(05-22-2014 07:37 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Leon Czolgosz

(this is not a joke)

Really? And you wonder why the world considers you an idiot?

his actions did remove a horrible president and ushered in one of the best.

(05-21-2014 07:42 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:35 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 04:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 04:12 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 03:47 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Here's a few off the top that have not already been mentioned:

St. Paul
Martin Luther
Michelangelo
Leonardo da Vinci
Sir Issac Newton
George Washington
Abraham Lincoln
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Jonas Salk

I respect the man for the immeasurable economic impact he had on our nation and the world, but he was a nasty person.

So was Newton by all accounts.

Edison was a dick who stole a lot of ideas off his assistants, just ask Tesla.

And don't get me started on Lincoln.

i'm curious......

I thought you knew all about those times. You should probably name John Wilkes Booth in his place.

(05-22-2014 09:27 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 07:37 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Leon Czolgosz

(this is not a joke)

Really? And you wonder why the world considers you an idiot?

his actions did remove a horrible president and ushered in one of the best.

You can watch his electrocution on Youtube. It's been 112 years since.

(05-22-2014 09:30 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:42 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:35 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 04:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 04:12 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I respect the man for the immeasurable economic impact he had on our nation and the world, but he was a nasty person.

So was Newton by all accounts.

Edison was a dick who stole a lot of ideas off his assistants, just ask Tesla.

And don't get me started on Lincoln.

i'm curious......

I thought you knew all about those times. You should probably name John Wilkes Booth in his place.

I do.

just wanted to hear his stance on things.

(05-22-2014 10:43 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 09:30 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:42 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 07:35 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 04:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  So was Newton by all accounts.

Edison was a dick who stole a lot of ideas off his assistants, just ask Tesla.

And don't get me started on Lincoln.

i'm curious......

I thought you knew all about those times. You should probably name John Wilkes Booth in his place.

I do.

just wanted to hear his stance on things.

I'm curious to know why you'd vote for him to be one of the best people in history.

(05-22-2014 08:42 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I don't buy the criticism of Mandela. The things people complain about are things that probably any of us would have done in the same situation, if we had been able to find the strength. And the good will that he showed toward his former enemies after the fall of Apartheid is way more than enough to overcome that.

It may be a factor that through rugby you learn a lot about the story that is not well understood by all. I've had the pleasure of having a beer or a few in Pretoria with Francois Pienaar (the Matt Damon character in Invictus) and I can tell you that the love and respect for Mandela is well deserved.

Name drop much?

"Best" depends on the criteria used to determine bestness:
holy person, contribution to the advancement of mankind, great artist, great thinker, great inventor, great warrior, great leader etc.
many who were the "best" did have foibles.

Winston Churchill
William Shakespeare
Galileo
Copernicus
Beethoven
Mozart
Charles Dickens
JS Bach
Lewis and Clark
Alexander Graham Bell
Wright Brothers
Charles Darwin
Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie

Martin Luther

(05-22-2014 12:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Martin Luther

He had white privilege.

I'm still waiting on john to tell me why Lincoln was a best people pick. I know that all he knows about the Civil War is that the South just wanted to keep slaves, and Lincoln freed them, but he doesn't know the stuff the revisionists refuse to add.

LSU, that's Martin Luther the Protestant Reformer not Martin Luther King Jr.

(05-22-2014 01:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  LSU, that's Martin Luther the Protestant Reformer not Martin Luther King Jr.

They both had white privilege!

(05-22-2014 12:54 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 12:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Martin Luther

He had white privilege.

I'm still waiting on john to tell me why Lincoln was a best people pick. I know that all he knows about the Civil War is that the South just wanted to keep slaves, and Lincoln freed them, but he doesn't know the stuff the revisionists refuse to add.

yeah sorry but i am not gonna waste my time on someone who is hellbent on maintaining the revisionist version of history.

So you like only your version of revisionist history?

(05-22-2014 04:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 12:54 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 12:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Martin Luther

He had white privilege.

I'm still waiting on john to tell me why Lincoln was a best people pick. I know that all he knows about the Civil War is that the South just wanted to keep slaves, and Lincoln freed them, but he doesn't know the stuff the revisionists refuse to add.

yeah sorry but i am not gonna waste my time on someone who is hellbent on maintaining the revisionist version of history.

You do realize that in order to be revised, it has to be rewritten, right? I grew up in an era where political correctness wasn't even a twinkle in an eye... I've read the history of 19th century America the way it was written years ago. You've come up in an era that read about this history after it was altered. If you want to think that the past was all fabricated, and then accurately changed 140 years later then be my guest, but your hate for that era will always be unwarranted. And just so you're aware of how great Lincoln really was, he got assassinated before he could follow out his plan to send every single African man, woman, and child back to Africa. And not the North, nor the South disagreed with his decision outside of a very small, single digit percentage of people from both regions.

(05-22-2014 01:52 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  LSU, that's Martin Luther the Protestant Reformer not Martin Luther King Jr.

They both had white privilege!

Man, you're as bad as a race baiting lib imo....when given the opportunity, you strike

(05-22-2014 04:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 04:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 12:54 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 12:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Martin Luther

He had white privilege.

I'm still waiting on john to tell me why Lincoln was a best people pick. I know that all he knows about the Civil War is that the South just wanted to keep slaves, and Lincoln freed them, but he doesn't know the stuff the revisionists refuse to add.

yeah sorry but i am not gonna waste my time on someone who is hellbent on maintaining the revisionist version of history.

You do realize that in order to be revised, it has to be rewritten, right? I grew up in an era where political correctness wasn't even a twinkle in an eye... I've read the history of 19th century America the way it was written years ago. You've come up in an era that read about this history after it was altered. If you want to think that the past was all fabricated, and then accurately changed 140 years later then be my guest, but your hate for that era will always be unwarranted. And just so you're aware of how great Lincoln really was, he got assassinated before he could follow out his plan to send every single African man, woman, and child back to Africa. And not the North, nor the South disagreed with his decision outside of a very small, single digit percentage of people from both regions.

this is what I am talking about. certain people are so hell bent on hate because they don't want to admit the reality of the past.

Lincoln kept this nation together, oversaw the end of slavery and oversaw the expansion of the federal govt into its modern form. he is a key reason why america became the superpower that it is today.

(05-22-2014 04:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  So you like only your version of revisionist history?

it's the version that reality tends to agree with.

so yeah..........

Jesus (if he did exist)
Thomas Jefferson
Gandhi
Martin Luther King Jr