Because you really are trying to sell us on the idea that Iowa State will make as much money as Iowa and that the CIC is not something every president of a major public research U wants to be a part of.

But hey, it's a free country and you can believe whatever you like I suppose.

(05-20-2014 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:46 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:14 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Are you really trying to say that the Big 12 makes equal money to the B1G and that CIC membership wouldn't help boost their academics?

Sounds like some bad B12 homerism

dude he is one of the biggest b12 homers on this forum and is well known to have a lack of grasp on reality. don't waste your time.

And you are one of the biggest Big 12 haters on this forum with a total lack of a grasp on reality.

Why is this forum a Big 12 attack forum anyway?

yeah statements such as KU going from the b12 to the b10 is not a lateral move, but an upgrade = me being a hater

you are too funny dude.

Sorry but ignorant misguided hatred of the Big 12 doesn't make a KU move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten not a lateral move. It's something that isn't going to happen anyway--neither side has interest.

(05-20-2014 03:52 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Because you really are trying to sell us on the idea that Iowa State will make as much money as Iowa and that the CIC is not something every president of a major public research U wants to be a part of.

But hey, it's a free country and you can believe whatever you like I suppose.

Iowa State will make as much as Iowa from media rights deals. They won't make as much as Iowa does from selling tickets or things like that that are independent of conference and only related to the individual schools.

If every president of major public research Us wanted to be a part of the CIC then every conference would have the equivalent of it. It neither changes academics at a school or increases revenues at a school. Other conferences likely have academic sharing between themselves and other conference mates--or even other unrelated universities--its not something specific to the Big Ten.

Sigh. This realignment talk had lost touch with reality. The refrigerator had been nuked.


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(05-20-2014 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:46 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:14 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Are you really trying to say that the Big 12 makes equal money to the B1G and that CIC membership wouldn't help boost their academics?

Sounds like some bad B12 homerism

dude he is one of the biggest b12 homers on this forum and is well known to have a lack of grasp on reality. don't waste your time.

And you are one of the biggest Big 12 haters on this forum with a total lack of a grasp on reality.

Why is this forum a Big 12 attack forum anyway?

yeah statements such as KU going from the b12 to the b10 is not a lateral move, but an upgrade = me being a hater

you are too funny dude.

No, it's the other 90% of your posts

(05-20-2014 04:01 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Sigh. This realignment talk had lost touch with reality. The refrigerator had been nuked.


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Not quite but I do think Gozer the Gozerian is on the loose and the Keymaster and the Gatekeeper have gotten together releasing the evil spirits of realignment. It may be time to call Threadbusters!

(05-20-2014 03:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 12:54 PM)Dasville Wrote:  For the B1G that would be: Nebraska/Maryland/Rutgers/UConn/Kansas

For the ACC that would be: Syracuse/Pittsburgh/UofL/WVU/CincinnatiNotre Dame.

Academics - B1G
Athletics - ACC
Markets - B1G

I know there are DMA's :

http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/lo...s-dma.html

what about viewership on Networks?

(05-20-2014 04:14 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 03:12 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 12:54 PM)Dasville Wrote:  For the B1G that would be: Nebraska/Maryland/Rutgers/UConn/Kansas

For the ACC that would be: Syracuse/Pittsburgh/UofL/WVU/CincinnatiNotre Dame.

Academics - B1G
Athletics - ACC
Markets - B1G

I know there are DMA's :

http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/lo...s-dma.html

what about viewership on Networks?

Big Ten football viewership is well ahead of the ACC.

People making things up at an astronomical rate around here lately.

Just Kansas and WVU leaving the Big 12? Completely irrational and impossible. It is funny how folks can shoot down viable scenarios as being "too big" and impossible yet somehow Kansas and West Virginia are somehow going to just leave the Big 12?

So what about Texas and Oklahoma and all the rest? You think they would stick around for that folks? You think if they weren't going to that UConn would get even a whiff from The Big Ten?

Completely asinine scenario people are trying to pass off as some possibility.

(05-20-2014 01:53 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 01:48 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  well this has escalated...

It's the offseason for major college sports and not much is happening. This was almost inevitable.

