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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A COMMUTER SCHOOL PERIOD. Get that through you thick head. You probably never been here so you don't know what the truth is but you act like you do.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 01:01 PM)whitey Wrote: (05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A COMMUTER SCHOOL PERIOD. Get that through you thick head. You probably never been here so you don't know what the truth is but you act like you do.
Are you guys really arguing over a term that neither school feels applies to them?
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 01:03 PM)Knightsweat Wrote: (05-26-2014 01:01 PM)whitey Wrote: (05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A COMMUTER SCHOOL PERIOD. Get that through you thick head. You probably never been here so you don't know what the truth is but you act like you do.
Are you guys really arguing over a term that neither school feels applies to them?
You are right but I get tired of other school's fan acting like they know more about ECU than our own fans do. And you know you would too.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 01:07 PM)whitey Wrote: (05-26-2014 01:03 PM)Knightsweat Wrote: (05-26-2014 01:01 PM)whitey Wrote: (05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A COMMUTER SCHOOL PERIOD. Get that through you thick head. You probably never been here so you don't know what the truth is but you act like you do.
Are you guys really arguing over a term that neither school feels applies to them?
You are right but I get tired of other school's fan acting like they know more about ECU than our own fans do. And you know you would too.
No argument there. It's the nature of sports forums.
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St. H. Gink
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
I was going solely off of CollegeBoard.org. I can see it hit a soft spot, though, which it shouldn't if it isn't the case. It's really nothing to be ashamed of. Regional universities don't just become national research universities. They all have to start somewhere.
High Cost Of Everything Affects ECU Commuter Students
LaToyna Taylor is one person directly affected by the high gas prices. She's an East Carolina University commuter student, meaning the more she drives the more she fills up and the more she spends.
Taylor said, "I live about 45 min away and I also work during the week, so I'll usually go through a tank or 50 dollars worth."
ECU provides commuter students residence hall stay during exams
"Student Triray Henry lives in Swansboro, which is about 20 minutes from Jacksonville and has to commute to Greenville for classes. She said the temporary housing is a good idea."
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 01:01 PM)whitey Wrote: (05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A COMMUTER SCHOOL PERIOD. Get that through you thick head. You probably never been here so you don't know what the truth is but you act like you do.
We have been called a "suitcase college" back in the day (everyone left town on Friday) but I can't remember being called a commuter school. The majority of students live in apartments and rental homes all over Greenville. They usually have roommates that are students...not their parents. There are several apartments complexes are strickly for students. They basically are private dorms. I expect this is similar to most larger Universities. Greenville is somewhat different though in that the town is very tied to the University and has grown with it. It is truly a college town. Anyone that has been to Greenville on game day would have a hard time saying otherwise.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 01:50 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: I was going solely off of CollegeBoard.org. I can see it hit a soft spot, though, which it shouldn't if it isn't the case. It's really nothing to be ashamed of. Regional universities don't just become national research universities. They all have to start somewhere.
High Cost Of Everything Affects ECU Commuter Students
LaToyna Taylor is one person directly affected by the high gas prices. She's an East Carolina University commuter student, meaning the more she drives the more she fills up and the more she spends.
Taylor said, "I live about 45 min away and I also work during the week, so I'll usually go through a tank or 50 dollars worth."
ECU provides commuter students residence hall stay during exams
"Student Triray Henry lives in Swansboro, which is about 20 minutes from Jacksonville and has to commute to Greenville for classes. She said the temporary housing is a good idea."
Sure...Every school has some students that commute. They are though not in any way the majority at ECU.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-22-2014 12:39 PM)NBPirate Wrote: (05-22-2014 12:34 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: (05-22-2014 12:13 PM)NBPirate Wrote: (05-22-2014 12:10 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: (05-21-2014 11:41 PM)whitey Wrote: I started in the 70ties & we have never been a commuter school, everyone live on campus or rented near. VERY FEW drove from their partents house to get to school.
Only 28% of undergraduates at ECU currently live in on-campus and affiliated housing. Not to mention, ECU requires incoming freshmen to live on campus which certainly inflates that number.
ECU Campus Dining even offers Commuter Meal Plans and ECU Parking & Transportation offers Commuter Permits.
ECU Commuter Meal Plans
ECU Commuter Permits
It's really nothing to be ashamed of and ECU has built enough on-campus housing recently to shed that image. Greenville has the ingredients to eventually become a traditional college town.
huh? Poor trolling
Not trolling at all. In fact, here's an article from your own newspaper.
What’s the matter with Greenville?
"Despite all of the approximately 27,000 students attending school here, Greenville doesn’t feel like a college town."
