(05-12-2014 09:46 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  By going from coast to coast and adding all the Division 1 military schools for football. The AAC would truly be the American Conference.

This could happen by adding San Diego State, Air Force, and BYU as full members and Army for football only. San Diego State, Air Force, and BYU add great football and basketball and Army adds its football history plus the rivalry it has with Air Force and Navy and brings the Commander and Chief trophy to the AAC. By adding BYU, SDSU, Air Force, and Army it would be hard for the P5 not to bring the American along with them if they decide to break away from the G4 since I doubt the military schools or BYU will feel like they should be left behind.

I think San Diego State would come back and would love to be in the basketball conference with UCONN, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Cincy, etc. BYU would join for bowl slots and a chance at access bowl plus having western partners in SDSU and Air Force and the great basketball of the AAC (better than the WCC) Air Force would join to be with Army and Navy and have western schools in BYU and SDSU, plus be in a great basketball conference.

Football Divisions
EAST
UCONN
Army
Temple
Navy
Cincinnati
East Carolina
UCF
South Florida

WEST
Memphis
Tulane
Houston
SMU
Tulane
Air Force
BYU
San Diego State

7 Divisional Games plus 2 crossover games. 9 games total.

Basketball Divisions
EAST
UCONN
Temple
Cincinnati
Memphis
East Carolina
UCF
South Florida

WEST
Tulane
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Air Force
BYU
San Diego State

19 Conference Games. Home and Away with division teams (12 games) plus 7 divisional crossover games.

**Plus with addition of western teams gives the American some late night spots on ESPN for Saturday night games and for basketball games that can start at 10 pm eastern for 7 or 8 in Mountain or Pacific.

**Army/Navy game can be played on Rivalry Weekend on CBS before the SEC game. Game still in Philadelphia and gives the American game on CBS.

**Why add more teams and have more mouths to feed? Price for the AAC could go up with addition of more markets in Colorado, Utah, San Diego, and New York; by having later night games on west coast gives ESPN more live games later on prime time, BYU large fan support, Military Academies fan support, and military academies rivalries. Plus with SDSU and BYU coming in could easily be one of the best basketball conferences in the country.

That eastern division looks great. The western division is way too spread out, over 1000s of miles and 3 time zones. In an allsports conference, even if you kept olympic sports to within-division, the west would have a difficult time, and a significant disadvantage to the east division. I just don't see it working.

If you HAVE to do this, it would almost be wiser to add more and go west-central-east. No, bad idea all around, just stick with the AAC. We're in great shape. Pluck Army and/or BYU if you can, but nothing else. That's why we're sticking at 12, reserving slots 13, 14 for those two... maybe someday.

(05-13-2014 10:02 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 09:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 08:41 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 08:33 AM)john01992 Wrote:  1. how did you make that pic in the OP

2. this idea won't work because:

-it brings more change to the AAC at a time when it needs stability and less movement

-these are a group of schools that have a longstanding history of demanding special treatment, trying to screw each other over, and conditional membership. they are essentially the b12 of g5 conferences and i'd rather not see the AAC invite that kind of attitude into the conference

-BYU & CSU are not joining under this scenario. BYU won't join a conference unless it is perceived as equal to a p5 conference because they do not want to be in an inferior conference to utah. colorado state is the rare school that is the undisputed #1 rival of 3 different schools. In this setup they would all become OOC rivalries. On top of that you are asking them to break from a conference they founded and contains a number of schools that they have historic ties with. that is too much of a sacrifice for CSU to make for the gain of a lateral conference move.

For someone who says he doesn't care about this conference or any member school, you sure do post a hell of a lot on this board.

when did i ever say that?

Actually, you may never have said it. So...Do you care about this conference or any member school, John?

i like the conference as a whole, especially uconn. the only change I would make is for the conference to somehow bring rice into the fold.

BYU and AFA or Army, yes.

Nationwide conference, ehh, not excited about that, although I was excited about SDSU. They wanted to be in BE/AAC wholeheartedly, but were left with little choice once Boise left.

