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I like it. But then I think the NCAA should bring back the No Playing Time for Freshmen rule too.

The Marshall plane crash is why freshmen play now.

"2.3 or Hit a Knee."

With this, the NBA considering raising the minimum age, and NBDL expanding teams to become a true farm system, I see the NBDL becoming train option for basketball playrts

(05-21-2014 09:58 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  With this, the NBA considering raising the minimum age, and NBDL expanding teams to become a true farm system, I see the NBDL becoming train option for basketball playrts

Yup

One possible consequence of this rule may be to increase the local pressure on academic faculty members who will be called into an administrator's office to justify a poor grade for a promising athlete. "Been there, defended that"

In Alabama at least, I know the school's principal can "adjust" whatever grades he/she wishes to change. I have seen it done, though not necessarily for athletes.

Quite frankly, if your high school GPA is below 2.3, you shouldn't be admitted to college.

(05-21-2014 09:23 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  I like it. But then I think the NCAA should bring back the No Playing Time for Freshmen rule too.

The Pac-12 proposed just that this week for men's basketball. Saying that if the NBA and their players association can't get the NBA's age limit raised (eliminating the one and done) then perhaps it's time to return to freshman ineligibility.

Quote:The Associated Press reported Tuesday that the presidents of Pac-12 schools have sent a joint letter to the 53 presidents of schools in the other four major FBS conferences, proposing they come together to back a set of sweeping NCAA reforms.

In addition to supporting the five major conferences' bid for autonomy within the NCAA's givernance structure, the letter outlines 10 proposed changes to the current NCAA model, many of them similar to those supported by the College Athletes Player Association. The AP reports the letter was "spurred in part" by the move by former and current Northwestern football players to unionize under the CAPA banner.

— Permit institutions to make scholarship awards up to the full cost of attendance

— Provide reasonable ongoing medical or insurance assistance for student-athletes who suffer an incapacitating injury in competition or practice. Continue efforts to reduce the incidence of disabling injury.

— Guarantee scholarships for enough time to complete a bachelor's degree, provided that the student remains in good academic standing.

— Decrease the demands placed on the athlete in-season, correspondingly increase the time available for studies and campus life, by preventing the abuse of organized "voluntary" practices to circumvent the limit of 20 hours per week and more realistically assess the time away from campus and other commitments during the season.

— Similarly decrease time demands out of season by reducing out-of-season competition and practices, and by considering shorter seasons in specific sports.

— Further strengthen the Academic Progress Rate requirements for postseason play.

— Address the "one and done" phenomenon in men's basketball. If the NBA its Players Association are unable to agree to raising the age limit for players, consider restoring the freshman ineligibility rule in men's basketball.

— Provide student-athletes a meaningful role in governance at the conference and NCAA levels.

— Adjust existing restrictions so that student-athletes preparing for the next stage of their careers are not unnecessarily deprived of the advice and counsel of agents and other competent professionals, but without professionalizing intercollegiate athletics.

— Liberalize the current rules limiting the ability of student-athletes to transfer between institutions.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ck-reforms

(05-21-2014 03:07 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 09:23 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  I like it. But then I think the NCAA should bring back the No Playing Time for Freshmen rule too.

#1— Provide reasonable ongoing medical or insurance assistance for student-athletes who suffer an incapacitating injury in competition or practice. Continue efforts to reduce the incidence of disabling injury.

#2— Guarantee scholarships for enough time to complete a bachelor's degree, provided that the student remains in good academic standing.

#3— Address the "one and done" phenomenon in men's basketball. If the NBA its Players Association are unable to agree to raising the age limit for players, consider restoring the freshman ineligibility rule in men's basketball.[/b]

#4— Liberalize the current rules limiting the ability of student-athletes to transfer between institutions.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ck-reforms
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Regarding #1 - Would this exclude any injury NOT "directly" athletic activity related or not recognized immediately?

#2 - It has been told that as academic standards have been raised at universities, more and more students (not just athletes) are taking 5+ years to complete their degree programs - particularly if they are in technical or scientific fields.

#3 - If the "one & done" is artificially ended, do we return to the Labron Age of losing talented high school players completely as they go directly to the DL to get immediate money into their pockets? Any change from just the NBA will likely result in litigation right away.