Also, notice my use of the word traditional. Obviously referring to established college towns and not just a small town with a college in it.
You cited an article written by a hipster who yearns for: [excerpt] "Where are the Hare Krishnas, the socialist bookshops, the kids playing guitar on the sidewalk, the eccentrics, the hipsters, the booming coffee shops, the radicals, the reactionaries … where is the weirdness and energy"
Those loons are over in Crapel Hell.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
I know little about ECU's gameday tradition, but I envy their broad based donor support.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-21-2014 02:10 PM)UConnFB Wrote: About ten years ago I went to and ECU-Tulane in Greenville. A friend who is an ECU alum and I drove down from Virginia. It was kind of a rainy day and the stadium never filled out, but my impression was that it was like Lite version of what experiences I had going to games at a bunch of other SEC schools and FSU. I kind of got the sense that they could become or do what VT did a while back.
After the first ACC raid, I think the Big East really missed the boat on ECU. Louisville, Cincy and USF were good picks, but ECU was at least as good. They may not have delivered a crucial market, but they had a good football pedigree.
While this is pure speculations, I think the nail in the coffin for the Big East was when the conference leadership failed to add East Carolina, once again, and tried to sell Villanova and the soccer stadium. West Virginia and Pittsburgh left.
While ECU needs to improve their basketball performance, football is an area that continues to shine for ECU.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 03:20 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I know little about ECU's gameday tradition, but I envy their broad based donor support.
I can tell you we would love to have a Fed Ex on our list. Doing it this way is hard. I was a Pirate Rep for 20 years. It takes a bunch of dedicated folks to knock on as many doors as we do to raise funding. It probably is one of the reasons we have decent fan base in a state dominated by the ACC schools and UNC politics. ECU fans know how hard it has been at every step of the way. I imagine Memphis has had similar battles with the Vol culture.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
Here is the math. There are 7,127 students enrolled in the 6 Pitt County high schools. Even though there are some, it is not practical that any student outside Pitt County would commute an hour or more to downtown Greenville, find a parking space, and commute back home the same day. There are some but an insignificant number. Dividing the HS enrollment by four years gives you a maximum 1,782 seniors. That's not considering non-graduates and dropouts. Some go UNC, NCSU and the other in-state schools but most do not attend college or go to Pitt Community College which has a full time enrollment of 4,924. PCC takes most of the Pitt County HS graduates. It would be safe to say no more than 30% of Pitt's HS seniors attend ECU... That's 535 students. ECU's enrollment is 27,782... hardly a commuter school.
Greenville is a tiny town without the students and its businesses exist solely to support the University. We have very little industry. We are a college town in its truest sense.
Here is what skewing your research numbers from the internet. The state of NC has grown so quickly in the past few decades that the State Legislature can't keep up with funding the necessary dorm needs of it's 16 campuses. We have had a huge influx of private student dorm investments. These massive complexes are located immediately around campus and contract with the student transit authority to pick up these students to shuttle them around a very large campus the same way they provide rides for the student dorms. If ECU didn't exist, Greenville would be nothing more that a cross road community for an agricultural region. We are and and always have been in my 62 years of living here a residential college town.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 07:10 PM)Xbones Wrote: (05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: There's not really a set number of miles a student has to drive to be considered a commuter student. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned those are students living at home and driving to school to take classes then driving back home. That's common with regional universities such as ECU, but it's a moot point now because as I said, they have a residential campus now so it no longer applies to ECU.
Here is the math. There are 7,127 students enrolled in the 6 Pitt County high schools. Even though there are some, it is not practical that any student outside Pitt County would commute an hour or more to downtown Greenville, find a parking space, and commute back home the same day. There are some but an insignificant number. Dividing the HS enrollment by four years gives you a maximum 1,782 seniors. That's not considering non-graduates and dropouts. Some go UNC, NCSU and the other in-state schools but most do not attend college or go to Pitt Community College which has a full time enrollment of 4,924. PCC takes most of the Pitt County HS graduates. It would be safe to say no more than 30% of Pitt's HS seniors attend ECU... That's 535 students. ECU's enrollment is 27,782... hardly a commuter school.
Greenville is a tiny town without the students and its businesses exist solely to support the University. We have very little industry. We are a college town in its truest sense.
Here is what skewing your research numbers from the internet. The state of NC has grown so quickly in the past few decades that the State Legislature can't keep up with funding the necessary dorm needs of it's 16 campuses. We have had a huge influx of private student dorm investments. These massive complexes are located immediately around campus and contract with the student transit authority to pick up these students to shuttle them around a very large campus the same way they provide rides for the student dorms. If ECU didn't exist, Greenville would be nothing more that a cross road community for an agricultural region. We are and and always have been in my 62 years of living here a residential college town.