(05-13-2014 01:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:02 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 09:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 08:41 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 08:33 AM)john01992 Wrote:  1. how did you make that pic in the OP

2. this idea won't work because:

-it brings more change to the AAC at a time when it needs stability and less movement

-these are a group of schools that have a longstanding history of demanding special treatment, trying to screw each other over, and conditional membership. they are essentially the b12 of g5 conferences and i'd rather not see the AAC invite that kind of attitude into the conference

-BYU & CSU are not joining under this scenario. BYU won't join a conference unless it is perceived as equal to a p5 conference because they do not want to be in an inferior conference to utah. colorado state is the rare school that is the undisputed #1 rival of 3 different schools. In this setup they would all become OOC rivalries. On top of that you are asking them to break from a conference they founded and contains a number of schools that they have historic ties with. that is too much of a sacrifice for CSU to make for the gain of a lateral conference move.

For someone who says he doesn't care about this conference or any member school, you sure do post a hell of a lot on this board.

when did i ever say that?

Actually, you may never have said it. So...Do you care about this conference or any member school, John?

i like the conference as a whole, especially uconn. the only change I would make is for the conference to somehow bring rice into the fold.

I'm glad you like the conference as a whole. But lolno regarding Rice. Because f*ck Rice.

(05-13-2014 01:42 PM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:02 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 09:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 08:41 AM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  For someone who says he doesn't care about this conference or any member school, you sure do post a hell of a lot on this board.

when did i ever say that?

Actually, you may never have said it. So...Do you care about this conference or any member school, John?

i like the conference as a whole, especially uconn. the only change I would make is for the conference to somehow bring rice into the fold.

I'm glad you like the conference as a whole. But lolno regarding Rice. Because f*ck Rice.

Rice is a great school but adds nothing to the conference. Houston already has a hard time penetrating the local market.

This is thinking too small.

We need to invite McGill University from the Quebec University Football League and rebrand as the Continental Athletic Conference.

(05-13-2014 01:46 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Rice is a great school but adds nothing to the conference. Houston already has a hard time penetrating the local market.

In theory, that would be the purpose of adding a second team, to help with market penetration. I am not proposing Rice be added, just that your objection is the one avenue and method they have to even suggesting they should be invited.

(05-12-2014 09:46 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  By going from coast to coast and adding all the Division 1 military schools for football. The AAC would truly be the American Conference.

I would say no, as the financial costs would outweigh the benefits. At best, our TV deal would be equal to what it is now, but travel expenses would rise significantly.

Plus, fans would be appalled. Nobody at SDSU wants to see USF, and vice-versa. There is just no mutual athletic interest there.

I like rice because of their facilities, academics & history.

That shipped sail when we added Tulsa & Tulame. We would need to get UNLV, Fresno, Boise, AF, NM, Col St. to form a true western division. 16(14)

(05-13-2014 02:00 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:46 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Rice is a great school but adds nothing to the conference. Houston already has a hard time penetrating the local market.

In theory, that would be the purpose of adding a second team, to help with market penetration. I am not proposing Rice be added, just that your objection is the one avenue and method they have to even suggesting they should be invited.

The market is just too congested, no way a school of Rice's size can justify diluting the league. Houston's undergrads population is large and local, they can make it happen.

(05-13-2014 01:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  This is thinking too small.

We need to invite McGill University from the Quebec University Football League and rebrand as the Continental Athletic Conference.

Very true. If we invite them, we should invite the Acadia Axemen along as their travel partner. Why? Because they are called the freakin' AMEMEN! THAT's why!

Awesomeness:
http://acadiaathletics.ca/sports/fball/index

(05-13-2014 03:00 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  This is thinking too small.

We need to invite McGill University from the Quebec University Football League and rebrand as the Continental Athletic Conference.

Very true. If we invite them, we should invite the Acadia Axemen along as their travel partner. Why? Because they are called the freakin' AMEMEN! THAT's why!

Awesomeness:
http://acadiaathletics.ca/sports/fball/index

That's what I'm talking aboot!

THey have a player from Brazil and another from China

(05-13-2014 03:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  THey have a player from Brazil and another from China

Even better. International Athletic Conference.

Costs too much, and there's zero chance of any decent rivalries building up in this type of league. Let the current 12 get some momentum with each other before throwing in schools two time zones away.