Interesting take. I wonder how realistic? http://g5conferencenews.blogspot.com/

Not very.

^

I disagree with my Texas comrade. If BYU goes MWC or AAC that conference will be in a clear driver seat as the best of the G5. I'm not saying BYU is the GREATEST school ever. I just think they are the largest name not in a P5 conference. With the fan base they have it would be a big swing in "public opinion". You add BYU to either the MWC or AAC I think you get respect as the champ of that league when it comes to access slot and money.

My preference and my biased opinion is that BYU should join the AAC as I see our schools having a higher profile then the MWC (my biased opinion). However, a MWC with BYU I think would be tough for the AAC to claim we are the best.

(05-16-2014 11:50 AM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  ^

I disagree with my Texas comrade. If BYU goes MWC or AAC that conference will be in a clear driver seat as the best of the G5. I'm not saying BYU is the GREATEST school ever. I just think they are the largest name not in a P5 conference. With the fan base they have it would be a big swing in "public opinion". You add BYU to either the MWC or AAC I think you get respect as the champ of that league when it comes to access slot and money.

My preference and my biased opinion is that BYU should join the AAC as I see our schools having a higher profile then the MWC (my biased opinion). However, a MWC with BYU I think would be tough for the AAC to claim we are the best.

Agree. And I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been. If BYU goes the AAC route, it will be much easier to convince a few other MWC programs to defect for a western pod.

There is probably some possibility to it. I think Aresco knows it and is making moves with BYU now to give the AAC the best possible shot at landing them should they decide a conference home is necessary. It almost solely depends on what ESPN wants and is willing to pay for.

Also, has there been any decision on the academies? If the P5 rule that Army and Navy count that could shake things up to. My guess is that they'll rule in favor of the academies counting. Does Navy then stay committed to the AAC?

Some conspiracy theory here. If they (ACC & B1G) gave the nod to BYU they'd become even more of a prize for a G5. If they give the nod to Army and Navy, the AAC already has Navy. What happens if Aresco and Co. attract Army and BYU into the conference. Then they've acknowledged several AAC teams as "power" brands. Does that help vault the AAC? By excluding BYU and possibly including Army and Navy, maybe Navy stays independent and declines to join the AAC after all...

(05-16-2014 12:12 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Also, has there been any decision on the academies? If the P5 rule that Army and Navy count that could shake things up to. My guess is that they'll rule in favor of the academies counting. Does Navy then stay committed to the AAC?

Some conspiracy theory here. If they (ACC & B1G) gave the nod to BYU they'd become even more of a prize for a G5. If they give the nod to Army and Navy, the AAC already has Navy. What happens if Aresco and Co. attract Army and BYU into the conference. Then they've acknowledged several AAC teams as "power" brands. Does that help vault the AAC? By excluding BYU and possibly including Army and Navy, maybe Navy stays independent and declines to join the AAC after all...

Why would they acknowledge Army and Navy but not Air Force?

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Agree. And I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been. If BYU goes the AAC route, it will be much easier to convince a few other MWC programs to defect for a western pod.

Who says they haven't been? And how exactly has the AAC been courting BYU, other than the obvious "Please join our conference" talk?

(05-16-2014 12:12 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Some conspiracy theory here. If they (ACC & B1G) gave the nod to BYU they'd become even more of a prize for a G5.

True, but then BYU wouldn't need a conference and could say independent.

My personal opinion is that people are reading too much into the whole "Do BYU, Army & Navy count" thing.

I think those 3 schools were brought up because they were FBS independents (Navy still Indy 'til 2015), and since Notre Dame counted, would they?

I don't think adding BYU & Army, for instance, to the AAC would change anyone's opinion about the conference.

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:50 AM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  ^

I disagree with my Texas comrade. If BYU goes MWC or AAC that conference will be in a clear driver seat as the best of the G5. I'm not saying BYU is the GREATEST school ever. I just think they are the largest name not in a P5 conference. With the fan base they have it would be a big swing in "public opinion". You add BYU to either the MWC or AAC I think you get respect as the champ of that league when it comes to access slot and money.

