The best part is: CUSA schools must think AAC schools are just going to stay stagnant or decline. How do they think they will bridge the gap?

(05-13-2014 02:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The best part is: CUSA schools must think AAC schools are just going to stay stagnant or decline. How do they think they will bridge the gap?

I dunno... How do you think we will bridge the gap?

So far, all I have heard is a bad take-off on the "South Park" underpants gnomes:
1. Gather underpants.
2. ???
3. Profit.

There is a basic assumption on these boards that magically the next media contract will increase at-least five-fold...just because. As a matter of fact, the whole "'Tweener" idea depends on this single assumption--that the AAC will somehow garner a significantly GREATER amount of money than the other G5 conferences. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, the gap "between" the rest of the G5 and the AAC is far, far, far smaller than the gap "between" the AAC and the P5 conferences. So, yeah... I guess the AAC is a "tweener," just like Salt Lake City is "between" Los Angeles and New York. But practically speaking...

So your question is just as pertinent for the AAC to answer. Yes, CUSA, the SBC, the MAC, and the MWC (in that order, I think) are going to fall-out of competition because they will not be able to keep up. But the AAC is MORE SIMILAR to them than the AAC is to the P5.

So, how is the AAC going to bridge the gap?

I think these guys are trying to copy this onehttp://g5conferencenews.blogspot.com/, which someone on the Conf USA message board posted a comment about a few days ago.

(05-13-2014 02:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 02:05 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  So I read an article in the blog and came across this:

"Five reasons CUSA will be better than the rest in Five Years. Obviously, I am not saying conference USA will surge past the SBC, MAC or even the MWC and AAC. Sorry, yes I am. I see three of the G5’s pulling ahead, on a limited basis. The realty is the American, Conference USA and the Mountain West will surge to the top. These three share many of the same characteristics...".


First of all, CUSA is not going to be able to compete long term with the AAC or MWC, because CUSA schools are broke. In order to be successful long term you have to have the money to put into facilities and into coaches, which is why CUSA will not be able to compete.

If you think the author is wrong about C-USA's prospects, go over to this G5 blog and post your point of view. That's what it's for.

Sheesh!

No I don't think so. I would rather just stay on this board and read your constant "we are doomed" nonsense in thread after thread.

Sorry you can't sit with us

(05-13-2014 02:31 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 02:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The best part is: CUSA schools must think AAC schools are just going to stay stagnant or decline. How do they think they will bridge the gap?

I dunno... How do you think we will bridge the gap?

So far, all I have heard is a bad take-off on the "South Park" underpants gnomes:
1. Gather underpants.
2. ???
3. Profit.

There is a basic assumption on these boards that magically the next media contract will increase at-least five-fold...just because. As a matter of fact, the whole "'Tweener" idea depends on this single assumption--that the AAC will somehow garner a significantly GREATER amount of money than the other G5 conferences. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, the gap "between" the rest of the G5 and the AAC is far, far, far smaller than the gap "between" the AAC and the P5 conferences. So, yeah... I guess the AAC is a "tweener," just like Salt Lake City is "between" Los Angeles and New York. But practically speaking...

So your question is just as pertinent for the AAC to answer. Yes, CUSA, the SBC, the MAC, and the MWC (in that order, I think) are going to fall-out of competition because they will not be able to keep up. But the AAC is MORE SIMILAR to them than the AAC is to the P5.

So, how is the AAC going to bridge the gap?

Went to Fiu in person and they have a long way to go. They had maybe a thousand students in attendance and near nobody else for fiu. I couldn't even find an am station that carried games for fiu. Looks like Internet only broadcasts? Our radio crew hung out in a tent and it was a constant radio joke.
Not sure if fau has the same problems?

To even argue that c-usa teams are at the same level is laughable. I do think odu has potential for the record.