#4 - Transfer rules should be changed to allow immediate play if the transfer is to a nonBCS type program. Within the Big 5 it should remain as is.

#4
If player in good standing is forced to leave by coaching staff he should be immediately eligible. If a graduated player is blocked from playing by his previous school the previous school should be forced to keep that player's scholly on their books unused...

(05-21-2014 03:00 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote:  Quite frankly, if your high school GPA is below 2.3, you shouldn't be admitted to college.

bingo!

(05-21-2014 03:00 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote:  Quite frankly, if your high school GPA is below 2.3, you shouldn't be admitted to college.

I worked 30+ hours a week, was youth pastor at my church, played baseball year-round, played in a band, and took full AP classes...all at my father's insistence. I logged a 31 on the ACT but a 2.8 GPA. Which number means more to you? Does any of the contextual information have any bearing or is it just number uber alles?

EDIT: And, yes, my father shouldn't have insisted on that, but the point is that an individual should be able to bring such circumstances to the attention of someone for special adjudication.

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(05-21-2014 08:32 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 03:00 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote:  Quite frankly, if your high school GPA is below 2.3, you shouldn't be admitted to college.

bingo!

The two of you are assuming that all Alabama high schools are equally funded and can turn out an equal product from equally equipped students. Also that all high schools have the same grading scale. When my wife's daughter was at Mountain Brook HS, the grade scale was 94+ for an "A", 85+ for a "B" and 76+ for a "C". I don't know what different grade scales there are around the state since all 133 districts can have their own.(I also don't know if the "Common Core" has changed any of this.)

(05-21-2014 08:54 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 08:32 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 03:00 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote:  Quite frankly, if your high school GPA is below 2.3, you shouldn't be admitted to college.

bingo!

The two of you are assuming that all Alabama high schools are equally funded and can turn out an equal product from equally equipped students. Also that all high schools have the same grading scale. When my wife's daughter was at Mountain Brook HS, the grade scale was 94+ for an "A", 85+ for a "B" and 76+ for a "C". I don't know what different grade scales there are around the state since all 133 districts can have their own.(I also don't know if the "Common Core" has changed any of this.)

No, they aren't. You are saying that is what they are saying that is what they are assuming simply so you can go off on a tangent we've all heard from you a million times.

They are saying if you can't get a 2.3 GPA in high school you probably don't belong in college. That is a pretty correct assessment.

(05-21-2014 03:59 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Regarding #1 - Would this exclude any injury NOT "directly" athletic activity related or not recognized immediately?

#2 - It has been told that as academic standards have been raised at universities, more and more students (not just athletes) are taking 5+ years to complete their degree programs - particularly if they are in technical or scientific fields.

#3 - If the "one & done" is artificially ended, do we return to the Labron Age of losing talented high school players completely as they go directly to the DL to get immediate money into their pockets? Any change from just the NBA will likely result in litigation right away.

#4 - Transfer rules should be changed to allow immediate play if the transfer is to a nonBCS type program. Within the Big 5 it should remain as is.

Who, or what is Labron? And do you know what the average salary of a D-League playeris ? Just because they can get money in their pockets doesn't necessarily mean they'll have a better living situation. In fact, I would argue it would be far worse than going to college in most instances.

I thought Moses Malone was the first to go straight to NBA, but that may have been before BNBfan's time.

(05-22-2014 12:18 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  I thought Moses Malone was the first to go straight to NBA, but that may have been before BNBfan's time.

I don't think the original Moses was before BNB's time.

You need a minimum 2.5 to graduate from many undergraduate programs at UAB... then again, most high schools don't have free tutoring and organized study sessoins.

(05-23-2014 09:53 PM)UABslant Wrote:  You need a minimum 2.5 to graduate from many undergraduate programs at UAB... then again, most high schools don't have free tutoring and organized study sessoins.

Tutoring situations are not the same across our state. Some schools don't have the local funding to provide it, and it is not paid for by the state through the ASETF. Tutoring is entirely a locally funded after school job. A friend's son was tutored at Mountain Brook HS in math. He told me they had a 9th grade math tutor, a 10th grade math tutor, an 11th grade math tutor and a 12th grade math tutor for every tutoring session. At that time WEHS offered tutoring after school too - one math tutor for all 4 levels (and if no students came, you didn't get the $10 per hour it would have paid).