My preference and my biased opinion is that BYU should join the AAC as I see our schools having a higher profile then the MWC (my biased opinion). However, a MWC with BYU I think would be tough for the AAC to claim we are the best.

Agree. And I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been. If BYU goes the AAC route, it will be much easier to convince a few other MWC programs to defect for a western pod.

If BYU happens to fall in our lap. I'd go for a western wing of

BYU
SDSU
Fresno
Air Force

Screw Boise , they had their chance. That said I would only go this route if it increases our TV payout to at least $6-8mil per school

Boise is done as a dominating program. Good run, but its over.

(05-16-2014 12:39 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:50 AM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  ^

I disagree with my Texas comrade. If BYU goes MWC or AAC that conference will be in a clear driver seat as the best of the G5. I'm not saying BYU is the GREATEST school ever. I just think they are the largest name not in a P5 conference. With the fan base they have it would be a big swing in "public opinion". You add BYU to either the MWC or AAC I think you get respect as the champ of that league when it comes to access slot and money.

My preference and my biased opinion is that BYU should join the AAC as I see our schools having a higher profile then the MWC (my biased opinion). However, a MWC with BYU I think would be tough for the AAC to claim we are the best.

Agree. And I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been. If BYU goes the AAC route, it will be much easier to convince a few other MWC programs to defect for a western pod.

If BYU happens to fall in our lap. I'd go for a western wing of

BYU
SDSU
Fresno
Air Force

Screw Boise , they had their chance. That said I would only go this route if it increases our TV payout to at least $6-8mil per school

I'm good with BYU, SDSU, and Fresno. The number 4 would be a toss up though. Agree on the Smurfs.

(05-16-2014 12:21 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 12:12 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Also, has there been any decision on the academies? If the P5 rule that Army and Navy count that could shake things up to. My guess is that they'll rule in favor of the academies counting. Does Navy then stay committed to the AAC?

Some conspiracy theory here. If they (ACC & B1G) gave the nod to BYU they'd become even more of a prize for a G5. If they give the nod to Army and Navy, the AAC already has Navy. What happens if Aresco and Co. attract Army and BYU into the conference. Then they've acknowledged several AAC teams as "power" brands. Does that help vault the AAC? By excluding BYU and possibly including Army and Navy, maybe Navy stays independent and declines to join the AAC after all...

Why would they acknowledge Army and Navy but not Air Force?

As of Now Army, Navy, BYU are Indy. AF is in a g5 conference(MW I believe). AF question is already answered.

(05-16-2014 01:00 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 12:21 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 12:12 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Also, has there been any decision on the academies? If the P5 rule that Army and Navy count that could shake things up to. My guess is that they'll rule in favor of the academies counting. Does Navy then stay committed to the AAC?

Some conspiracy theory here. If they (ACC & B1G) gave the nod to BYU they'd become even more of a prize for a G5. If they give the nod to Army and Navy, the AAC already has Navy. What happens if Aresco and Co. attract Army and BYU into the conference. Then they've acknowledged several AAC teams as "power" brands. Does that help vault the AAC? By excluding BYU and possibly including Army and Navy, maybe Navy stays independent and declines to join the AAC after all...

Why would they acknowledge Army and Navy but not Air Force?

As of Now Army, Navy, BYU are Indy. AF is in a g5 conference(MW I believe). AF question is already answered.

And Navy has a foot in the door of a G5...

(05-16-2014 12:23 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been.

Who says they haven't been?

Okay, show of hands: Does Anybody think that BYU is going to rejoin the MWC for football or MBB at any point in the next 10 years?

That bridge wasn't just burned, it was dynamited.

