Quote:Bill Connelly ‏@SBN_BillC · 7m

Your position in cfb's hierarchy has more to do with what conference you selected 80 years ago than how you've played anytime recently.

This just goes to show how much the system is rigged... schools that have no business being a "power school" get to maintain that status because they were in a power conference for 80 years. Meanwhile, schools like Cincinnati, UCF, and Boise State are relegated to Go5 conferences because they didn't have the political pull to be placed in one of the old guard conferences when they were founded. It is a joke, and it will be what brings down college athletics as a whole.

(05-15-2014 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  

Quote:Bill Connelly ‏@SBN_BillC · 7m

Your position in cfb's hierarchy has more to do with what conference you selected 80 years ago than how you've played anytime recently.

This just goes to show how much the system is rigged... schools that have no business being a "power school" get to maintain that status because they were in a power conference for 80 years. Meanwhile, schools like Cincinnati, UCF, and Boise State are relegated to Go5 conferences because they didn't have the political pull to be placed in one of the old guard conferences when they were founded. It is a joke, and it will be what brings down college athletics as a whole.

Tulane, Cincinnati, UConn, USF, Temple, Houston, SMU have all been in "Power" conferences. Conversely not long ago Utah and TCU were getting a mil a year from their TV deal. It is not like we are talking D-I and D-II here. Some teams blend, and the only thing that doesn't is the money.

I just can't believe a poster is starting ANOTHER thread about this. the worst part is that cincy, usf, & uconn fans trying to take this stance is one of the most hypocritical things of all time. remember how bad boise st. and the wac/mwc schools got screwed during AQ-non AQ?????

who benefited the most because of that????? oh right cincy & to a smaller extent uconn.

(05-15-2014 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  

Quote:Bill Connelly ‏@SBN_BillC · 7m

Your position in cfb's hierarchy has more to do with what conference you selected 80 years ago than how you've played anytime recently.

This just goes to show how much the system is rigged... schools that have no business being a "power school" get to maintain that status because they were in a power conference for 80 years. Meanwhile, schools like Cincinnati, UCF, and Boise State are relegated to Go5 conferences because they didn't have the political pull to be placed in one of the old guard conferences when they were founded. It is a joke, and it will be what brings down college athletics as a whole.

Why would you place your school and Boise in the same category. Cinncy is a P5 level school Boise State was a junior college twenty five years ago. They are one of the five worst academically in FBS. The whole package is what is necessary.

Big whoop.

Americans love royalty, and they like people born to the manor.

Since the start of the BCS era, Temple is the only school that started in the AQ who isn't in the P5. Go back a decade earlier only SMU, Houston, Rice are no longer livin' rich.

The system is reasonably static because no one likes telling someone they can't be in the club any more and if you aren't making room by culling members, there isn't room to expand the club much.

(05-15-2014 09:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I just can't believe a poster is starting ANOTHER thread about this. the worst part is that cincy, usf, & uconn fans trying to take this stance is one of the most hypocritical things of all time. remember how bad boise st. and the wac/mwc schools got screwed during AQ-non AQ?????

who benefited the most because of that????? oh right cincy & to a smaller extent uconn.

Cincinnati ended up with the #3 BCS rating... how did they screw over the MWC? Pitt and UConn are the 2 schools who ended up screwing over the MWC. And Pitt is now living in a P5 conference while doing nothing of note in football since the 1980's. Even worse than Syracuse!

(05-15-2014 09:08 AM)MJG Wrote:  Why would you place your school and Boise in the same category. Cinncy is a P5 level school Boise State was a junior college twenty five years ago. They are one of the five worst academically in FBS. The whole package is what is necessary.

They have proven on the field that they are a football power (or were, that could be changing now thanks to the CFP). That was my point.

(05-15-2014 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Big whoop.

Americans love royalty, and they like people born to the manor.

Since the start of the BCS era, Temple is the only school that started in the AQ who isn't in the P5. Go back a decade earlier only SMU, Houston, Rice are no longer livin' rich.

The system is reasonably static because no one likes telling someone they can't be in the club any more and if you aren't making room by culling members, there isn't room to expand the club much.

If we had those same guidelines in college basketball we wouldn't have a Butler, VCU, or George Mason.

(05-15-2014 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Big whoop.

Americans love royalty, and they like people born to the manor.

Since the start of the BCS era, Temple is the only school that started in the AQ who isn't in the P5. Go back a decade earlier only SMU, Houston, Rice are no longer livin' rich.

The system is reasonably static because no one likes telling someone they can't be in the club any more and if you aren't making room by culling members, there isn't room to expand the club much.

I'd say Americans love an underdog much more than royalty.

I think it is more so is your school a state flagship or have the name of the state in your school title.

(05-15-2014 09:24 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Big whoop.

Americans love royalty, and they like people born to the manor.

Since the start of the BCS era, Temple is the only school that started in the AQ who isn't in the P5. Go back a decade earlier only SMU, Houston, Rice are no longer livin' rich.

The system is reasonably static because no one likes telling someone they can't be in the club any more and if you aren't making room by culling members, there isn't room to expand the club much.

I'd say Americans love an underdog much more than royalty.

