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RE: ACC End Game
If ND joined , and that is a Big if, the ACC in Football, I could see ESPN kicking up the ACC contract by at least 5 million per school as that would be in the SEC, B1G range for National viewership overnight. They would love to bring down NBC.
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(05-18-2014 10:12 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Do you think the playoffs will expand to 6 or 8? I do.

Do you think they will give 6 autobids (5 powers + top non-power)? Assuming the majors don't separate from the rest, I think this would likely happen.

Do you think the autobids would have any impact on ND's thinking? I do, but I'm not suggesting it would change it enough for you/them to join a conference.

Yes, I think that it will expand to eight teams.

I think that it will be the top five conference champs and three wild cards.

As long as it is theoretically possible for ND to qualify as a wild card, I don't think that it will impact ND's status, at all.

Only a mandated conference only champions playoff will do that, in my opinion.
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(05-19-2014 05:39 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  If ND joined , and that is a Big if, the ACC in Football, I could see ESPN kicking up the ACC contract by at least 5 million per school as that would be in the SEC, B1G range for National viewership overnight. They would love to bring down NBC.


I think that if ND wanted to join, its one condition would be to carve out and keep the NBC deal.
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RE: ACC End Game
(05-19-2014 07:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 05:39 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  If ND joined , and that is a Big if, the ACC in Football, I could see ESPN kicking up the ACC contract by at least 5 million per school as that would be in the SEC, B1G range for National viewership overnight. They would love to bring down NBC.


I think that if ND wanted to join, its one condition would be to carve out and keep the NBC deal.

Or have ESPN match and or Up the Ante and keep separate TV plan ala Texas.
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(05-19-2014 07:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 05:39 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  If ND joined , and that is a Big if, the ACC in Football, I could see ESPN kicking up the ACC contract by at least 5 million per school as that would be in the SEC, B1G range for National viewership overnight. They would love to bring down NBC.


I think that if ND wanted to join, its one condition would be to carve out and keep the NBC deal.

I'd don't see why that would not be doable. ESPN would benefit from the additional ACC home games with ND and wouldn't have to pay ND a dime.

I don't see ND surrendering independence, though, unless joining a conference becomes either 1) the only way to qualify for the CFP or (possibly) 2) a substantially easier road to qualifying for the CFP than garnering an at large bid.
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Agree with all those who say that the ACC needs to stop acting like anything it can do is going entice Notre Dame into the conference. All that does is allow Notre Dame to leverage it's wants and desires without actually having to commit it's football program.

I actually can envision a scenario in which Notre Dame could decide to join the ACC in football, but it's not going to be about anything the ACC does, it will be outside forces and what Notre Dame feels is best for it's program. If and when that day comes, then the ACC should be willing to be flexible. As far as I'm concerned, other than requiring ND to play a full conference schedule, everything else can be on the table for discussion. But not one day before. Notre Dame needs to buy the cow if it wants the milk.
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I know how to get ND to join tomorrow. All we have to do is not have a name and change our logo to natural grass. The ND faithful will riot to join.
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You'd have a better chance of getting both Maryland (how I wish) and South Carolina back on board than ND. I still think your best bet is to flip West Virginia and Penn State, two large public schools. Of course this would be a long term project.
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I actually think ND will eventually join. It won't be for a while, though.
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(05-19-2014 10:12 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  You'd have a better chance of getting both Maryland (how I wish) and South Carolina back on board than ND. I still think your best bet is to flip West Virginia and Penn State, two large public schools. Of course this would be a long term project.

#15 = S Carolina
#16 = Maryland

Nirvana

(NOTE: unless Penn State wants to be #16 - sorry, Terps)
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(05-19-2014 07:21 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 07:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 05:39 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  If ND joined , and that is a Big if, the ACC in Football, I could see ESPN kicking up the ACC contract by at least 5 million per school as that would be in the SEC, B1G range for National viewership overnight. They would love to bring down NBC.


I think that if ND wanted to join, its one condition would be to carve out and keep the NBC deal.

Or have ESPN match and or Up the Ante and keep separate TV plan ala Texas.


Believe it or not, over the air is a big deal for ND.

They want every fan to be able to watch ND home games, even those without cable or satellite.
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Why the hell are people so caught up on adding South Carolina? They aren't that great of an addition. There are probably 15 better options.
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RE: ACC End Game
(05-19-2014 07:00 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-18-2014 10:12 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Do you think the playoffs will expand to 6 or 8? I do.

Do you think they will give 6 autobids (5 powers + top non-power)? Assuming the majors don't separate from the rest, I think this would likely happen.

Do you think the autobids would have any impact on ND's thinking? I do, but I'm not suggesting it would change it enough for you/them to join a conference.

Yes, I think that it will expand to eight teams.

I think that it will be the top five conference champs and three wild cards.

As long as it is theoretically possible for ND to qualify as a wild card, I don't think that it will impact ND's status, at all.

Only a mandated conference only champions playoff will do that, in my opinion.

There's no chance the non-power schools are left out of the auto-bid process, assuming FBS hasn't split.

I don't think you're being honest when you say conference auto-bids would have no impact "at all", but whatever.
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