If BYU was planning on giving up independence, wouldn't they try to join the B12? The B12 expressed interest in BYU once and if the championship game deregulation goes through, they could take them as #11 without having a need for a #12 (deregulation could also potentially shut the door on BYU depending on how you look at it). I also wouldn't rule out the MWC in the Big 12 said "no thanks". The MWC did take Boise back with open arms and I'm sure they'd be willing to take BYU back as well. Furthermore, the uneven TV revenue sharing model in the MWC might be enticing for BYU.

That said, I don't see BYU giving up independence anytime soon. You have to remember, BYU is run by the Mormon church and they might want the Cougars to stay independent simply for the exposure/BYUtv.

(05-16-2014 12:39 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:50 AM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  ^

I disagree with my Texas comrade. If BYU goes MWC or AAC that conference will be in a clear driver seat as the best of the G5. I'm not saying BYU is the GREATEST school ever. I just think they are the largest name not in a P5 conference. With the fan base they have it would be a big swing in "public opinion". You add BYU to either the MWC or AAC I think you get respect as the champ of that league when it comes to access slot and money.

My preference and my biased opinion is that BYU should join the AAC as I see our schools having a higher profile then the MWC (my biased opinion). However, a MWC with BYU I think would be tough for the AAC to claim we are the best.

Agree. And I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been. If BYU goes the AAC route, it will be much easier to convince a few other MWC programs to defect for a western pod.

If BYU happens to fall in our lap. I'd go for a western wing of

BYU
SDSU
Fresno
Air Force

Screw Boise , they had their chance. That said I would only go this route if it increases our TV payout to at least $6-8mil per school

That sounds good. BYU & SDSU for sure & pick 2 of UNLV, Fresno State or Air Force. Get Boise State only if it increases TV money and the networks want it.

(05-16-2014 01:23 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 12:23 PM)Hotrod Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been.

Who says they haven't been?

Okay, show of hands: Does Anybody think that BYU is going to rejoin the MWC for football or MBB at any point in the next 10 years?

That bridge wasn't just burned, it was dynamited.

A reporter asked that question during the MW meetings.
"BYU and the MW have moved on" was the reply. Even with the changes now with the ACC and SEC counting BYU as a G5 program, they rather be Indy and have their BYUtv rebroadcast all the games.

I think it will be the last time that is asked.

(05-16-2014 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 11:50 AM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  ^

I disagree with my Texas comrade. If BYU goes MWC or AAC that conference will be in a clear driver seat as the best of the G5. I'm not saying BYU is the GREATEST school ever. I just think they are the largest name not in a P5 conference. With the fan base they have it would be a big swing in "public opinion". You add BYU to either the MWC or AAC I think you get respect as the champ of that league when it comes to access slot and money.

My preference and my biased opinion is that BYU should join the AAC as I see our schools having a higher profile then the MWC (my biased opinion). However, a MWC with BYU I think would be tough for the AAC to claim we are the best.

Agree. And I think the MWC better start courting BYU like the AAC has been. If BYU goes the AAC route, it will be much easier to convince a few other MWC programs to defect for a western pod.

Not really. I think the membership is set and nobody wants to move unless P5 conference comes calling. BYU left everyone and as did BSU but other than SDSU, no other team was willing to split from the MW and have hodge poge of conferences affiliations. The MW teams are now more tied with BSU than BYU since they went Indy.

(05-16-2014 12:51 PM)Bull Wrote:  Boise is done as a dominating program. Good run, but its over.

WAY too premature for that kind of assertion. Even a midst a coaching overhaul, Boise State still wrangled the 66th best recruiting class (par for the course during our run). Cincinnati had the 60th ranked class.

Far too early to write off the Broncos, particularly with our coaching staff, recruits, and ticked-off team we have right now. Last time we won 8 games in a season (low for Boise State), we went 13-0 the next year and won the Fiesta Bowl under first-year head coach Chris Petersen. Petersen's OC? Bryan Harsin, the new head man.