(05-13-2014 03:31 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Went to Fiu in person and they have a long way to go. They had maybe a thousand students in attendance and near nobody else for fiu. I couldn't even find an am station that carried games for fiu. Looks like Internet only broadcasts? Our radio crew hung out in a tent and it was a constant radio joke.
Not sure if fau has the same problems?

To even argue that c-usa teams are at the same level is laughable. I do think odu has potential for the record.

Actually Rice has the most potential, but after Rice my guess would be ODU, Charlotte and UTSA; but none of those schools have really felt the full financial impact of how draining FBS football can become, because they are all recent call ups from FCS. From what I recall about ODU they rely very heavily on student fees to the tune of 60% or 70% or greater.

Started a debate....

Thanks to those that have shared insights into the future of the G5 segment of the blog. The blog/post was created with the intention to stimulate interest. Everyone has a different opinion, and that is why we all feel the need to defend or communicate their opinions. My goal was never to offend anyone on the AAC board. We the voters (9 people at that time) submitted 25 teams on a poll to create a preseason top 25 - G5; we decided to post the outcome. The fact that the poll is skewed because of who voted and who they voted for speaks more to a fans prejudice. The reality is the more diverse the representation we get the more accurate the outcome will become. We hope to have a weekly poll. It is all in fun.

Did I mention we are old, we need new blood.

Thanks for reading.

(05-13-2014 02:31 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 02:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The best part is: CUSA schools must think AAC schools are just going to stay stagnant or decline. How do they think they will bridge the gap?

I dunno... How do you think we will bridge the gap?

So far, all I have heard is a bad take-off on the "South Park" underpants gnomes:
1. Gather underpants.
2. ???
3. Profit.

There is a basic assumption on these boards that magically the next media contract will increase at-least five-fold...just because. As a matter of fact, the whole "'Tweener" idea depends on this single assumption--that the AAC will somehow garner a significantly GREATER amount of money than the other G5 conferences. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, the gap "between" the rest of the G5 and the AAC is far, far, far smaller than the gap "between" the AAC and the P5 conferences. So, yeah... I guess the AAC is a "tweener," just like Salt Lake City is "between" Los Angeles and New York. But practically speaking...

So your question is just as pertinent for the AAC to answer. Yes, CUSA, the SBC, the MAC, and the MWC (in that order, I think) are going to fall-out of competition because they will not be able to keep up. But the AAC is MORE SIMILAR to them than the AAC is to the P5.

So, how is the AAC going to bridge the gap?

The MLS just got a 90 million dollar per year contract. Our football and basketball games have higher ratings than the MLS has. The Big East gets 4 million per team per year for just basketball. Again---our ratings were actually higher than the Big East ratings.

The AAC was barely clinging to life when that contract was signed and Aresco had to have a contract quick---or the AAC may have lost the Texas teams to the MW as well. The AAC is not likely going to get 10-12 million when they renegotiate. Can they get 5-8 million---I see that as clearly possible based upon the two recent contracts that the AAC is currently out performing. If the rest of the G5 is getting around 1 million a team and we are getting 7 million a team---I'd say that's a "tweener conference". It may be grouped with the G5 for playoff purposes---but it would obviously be different from the others.

(05-13-2014 04:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 02:31 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 02:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The best part is: CUSA schools must think AAC schools are just going to stay stagnant or decline. How do they think they will bridge the gap?

I dunno... How do you think we will bridge the gap?

So far, all I have heard is a bad take-off on the "South Park" underpants gnomes:
1. Gather underpants.
2. ???
3. Profit.

There is a basic assumption on these boards that magically the next media contract will increase at-least five-fold...just because. As a matter of fact, the whole "'Tweener" idea depends on this single assumption--that the AAC will somehow garner a significantly GREATER amount of money than the other G5 conferences. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, the gap "between" the rest of the G5 and the AAC is far, far, far smaller than the gap "between" the AAC and the P5 conferences. So, yeah... I guess the AAC is a "tweener," just like Salt Lake City is "between" Los Angeles and New York. But practically speaking...

