(05-15-2014 12:14 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  A good way I tell people to see what we deal with, do this,

Design a 42 inch tall poster 20 inches wide, use 50 HQ 3200 dpi photos with many photoshop layers, import them in to Illustrator with 3 embedded type faces, and 30 or so graphic elements, 4 colors process with 2 PMS spot colors and see how big the files get. It may surprise you. Then add to that you'll need to make PDF's and run them through Hieldbrug preflight to send to press for plant making and generating color files.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

I've done maps that big on a large format printer we have here, but usually don't go above 600 dpi. It's not necessary for what we do.

(05-15-2014 12:28 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 12:14 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  A good way I tell people to see what we deal with, do this,

Design a 42 inch tall poster 20 inches wide, use 50 HQ 3200 dpi photos with many photoshop layers, import them in to Illustrator with 3 embedded type faces, and 30 or so graphic elements, 4 colors process with 2 PMS spot colors and see how big the files get. It may surprise you. Then add to that you'll need to make PDF's and run them through Hieldbrug preflight to send to press for plant making and generating color files.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

I've done maps that big on a large format printer we have here, but usually don't go above 600 dpi. It's not necessary for what we do.

We start with files like that, but usually reduce dpi to around 1200 to 1800 dpi. We to a lot of limited run high end lithographs and have started used using stochastic dot patterns for better quality. But, some of them we do keep the 3200 dpi for max quality. FYI, we do several College's schedule posters, I can't all say who we print for because of company policy, but we've done ECU, SDSU, VT to name a few, but we don't do the deign, which sucks, because I want to badly.

(05-14-2014 11:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:22 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:16 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:14 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  I will fight you to the death. PC is far superior.

Crunching numbers, sure, graphics? No chance in hell, go to any design firm, AD agency, or print shop. Guess what you'll see, MAC's everywhere and 1 PC for the idiots using word, and other windows programs, please don't get me started on Corel Draw. I use MAC's every day using multiple programs at once and it never crashes. Now have a 27 inch IMac, 2 terabytes of storage.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mathenis89/saved/3vZ0

This one will destroy any Mac you put in front of it.

Give my programmer 10 minutes and he kill any PC. When I say I for MAC, it's about the crap software Windows puts out and how easily it can be hack. MAC's OS not so much.

Macs aren't hacked and malware isn't developed for Mac because the small market share isn't worth the time to develop it.

Macs are unix boxes.... Huge upside to cracking them

I've never paid over $300 for a computer. The advantage is I can throw it in the trash. Can't imagine spending the money y'all are talking. That's almost a car.

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(05-15-2014 05:32 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I've never paid over $300 for a computer. The advantage is I can throw it in the trash. Can't imagine spending the money y'all are talking. That's almost a car.

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Yeah, I build my own. Just upgraded 7 year old computer to what I need now for about $350. Comparable retail would have been at least a $1000.

I've bought all mine from someone off craigslist. I don't even have one now. I have a Sumsung Smartphone, a smart Samsung Blu Ray, a Kindle Fire HD, and a work laptop. I don't need a personal computer.

(05-15-2014 08:09 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I've bought all mine from someone off craigslist. I don't even have one now. I have a Sumsung Smartphone, a smart Samsung Blu Ray, a Kindle Fire HD, and a work laptop. I don't need a personal computer.

I almost went that route; however, work laptop is locked down with security crap, wife has smartphone, laptop and tablet. I decided to upgrade PC so I have it like I want it. No kids on dad's PC, etc.

(05-14-2014 10:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  All viruses and malware can be prevented by using smart browsing habits.

Hmm that is not necessarily true. They can be attached to flash updates, bypass firewalls and be attached to emails.

(05-15-2014 08:06 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 05:32 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I've never paid over $300 for a computer. The advantage is I can throw it in the trash. Can't imagine spending the money y'all are talking. That's almost a car.

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Yeah, I build my own. Just upgraded 7 year old computer to what I need now for about $350. Comparable retail would have been at least a $1000.

The problem is that even after you upgrade memory and hard drives, your system is still not built to handle today's applications. Unless you upgrade the processor and mother board (which is about the same as buying new) you are still using outdated equipment.

(05-14-2014 11:14 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:04 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:03 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  All viruses and malware can be prevented by using smart browsing habits.

And, know that most viruses and malware are written to attack and take advantage of the hole in Windows programming and fire walls. Yes, MAC user here.

I will fight you to the death. PC is far superior.

Crunching numbers, sure, graphics? No chance in hell, go to any design firm, AD agency, or print shop. Guess what you'll see, MAC's everywhere and 1 PC for the idiots using word, and other windows programs, please don't get me started on Corel Draw. I use MAC's every day using multiple programs at once and it never crashes. Now have a 27 inch IMac, 2 terabytes of storage.

OH! You're a real winner

(05-14-2014 10:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the hackers that really don't care

Looks like you sucked two big nerds in to argue about who has the biggest hard drive for two and a half pages. Well done.

Yes I let my inner nerd out a bit. We all do at times.

It's at best a half truth to say "windows gets hacked more because more people use it"... It discounts all fundimentals of Engineering and logic.

More people die in POS cars than Volvo's.... It's only *PARTLY* because more people drive POS cars. Even if 50% of cars were POS and 50% were Volvo's more peope would die in POS cars because of the engineering

UNIX is a better engineered OS that Windows (though in fairness MS has closed the gap since 2003). If the two had equal market share there would still me more problems with hackers on windows.

(05-15-2014 08:32 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the hackers that really don't care

Looks like you sucked two big nerds in to argue about who has the biggest hard drive for two and a half pages. Well done.

Computers are the present and future.

Most careers. Most applications. Most of the world is run on computers.

Calling me a nerd for being knowledgeable in what is a large part of my career and life isn't all that insulting. But your ignorance to computers and computer applications is very telling.

(05-15-2014 10:53 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:32 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the hackers that really don't care

Looks like you sucked two big nerds in to argue about who has the biggest hard drive for two and a half pages. Well done.

Computers are the present and future.

Most careers. Most applications. Most of the world is run on computers.

Calling me a nerd for being knowledgeable in what is a large part of my career and life isn't all that insulting. But your ignorance to computers and computer applications is very telling.

Oh mathpenis. Wah Waaaaaah.

I've always preferred MACS. When I turn them on, they work. Every time. Though I don't do anything fancy with them.