Some G5 are better than some P5 but they are already in so it has no realignment value.

C - USA
UTEP
UTSA
Marshall

AAC

UCONN
UCF
Houston

MWC
SDSU
Fresno State
Boise State

MAC

OHIO
NIU
Akron

Sun Belt

ULL
ARKANSAS ST
Troy

(05-14-2014 07:24 AM)MJG Wrote:  Some G5 are better than some P5 but they are already in so it has no realignment value.

C - USA
UTEP
UTSA
Marshall

AAC

UCONN
UCF
Houston

MWC
SDSU
Fresno State
Boise State

MAC

OHIO
NIU
Akron

Sun Belt

ULL
ARKANSAS ST
Troy

Can not compare the AAC to the Sun Belt for facilities are light years ahead. Louisiana is working on catching up but the best Sun Belt team would be near the bottom in the AAC for facilities.

This makes it seem like schools like East Carolina, South Florida, etc. are on the same level as Sun Belt and C-USA schools and can be beat out by Arkansas State or Northern Illinois when it comes to facilities.

While UTSA is a great add to C-USA, they play FB in a rented stadium and they need a new basketball arena badly. So they should not be on a best facility list. SDSU also plays in a rented stadium, one that would be torn down and replaced if the city of San Diego had the money to do so.

Agree with Miner, UTSA shouldn't be on the list. They also do not have an IPF.

The AlamoDome is a really nice facility and gameday is a great environment though. Every CUSA fan should attempt to make San Antonio for a road trip. Where else can you walk from your hotel on the Riverwalk, catch a pregame meal n drink while a Mariachi Band plays, talk some smack with some UTSA fans and then walk in shorts/T-shirt to the game in November?

sorry but WTF. BSU may be a good football program but they are one of the poorest schools in FBS.

AAC does not belong in this list. Not like the others.

left]my list is just to get the discussion going.

Does not matter if AAC is light years ahead of SBC every team plays two thirds of their schedule in conference.

So Fresno State recruits vs Utah State not Memphis or UConn.
SO THE DISCUSSION IS WHO IS CLEARLY AT THE TOP OF

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I guess the number doesn't really matter either if five programs stand out vs the other conference mates facilities wise. When it comes to realignment the only P5 candidates are either MWC or AAC. That would trickle down with remaining conference's back filling .

(05-14-2014 09:10 AM)MJG Wrote:  left]my list is just to get the discussion going.

Does not matter if AAC is light years ahead of SBC every team plays two thirds of their schedule in conference.

So Fresno State recruits vs Utah State not Memphis or UConn.
SO THE DISCUSSION IS WHO IS CLEARLY AT THE TOP OF

EACH CONFERENCE[/align]

Well I think all of these are debatable. I'd put our facilities up to anyone in our conference.

(05-14-2014 09:15 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:10 AM)MJG Wrote:  left]my list is just to get the discussion going.

Does not matter if AAC is light years ahead of SBC every team plays two thirds of their schedule in conference.

So Fresno State recruits vs Utah State not Memphis or UConn.
SO THE DISCUSSION IS WHO IS CLEARLY AT THE TOP OF

EACH CONFERENCE[/align]

Well I think all of these are debatable. I'd put our facilities up to anyone in our conference.

My guess is ECU, Memphis, UCONN, Cincinnati Houston first tier. Second would include Tulsa , temple, Tulane for a clear divide. The top tier having no real advantage against each other . The second tier can still compete it is just a little harder to maintain success.

can AAC fans take their "stop calling us a g5 conference because we are not a g5 conference" BS and keep it on the AAC board?

(05-14-2014 09:29 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:15 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:10 AM)MJG Wrote:  left]my list is just to get the discussion going.

Does not matter if AAC is light years ahead of SBC every team plays two thirds of their schedule in conference.

So Fresno State recruits vs Utah State not Memphis or UConn.
SO THE DISCUSSION IS WHO IS CLEARLY AT THE TOP OF

EACH CONFERENCE[/align]

Well I think all of these are debatable. I'd put our facilities up to anyone in our conference.

My guess is ECU, Memphis, UCONN, Cincinnati Houston first tier. Second would include Tulsa , temple, Tulane for a clear divide. The top tier having no real advantage against each other . The second tier can still compete it is just a little harder to maintain success.

SMU belongs in your first tier

(05-14-2014 09:34 AM)john01992 Wrote:  can AAC fans take their "stop calling us a g5 conference because we are not a g5 conference" BS and keep it on the AAC board?

No

What is the metric being used here? Measuring the G5 isn't the same as measuring the high end of the P5. The size and quality of the facilities vary dramatically in the G5. So, are you better off with smaller but nicer facilities or larger ones that are a bit older?

I guess what I was looking for is how each conference has a divide.

(05-14-2014 09:39 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:34 AM)john01992 Wrote:  can AAC fans take their "stop calling us a g5 conference because we are not a g5 conference" BS and keep it on the AAC board?

No

(05-14-2014 09:34 AM)john01992 Wrote:  can AAC fans take their "stop calling us a g5 conference because we are not a g5 conference" BS and keep it on the AAC board?

I think it's similar to how the top P5 schools view the P5 middle-of-the-pack/bottomfeeders. They may play in the same "high resource group" but are on another level than many within that same group.

To me the AAC and the somewhat the MWC are tweeners. Some of the teams are very much like P5 schools and others in the conference...not so much. I really hope Football retains about 80-90 big time schools.

(05-14-2014 07:51 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  SDSU also plays in a rented stadium, one that would be torn down and replaced if the city of San Diego had the money to do so.

I think SDSU's facilities for most sports except football are really good. I've been to their baseball stadium and it's very nice. Their basketball arena is also relatively new. Football is their big vulnerability because SDSU is completely dependent on the Chargers staying in San Diego. If the Chargers get a new stadium that is close enough to SDSU, then the Aztecs are set. If the Chargers leave SD, though, it's unlikely that the city would continue to maintain the stadium, and SDSU would have to raise north of $100 million to either take over the stadium or build their own on campus.

(05-14-2014 10:05 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:34 AM)john01992 Wrote:  can AAC fans take their "stop calling us a g5 conference because we are not a g5 conference" BS and keep it on the AAC board?

I think it's similar to how the top P5 schools view the P5 middle-of-the-pack/bottomfeeders. They may play in the same "high resource group" but are on another level than many within that same group.

it's one thing to look like a big fish after sharing the pond with little fish ==> that doesn't mean you are a bigger fish the the vast majority of fish from the bigger pond.

TCU & wvu shoulda put a cap on this argument long ago.