So your question is just as pertinent for the AAC to answer. Yes, CUSA, the SBC, the MAC, and the MWC (in that order, I think) are going to fall-out of competition because they will not be able to keep up. But the AAC is MORE SIMILAR to them than the AAC is to the P5.

So, how is the AAC going to bridge the gap?

The MLS just got a 90 million dollar per year contract. Our football and basketball games have higher ratings than the MLS has. The Big East gets 4 million per team per year for just basketball. Again---our ratings were actually higher than the Big East ratings.

The AAC was barely clinging to life when that contract was signed and Aresco had to have a contract quick---or the AAC may have lost the Texas teams to the MW as well. The AAC is not likely going to get 10-12 million when they renegotiate. Can they get 5-8 million---I see that as clearly possible based upon the two recent contracts that the AAC is currently out performing. If the rest of the G5 is getting around 1 million a team and we are getting 7 million a team---I'd say that's a "tweener conference". It may be grouped with the G5 for playoff purposes---but it would obviously be different from the others.

Wasn't our ratings 4x better than the big east? Their ratings were non existent.

(05-13-2014 02:31 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So your question is just as pertinent for the AAC to answer. Yes, CUSA, the SBC, the MAC, and the MWC (in that order, I think) are going to fall-out of competition because they will not be able to keep up. But the AAC is MORE SIMILAR to them than the AAC is to the P5.

So, how is the AAC going to bridge the gap?

I think it's more likely that C-USA will bridge the gap between it and the AAC than the AAC will with the P5. For one thing, as you note, the C-USA/AAC gap is far, far smaller in terms of media money.

For another, the gap between us and the P5 is about to explode, as our paltry new media deal and their massive new media deals and playoff moneys kick in.

Plus, does anyone really think the other G5 are just going to sit around and stagnate or decline? That only the AAC is committed to getting better?

(05-13-2014 06:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 02:31 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So your question is just as pertinent for the AAC to answer. Yes, CUSA, the SBC, the MAC, and the MWC (in that order, I think) are going to fall-out of competition because they will not be able to keep up. But the AAC is MORE SIMILAR to them than the AAC is to the P5.

So, how is the AAC going to bridge the gap?

I think it's more likely that C-USA will bridge the gap between it and the AAC than the AAC will with the P5. For one thing, as you note, the C-USA/AAC gap is far, far smaller in terms of media money.

For another, the gap between us and the P5 is about to explode, as our paltry new media deal and their massive new media deals and playoff moneys kick in.

Plus, does anyone really think the other G5 are just going to sit around and stagnate or decline? That only the AAC is committed to getting better?

not bad quo, 6/10 still way below your capabilities.

(05-13-2014 04:11 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  We the voters (9 people at that time) submitted 25 teams on a poll to create a preseason top 25 - G5; we decided to post the outcome. The fact that the poll is skewed because of who voted and who they voted for speaks more to a fans prejudice.

Thanks for posting the link, I think you guys are doing a great job providing some reasonably in-depth evaluations of G5 schools, including the AAC, that we aren't likely to get a lot of from the mainstream sports media.

Well done!

(05-13-2014 01:54 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:33 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:49 AM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  I have been a member of the boards for a few years. Recently a group of us started a blog "ODU Fan Forum", We have incorporated a G5 section and if any would like to contribute to that section in the future, PM us. Here is a link to a blog posted yesterday. If you have interest, check it out. Remember these are old people blogging.

Link .... http://wp.me/p4wbqJ-8h

Oldtimer

Be prepared for ego-bruised fanboys around here to denounce you for stating what is obvious to the athletic world- that the AAC is part of the G5. I apologize on behalf of the saner elements on this forum.

Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

I guess we aspire to higher than the G4.

I aspire for USF to be in the SEC. I live in Baton Rouge, and it would be a dream come true for me to root for USF in a sea of 90,000 purple-clad fans at Tiger Stadium as we play an SEC conference game against LSU. Failing that, the ACC. I would love the first outcome and the second would also generate a celebration in my man cave.