Come live in SEC country when Boise is on a roll.

(05-15-2014 09:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:24 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Big whoop.

Americans love royalty, and they like people born to the manor.

Since the start of the BCS era, Temple is the only school that started in the AQ who isn't in the P5. Go back a decade earlier only SMU, Houston, Rice are no longer livin' rich.

The system is reasonably static because no one likes telling someone they can't be in the club any more and if you aren't making room by culling members, there isn't room to expand the club much.

I'd say Americans love an underdog much more than royalty.

Come live in SEC country when Boise is on a roll.

America doesn't only consist of SEC country. The real question is who the non-biased football fans rooted for.

(05-15-2014 09:24 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Big whoop.

Americans love royalty, and they like people born to the manor.

Since the start of the BCS era, Temple is the only school that started in the AQ who isn't in the P5. Go back a decade earlier only SMU, Houston, Rice are no longer livin' rich.

The system is reasonably static because no one likes telling someone they can't be in the club any more and if you aren't making room by culling members, there isn't room to expand the club much.

I'd say Americans love an underdog much more than royalty.

Except for college football.

In basketball they love Cinderella… folks eat it up watching Mercer knocking off Duke. In CFB they get angry when a non-traditional power dares to have a good season and heaven forbid, beat a traditional power school. A few years ago I was at my in-laws watching the Notre Dame/USF game (where the Bulls upset the Irish). My in-laws, who are not really passionate CFB fans, did not understand why the two schools were playing. When Notre Dame lost they made up every excuse in the book.

(05-15-2014 09:25 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  I think it is more so is your school a state flagship or have the name of the state in your school title.

That makes sense say schools like.....

Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, New Mexico, etc....

(05-15-2014 09:08 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  

Quote:Bill Connelly ‏@SBN_BillC · 7m

Your position in cfb's hierarchy has more to do with what conference you selected 80 years ago than how you've played anytime recently.

This just goes to show how much the system is rigged... schools that have no business being a "power school" get to maintain that status because they were in a power conference for 80 years. Meanwhile, schools like Cincinnati, UCF, and Boise State are relegated to Go5 conferences because they didn't have the political pull to be placed in one of the old guard conferences when they were founded. It is a joke, and it will be what brings down college athletics as a whole.

Why would you place your school and Boise in the same category. Cinncy is a P5 level school Boise State was a junior college twenty five years ago. They are one of the five worst academically in FBS. The whole package is what is necessary.

The Vandulls of all people should not be bringing up the old tired "junior college" jokes. Last I checked, Idaho just lost their flagship status not too long ago, Idaho is currently under academic sanctions from the NCAA, and Idaho's incoming freshman class has a lower average GPA than Boise State's. Not good for a university that has had everything handed to them whereas BSU has had to scratch and claw to get where they are.

(05-15-2014 09:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I just can't believe a poster is starting ANOTHER thread about this. the worst part is that cincy, usf, & uconn fans trying to take this stance is one of the most hypocritical things of all time. remember how bad boise st. and the wac/mwc schools got screwed during AQ-non AQ?????

who benefited the most because of that????? oh right cincy & to a smaller extent uconn.

Ironically, Syracuse never benefited because they could not get through a conference with UConn and Cinci.

(05-15-2014 09:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I just can't believe a poster is starting ANOTHER thread about this. the worst part is that cincy, usf, & uconn fans trying to take this stance is one of the most hypocritical things of all time. remember how bad boise st. and the wac/mwc schools got screwed during AQ-non AQ?????

who benefited the most because of that????? oh right cincy & to a smaller extent uconn.

Nobody's been screwed harder than us in conference realignment, and yet nobody cries harder than AAC fans (especially UConn fans).

(05-15-2014 10:14 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I just can't believe a poster is starting ANOTHER thread about this. the worst part is that cincy, usf, & uconn fans trying to take this stance is one of the most hypocritical things of all time. remember how bad boise st. and the wac/mwc schools got screwed during AQ-non AQ?????

who benefited the most because of that????? oh right cincy & to a smaller extent uconn.

Nobody's been screwed harder than us in conference realignment, and yet nobody cries harder than AAC fans (especially UConn fans).

Disagree BSU has been screwed harder than us. You guys were always in a Non-AQ conference. You actually never played a down of football in the Big East and left when the AQ tag was taken away. Cincinnati, UConn and USF were all-sports members for 9-10 years (UConn for the olympic sports for a much longer period of time). UC and UConn lost their historic rivals. UConn lost a ton of revenue they were making off their women's sports on SNY. Both UC and UConn lost coaches because of the conference shake-up.

(05-15-2014 09:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I just can't believe a poster is starting ANOTHER thread about this. the worst part is that cincy, usf, & uconn fans trying to take this stance is one of the most hypocritical things of all time. remember how bad boise st. and the wac/mwc schools got screwed during AQ-non AQ?????

who benefited the most because of that????? oh right cincy & to a smaller extent uconn.

Cincinnati has gone to 2 BCS games ever, once ranked 4th in the BCS and once ranked 12th. Pretty sure they didn't benefit more than the long list of teams who have made BCS games with half that resume.