well said

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This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

(05-21-2014 09:36 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  well said

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Well said indeed. This is about financial starvation for anyone outside of the "chosen" conferences. It is disgusting what NCAA athletics has been allowed to become.

Something tells me the president of Big East member Boise State would not be singing this tune about P6-driven reform

(05-21-2014 11:51 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Something tells me the president of Big East member Boise State would not be singing this tune about P6-driven reform

Boise State never had a chance to be in a P6 conference. Make no mistake about that.

What needs to happen if these sham reforms go through is to cause the P5 schools to lose not-for-profit status at least where athletics are concerned. A 35% corporate tax haircut off the top of gross revenues paid directly to the IRS would have the P5 kicking and screaming, and it would be richly deserved.

(05-22-2014 12:29 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 11:51 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Something tells me the president of Big East member Boise State would not be singing this tune about P6-driven reform

Boise State never had a chance to be in a P6 conference. Make no mistake about that.

What needs to happen if these sham reforms go through is to cause the P5 schools to lose not-for-profit status at least where athletics are concerned. A 35% corporate tax haircut off the top of gross revenues paid directly to the IRS would have the P5 kicking and screaming, and it would be richly deserved.

P6 conference.....nope. No one has a chance of being in a P6 conference when it doesn't exist.

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

(05-22-2014 10:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

Bologna. He says money is ruining amateur athletics after he just accepted $12.5 million in corporate sponsorship.

(05-22-2014 10:09 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

Bologna. He says money is ruining amateur athletics after he just accepted $12.5 million in corporate sponsorship.

Corporate sponsorship came as a result of their own success in spite of opression and anti-trust created by power conferences. This is a separate issue. Boise isn't receiving a handout here simply as a result of the conference patch they wear on their jersey like many in the P5 currently do.

I somehow doubt, Vanderbilit for example, could sell rights to their stadium for that much and certainly couldn't do it if they were not in a power conference. Yet, Vandy and other schools like them bring in millions more than Boise all because of that patch on their jersey.

Critizing the AD for making the best out of his situation hardly is an adequate analogy. In fact, it's a bad one, and he has the right to say so.

(05-22-2014 10:09 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

Bologna. He says money is ruining amateur athletics after he just accepted $12.5 million in corporate sponsorship.

That's different, IMO, than getting a $20-40 million dollar check every year just for being in a conference.

That 12 million, spread out over what, 15 years? is not going to make fundamental changes to Boise's program. It doesn't suddenly put them in Club Rich.

Hell, we got $10 million for our stadium two years ago. $14 millionish if you include the field and field house naming rights.

It's time that someone spoke out against these greedy sons of biscuits. Everyone is afraid of speaking out because they don't want to seem small time. Heck, that's what we are because that's what they've been doing. Now THAT is REALLY the one percent.

Too much political power within the P5.

They'll do what they want to do, and make us like it.

So say your respective states' U.S. senators and representatives.

(05-22-2014 11:46 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Too much political power within the P5.

They'll do what they want to do, and make us like it.

So say your respective states' U.S. senators and representatives.

Yep, less political fallout for a Boise executive to say something like this. Idaho is one of the few states with Division I-A football without P5 institutions. You will never hear someone from the states of Tennessee, Texas or Florida say something like that.

New Mexico, Nevada and Connecticut are the only others I can think of. That said we probably need Boise to say what needs to be said for the rest of us.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the only reason Utah got in the Pac 12 was to shut Orrin Hatch up knowing there were very few other states that could do what he was doing at the time.

(05-22-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:09 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

Bologna. He says money is ruining amateur athletics after he just accepted $12.5 million in corporate sponsorship.

That's different, IMO, than getting a $20-40 million dollar check every year just for being in a conference.

That 12 million, spread out over what, 15 years? is not going to make fundamental changes to Boise's program. It doesn't suddenly put them in Club Rich.

Hell, we got $10 million for our stadium two years ago. $14 millionish if you include the field and field house naming rights.

What is not different is the fact that Kustra was willing to move his school's football program into a conference over 2,000 miles away from Boise, Idaho, just so that his team could be in a power (BCS) conference and get more money than they were making in the MWC. He didn't care anything about the MWC then; he only cares now, because he is being harmed.

(05-22-2014 12:00 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the only reason Utah got in the Pac 12 was to shut Orrin Hatch up knowing there were very few other states that could do what he was doing at the time.

Ding, Ding, Ding

(05-22-2014 12:02 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:09 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

Bologna. He says money is ruining amateur athletics after he just accepted $12.5 million in corporate sponsorship.

That's different, IMO, than getting a $20-40 million dollar check every year just for being in a conference.

That 12 million, spread out over what, 15 years? is not going to make fundamental changes to Boise's program. It doesn't suddenly put them in Club Rich.

Hell, we got $10 million for our stadium two years ago. $14 millionish if you include the field and field house naming rights.

What is not different is the fact that Kustra was willing to move his school's football program into a conference over 2,000 miles away from Boise, Idaho, just so that his team could be in a power (BCS) conference and get more money than they were making in the MWC. He didn't care anything about the MWC then; he only cares now, because he is being harmed.

This I definitely agree with.

(05-22-2014 10:09 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 10:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:56 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  This coming from the school who just sold stadium naming rights for $12.5 million. That's rich.

One has nothing to do with the other. Just sayin'.......

Bologna. He says money is ruining amateur athletics after he just accepted $12.5 million in corporate sponsorship.

And UAB would do the same if they had a staduim to sell their name rights to. That is a business decision because you're raising money for your university. Maybe accepting money for naming rights will mean Boise won't have to raise tuition cost for students.

Again, I don't think one has to do with the other.

Glad to see someone expressing something other than the company line.
Just as in the AQ system, sure not going to hear our C-USA commissioner say a peep.

Good for him. And he doesn't tell anyone to quit taking money, or to quit trying to improve their programs and their conferences. What he is taking issue with is deliberately squashing smaller programs and conferences as a means of improving your own situation, which is what the P5 (formerly P6) conferences are doing.

I even take umbrage with this "small conference" thought process.

If the revenues from the BCS/playoff going forward were shared equally among all 10 conferences whose to say that a school like North Texas or Marshall wouldn't be just as powerful on the field as anyone else? The gaps certainly includes history and institutionalization, but it's largely one of resources. And that's exactly what they are trying to prevent. That is why its collusion and anti-trust in the most agregious of fashions but again they have the clout because there is no risk of political or legal repercussions.

Just look at our leaders in Tennessee. Most bow down to the orange T in Knoxville and I say that as a graduate of that university. It's a shame the G5 schools are blockaded from competing in an equitable way and it will always be that way because of egos, power grabs and TV networks who are afraid that having a Boise St in their playoff/bowl game won't draw as good a ratings as a P5 school refusing to acknowledge that if we were allowed equal status and allowed to grow our program with those resources we may well be able to deliver those types of tickets sales and ratings one day.