But, aspirations and reality are two different things. I am sane enough to realize that USF is not currently in the SEC or the ACC, rather we are in the AAC, a G5 conference.

That seems to be the main difference around here - between those who can separate aspiration from actual circumstances, i.e., fantasy from reality.

Why did you decide to pick USF fans to habitually embarrass? I mean what did they ever do to you quo? Serious question. No one believes you are a USF fan. Something in the AAC has emotionally and intellectually comprimised you. Really I am trying to be helpful, reaching out. Please let us help you get through this pain.

(05-13-2014 04:11 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  Started a debate....

Thanks to those that have shared insights into the future of the G5 segment of the blog. The blog/post was created with the intention to stimulate interest. Everyone has a different opinion, and that is why we all feel the need to defend or communicate their opinions. My goal was never to offend anyone on the AAC board. We the voters (9 people at that time) submitted 25 teams on a poll to create a preseason top 25 - G5; we decided to post the outcome. The fact that the poll is skewed because of who voted and who they voted for speaks more to a fans prejudice. The reality is the more diverse the representation we get the more accurate the outcome will become. We hope to have a weekly poll. It is all in fun.

Did I mention we are old, we need new blood.

Thanks for reading.

Thanks ODU Oldtimer.

(05-13-2014 06:43 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:54 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:33 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 11:49 AM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  I have been a member of the boards for a few years. Recently a group of us started a blog "ODU Fan Forum", We have incorporated a G5 section and if any would like to contribute to that section in the future, PM us. Here is a link to a blog posted yesterday. If you have interest, check it out. Remember these are old people blogging.

Link .... http://wp.me/p4wbqJ-8h

Oldtimer

Be prepared for ego-bruised fanboys around here to denounce you for stating what is obvious to the athletic world- that the AAC is part of the G5. I apologize on behalf of the saner elements on this forum.

Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

I guess we aspire to higher than the G4.

I aspire for USF to be in the SEC. I live in Baton Rouge, and it would be a dream come true for me to root for USF in a sea of 90,000 purple-clad fans at Tiger Stadium as we play an SEC conference game against LSU. Failing that, the ACC. I would love the first outcome and the second would also generate a celebration in my man cave.

But, aspirations and reality are two different things. I am sane enough to realize that USF is not currently in the SEC or the ACC, rather we are in the AAC, a G5 conference.

That seems to be the main difference around here - between those who can separate aspiration from actual circumstances, i.e., fantasy from reality.

Why did you decide to pick USF fans to habitually embarrass? I mean what did they ever do to you quo? Serious question. No one believes you are a USF fan.

Are these the same tinfoil hats who think I and Bearcats1 are the same person?

Sorry... The AAC isn't interested.

(05-13-2014 06:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 06:43 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:54 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:33 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 01:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Be prepared for ego-bruised fanboys around here to denounce you for stating what is obvious to the athletic world- that the AAC is part of the G5. I apologize on behalf of the saner elements on this forum.

Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

I guess we aspire to higher than the G4.

I aspire for USF to be in the SEC. I live in Baton Rouge, and it would be a dream come true for me to root for USF in a sea of 90,000 purple-clad fans at Tiger Stadium as we play an SEC conference game against LSU. Failing that, the ACC. I would love the first outcome and the second would also generate a celebration in my man cave.

But, aspirations and reality are two different things. I am sane enough to realize that USF is not currently in the SEC or the ACC, rather we are in the AAC, a G5 conference.

That seems to be the main difference around here - between those who can separate aspiration from actual circumstances, i.e., fantasy from reality.

Why did you decide to pick USF fans to habitually embarrass? I mean what did they ever do to you quo? Serious question. No one believes you are a USF fan.

Are these the same tinfoil hats who think I and Bearcats1 are the same person?

Nah... Truth be told "Bearcats1" is the same guy as "BearcatsBounce"...

Is there a Tweener 1 blog?