bowl, let alone if three if one makes the playoffs? There's no juice in the SEC having an unranked or 25th ranked ACC opponent in the Sugar. The ACC really isn't ready to support a playoff participant and two BCS bowl teams on a yearly basis.

At the same time, as it stands now, if the Big 12 champ makes the playoffs, there is a good chance that the SEC is facing an underwhelming opponent in the Sugar, if Texas or OU isn't in second place. Having Alabama or LSU versus a 10-2 TCU or Oklahoma State team is not necessarily ideal for the SEC.

The SEC, Big 12 and ACC being able to pool their best four plus ND for the best possible matchups in the Sugar and Orange would all but guarantee outstanding matchups every year. The only guarantee would have to be that each conference got one slot, and the SEC got one of the Sugar slots. They could almost marginalize the Rose Bowl completely as an cute antique like the Army-Navy game or something, except in years when the Rose held a semifinal.

I mean, that only sort of makes sense in a universe where conferences are battling each other for mindshare, which is way overblown as being today's reality, but it could make some sense.

(05-22-2014 03:58 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  To be honest...the good move would probably be for the ACC, SEC and Big 12 to jointly own the Sugar and Orange, with an option for ND to play, and freeze out the B1G.

It would definitely make it more likely to have premier matchups. Let's be honest...how many years has the ACC had two teams worth of that level of bowl, let alone if three if one makes the playoffs? There's no juice in the SEC having an unranked or 25th ranked ACC opponent in the Sugar. The ACC really isn't ready to support a playoff participant and two BCS bowl teams on a yearly basis.

At the same time, as it stands now, if the Big 12 champ makes the playoffs, there is a good chance that the SEC is facing an underwhelming opponent in the Sugar, if Texas or OU isn't in second place. Having Alabama or LSU versus a 10-2 TCU or Oklahoma State team is not necessarily ideal for the SEC.

The SEC, Big 12 and ACC being able to pool their best four plus ND for the best possible matchups in the Sugar and Orange would all but guarantee outstanding matchups every year. The only guarantee would have to be that each conference got one slot, and the SEC got one of the Sugar slots. They could almost marginalize the Rose Bowl completely as an cute antique like the Army-Navy game or something, except in years when the Rose held a semifinal.

I mean, that only sort of makes sense in a universe where conferences are battling each other for mindshare, which is way overblown as being today's reality, but it could make some sense.

You just dropped the mic...the SEC with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas A&M, LSU and Tennessee...with the Big XII with Oklahoma, Texas and of course Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech with Notre Dame in the mix....

(05-22-2014 03:58 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  To be honest...the good move would probably be for the ACC, SEC and Big 12 to jointly own the Sugar and Orange, with an option for ND to play, and freeze out the B1G.

It would definitely make it more likely to have premier matchups. Let's be honest...how many years has the ACC had two teams worth of that level of bowl, let alone if three if one makes the playoffs? There's no juice in the SEC having an unranked or 25th ranked ACC opponent in the Sugar. The ACC really isn't ready to support a playoff participant and two BCS bowl teams on a yearly basis.

At the same time, as it stands now, if the Big 12 champ makes the playoffs, there is a good chance that the SEC is facing an underwhelming opponent in the Sugar, if Texas or OU isn't in second place. Having Alabama or LSU versus a 10-2 TCU or Oklahoma State team is not necessarily ideal for the SEC.

The SEC, Big 12 and ACC being able to pool their best four plus ND for the best possible matchups in the Sugar and Orange would all but guarantee outstanding matchups every year. The only guarantee would have to be that each conference got one slot, and the SEC got one of the Sugar slots. They could almost marginalize the Rose Bowl completely as an cute antique like the Army-Navy game or something, except in years when the Rose held a semifinal.

I mean, that only sort of makes sense in a universe where conferences are battling each other for mindshare, which is way overblown as being today's reality, but it could make some sense.

AWESOME, LOU!

Definitely elevates ACC.
Of course would have to win some of the games.

(05-22-2014 04:02 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:58 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  To be honest...the good move would probably be for the ACC, SEC and Big 12 to jointly own the Sugar and Orange, with an option for ND to play, and freeze out the B1G.

It would definitely make it more likely to have premier matchups. Let's be honest...how many years has the ACC had two teams worth of that level of bowl, let alone if three if one makes the playoffs? There's no juice in the SEC having an unranked or 25th ranked ACC opponent in the Sugar. The ACC really isn't ready to support a playoff participant and two BCS bowl teams on a yearly basis.

At the same time, as it stands now, if the Big 12 champ makes the playoffs, there is a good chance that the SEC is facing an underwhelming opponent in the Sugar, if Texas or OU isn't in second place. Having Alabama or LSU versus a 10-2 TCU or Oklahoma State team is not necessarily ideal for the SEC.

The SEC, Big 12 and ACC being able to pool their best four plus ND for the best possible matchups in the Sugar and Orange would all but guarantee outstanding matchups every year. The only guarantee would have to be that each conference got one slot, and the SEC got one of the Sugar slots. They could almost marginalize the Rose Bowl completely as an cute antique like the Army-Navy game or something, except in years when the Rose held a semifinal.

I mean, that only sort of makes sense in a universe where conferences are battling each other for mindshare, which is way overblown as being today's reality, but it could make some sense.

You just dropped the mic...the SEC with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas A&M, LSU and Tennessee...with the Big XII with Oklahoma, Texas and of course Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech with Notre Dame in the mix....

Yeah, even with 2-4 teams off the top for the playoffs...you'd have four left for stellar matchups.

If I'm figuring correctly, the last three years the Big 12 opponent in the sugar bowl would have been #11 Kansas State, #6 Kansas State, #6 Baylor.

Don't get me wrong, there is NOTHING shameful about those teams...they were all good and worthy teams (although they all lost their bowls and finished lower). But I don't know if that's the real star power the SEC wants to face there on a year in year out basis.

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