I didn't read all of this because you seemed to have missed where I said SEVERAL times that I do not think ECU is a commuter school and that they are clearly a residential campus.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 12:43 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: I didn't read all of this because you seemed to have missed where I said SEVERAL times that I do not think ECU is a commuter school and that they are clearly a residential campus.
Sorry, I didn't mean to debate your post. I intended to expand on what you wrote. It was a general comment about the subject. I edited my post to remove the direct reply to you.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 03:36 PM)chess Wrote: (05-21-2014 02:10 PM)UConnFB Wrote: About ten years ago I went to and ECU-Tulane in Greenville. A friend who is an ECU alum and I drove down from Virginia. It was kind of a rainy day and the stadium never filled out, but my impression was that it was like Lite version of what experiences I had going to games at a bunch of other SEC schools and FSU. I kind of got the sense that they could become or do what VT did a while back.
After the first ACC raid, I think the Big East really missed the boat on ECU. Louisville, Cincy and USF were good picks, but ECU was at least as good. They may not have delivered a crucial market, but they had a good football pedigree.
While this is pure speculations, I think the nail in the coffin for the Big East was when the conference leadership failed to add East Carolina, once again, and tried to sell Villanova and the soccer stadium. West Virginia and Pittsburgh left.
I was in favor of ECU joining the Big East all along (from 2005 onwards), but this isn't just speculation, it's self-serving (LOL). There is no way that the fate of the Big East hinged on ECU.
The Big East died when it failed to recognize that the ACC was always out to get it. Big East thought of the ACC as "peers" and that the 2003 raid was an aberration, while ACC kept plotting to kill the Big East and capture the northeast corridor.
And they did. In 2011, there was no way Pitt or Cuse was going to turn down the ACC, ECU or no ECU.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
Cincinnati is not a commuter campus. The majority of the students are from areas beyond 60 miles away and the majority live within a few miles of campus. That's from the Ohio Board of Regents.
(05-21-2014 04:47 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote: UCF
Residential Campus
Suburban Setting
Very Large City
UConn
Residential Campus
Rural Setting
Large Town
Tulane
Residential Campus
Urban Setting
Very Large City
SMU
Residential Campus
Suburban Setting
Very Large City
Tulsa
Residential Campus
Urban Setting
Large City
Navy
Residential Campus
Suburban Setting
Large Town
Rutgers
Residential Campus
Suburban Setting
Large Town
East Carolina
Residential Campus
Urban Setting
Small City
Temple
Commuter Campus
Urban Setting
Very Large City
Memphis
Commuter Campus
Urban Setting
Very Large City
South Florida
Commuter Campus
Urban Setting
Very Large City
Houston
Commuter Campus
Urban Setting
Very Large City
Louisville
Commuter Campus
Urban Setting
Very Large City
Cincinnati
Commuter Campus
Urban Setting
Large City
Source: CollegeBoard.org
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
(05-26-2014 03:36 PM)chess Wrote: (05-21-2014 02:10 PM)UConnFB Wrote: About ten years ago I went to and ECU-Tulane in Greenville. A friend who is an ECU alum and I drove down from Virginia. It was kind of a rainy day and the stadium never filled out, but my impression was that it was like Lite version of what experiences I had going to games at a bunch of other SEC schools and FSU. I kind of got the sense that they could become or do what VT did a while back.
After the first ACC raid, I think the Big East really missed the boat on ECU. Louisville, Cincy and USF were good picks, but ECU was at least as good. They may not have delivered a crucial market, but they had a good football pedigree.
While this is pure speculations, I think the nail in the coffin for the Big East was when the conference leadership failed to add East Carolina, once again, and tried to sell Villanova and the soccer stadium. West Virginia and Pittsburgh left.
While ECU needs to improve their basketball performance, football is an area that continues to shine for ECU.
Not sure if serious.
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RE: AAC schools in conference calls with ECU re: gameday experience
Pitt and 'Cuse were going to go to the ACC no matter what, at which point WVU was not going to hang around, ECU or no ECU. The Big East (football) was doomed from the moment the ACC wanted more than 12 teams, and there was nobody they could have added that would have changed anything.
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(05-26-2014 11:26 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: Cincinnati is not a commuter campus. The majority of the students are from areas beyond 60 miles away and the majority live within a few miles of campus. That's from the Ohio Board of Regents.
UC Student Factbook for 2011-2012 shows
60.6% of UC undergrads, come from just 4 counties in Cinci area:
Hamilton: 33.3%
Clermont: 11.8%
Butler: 8.9%
Warren: 6.6%
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