Yes, when even the Sunbelt decides not to hand up a Go5 realignment to chew over, then it seems the time has come to pay attention to people like a radio sports talk show guy who has made big, bold, and false predictions before.

Following some of these conversations, its possible to see some of these rumors get invented out of thin air before our eyes ... in a process kind of like somebody wondering why the Big Ten doesn't allow an eastern non-AAU school to match the western non-AAU school, someone else repeating that they heard that the Big Ten should allow one non-AAU school per division, someone else repeating that they heard that the Big Ten might allow one non-AAU school per division and away you go.

These are not rumors, they are voices heard inside ones head.

(05-20-2014 10:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  These are not rumors, they are voices heard inside ones head.

Buffalo!

This whole thing lost me at WVU to the ACC. Has the ACC not made its position crystal clear about WVU?

I know UConn wants to move....but acting like the Big 12 GoR issues and ACC's disdain for WVU don't exist are foolishness.

(05-20-2014 10:03 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  These are not rumors, they are voices heard inside ones head.

The realignment rumor mill has always had a low signal to noise ratio, but since at the present time, it is not receiving any signal at all, at the moment its just a mechanism for generating noise. Power conference realignment has proceeded for over a half century with flurries of activity punctuating longer periods of stability, and by all indications we have entered one of the latter.

There may well be some continued aftershocks down in the Go5 level, but Go5 realignment just isn't enough to slake the thirst for realignment excitement that developed over the course of the last flurry of power conference realignment.

The political situation in Kansas is pretty grim- you have a majority tea-party (i.e. idiot) legislators who have no qualms about slashing and burning - i.e. you could see them acting pretty quick to make sure KU is tied to KSU Legislatively (see OU/OSU). And if KU did it anyway, they'd punish them big time in the budget - there is already a great deal of hostility in the legislature to higher academics.

So, even if the B1G wants KU (they might), the only way its happening is if they bring in KSU as well. Unless they are looking at an 18 or 20 team conf I don't see that being allowed.

(05-20-2014 01:01 PM)bluesox Wrote:  If the big 10 is gonna bring in KU and thus void somehow the big 12 GOR, why wouldn't they target OU to pair with KU? I mean KU and Uconn football pretty much are in the dumpster. I could understand one from KU and uconn but not both for the big 10. I think the conference that would come out ahead is whoever got texas and OU, hard to see them liking the big 12 after those moves by the big 10 and acc. My guess would be the pac 12 invites texas, texas tech, ou and ok state is the winner. I wouldn't be shocked if the sec also invited those 4 and be willing to jump to 18 with 3 pods of 6.

Because OU won't leave without Texas...

I always thought the B12 should have added BYU instead of WVU -
BYU is
1-better academics
2-even in football
3-maybe slightly negative in basketball

You'd have zero pressure to expand East and you could let the B1G/ACC and SEC fight it out amongst themselves while the B12 and Pac 12 stand pat at their smaller, happier numbers.

(05-21-2014 08:54 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  This whole thing lost me at WVU to the ACC. Has the ACC not made its position crystal clear about WVU?

I know UConn wants to move....but acting like the Big 12 GoR issues and ACC's disdain for WVU don't exist are foolishness.

There may not be unanimous disdain for WVU in the ACC as there was, say in 2003, but still believe its there, yes.

(05-21-2014 08:54 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  This whole thing lost me at WVU to the ACC. Has the ACC not made its position crystal clear about WVU?

I know UConn wants to move....but acting like the Big 12 GoR issues and ACC's disdain for WVU don't exist are foolishness.

the traditional ACC wvu attitudes was all before the loss of UMD and addition of Ville. personally I think those attitudes died with that major change.

(05-21-2014 01:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 08:54 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  This whole thing lost me at WVU to the ACC. Has the ACC not made its position crystal clear about WVU?

I know UConn wants to move....but acting like the Big 12 GoR issues and ACC's disdain for WVU don't exist are foolishness.

the traditional ACC wvu attitudes was all before the loss of UMD and addition of Ville. personally I think those attitudes died with that major change.

The attitudes at UNC, NC State, UVA and Duke have not changed (died) and may never. Just a lot of other players in the league now. Pitt is going to miss there number one gate for FB every other year.