Interesting stat from UCFSports.com poster Auggie:

In 2 of the last 3 NFL Drafts (2012 & 2014), UCF had the first NFL Draft pick of all major schools in Florida.

Josh Robinson, 66th overall in 2012

Blake Bortles 3rd overall in 2014

(05-10-2014 10:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  1) Texas A&M had the most first-round picks, 3, and those were the only three draft picks they had..Louisville also had 3 First Round Picks...

FIFY...

Yup, you sure did. Thanks!

(05-10-2014 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Now that it is over ...

1) Texas A&M had the most first-round picks, 3, and those were the only three draft picks they had.

2) Most players drafted:

LSU: 9
Alabama: 8
Notre Dame: 8

LSU had as many draft picks as the entire 2014 AAC:

UCF: 2
UConn: 2
SMU: 2
USF: 1
Memphis: 1
Tulane: 1

Temple, Cincy, ECU, Tulsa and Houston had nobody drafted.


3) The Mighty Texas Longhorns had nobody drafted.

How many from the Big East?

(05-11-2014 09:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 10:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  1) Texas A&M had the most first-round picks, 3, and those were the only three draft picks they had..Louisville also had 3 First Round Picks...

FIFY...

Yup, you sure did. Thanks!

^ Reading this guys posts is like masturbating with a cheese grader... Slightly amusing but intellectually painful.

(05-10-2014 07:46 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Seriously. How much does it take for him to get banned?

Mods are pansies, apparently...'redbirdtd' is a troll as well...does nothing but mock the AAC.

(05-11-2014 08:50 AM)Maize Wrote:  Thanks....the fact is the 2014 Draft if you want to talk conferences you can't omit Louisville from the AAC and you can't just say Texas A&M-(of the SEC) was the "ONLY" school with 3 First Round Picks when you had an AAC School also with 3 First Round Picks and the 1st QB Taken was the AAC Offensive POY @ #3 Overall...

First, I omitted Louisville from the AAC because I was talking about the draft picks of schools that will be in the football AAC in 2014, so my exclusion of UL was appropriate. It's also why i did include ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa, schools that were not in the AAC during the 2013 football season, because they will be in the AAC starting with the 2014 season.

I focused on the 2014 season, not 2013, because there has been a lot of discussion about how meaningful the 2013 season is in terms of projecting how good the AAC will be in coming years. My contention all along has been that in losing Louisville, we are losing a LOT, in terms of results on the field and in talent, and I think this draft supports that contention.

Second, I did not say that Texas A/M was the only school with 3 first round picks, I said they had the most, with 3, and that was technically correct, as nobody had more than three.

Of course I should have also mentioned that Louisville tied with A/M for that honor, as you also had three. That was inadvertent, I just looked down the list quickly and missed it, probably because your three first round picks were at the tail-end of the round. But whatever the reason, it was an accident that I was happy to correct in the original post, as there was no disrespect towards UL intended.

(05-11-2014 08:57 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Interesting stat from UCFSports.com poster Auggie:

In 2 of the last 3 NFL Drafts (2012 & 2014), UCF had the first NFL Draft pick of all major schools in Florida.

Josh Robinson, 66th overall in 2012

Blake Bortles 3rd overall in 2014

That speaks to the lack of talent at major Florida schools in 2012 (shocking, really) and to Bortles's extremely high rating in 2014. Good for UCF.

(05-11-2014 10:00 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:57 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Interesting stat from UCFSports.com poster Auggie:

In 2 of the last 3 NFL Drafts (2012 & 2014), UCF had the first NFL Draft pick of all major schools in Florida.

Josh Robinson, 66th overall in 2012

Blake Bortles 3rd overall in 2014

That speaks to the lack of talent at major Florida schools in 2012 (shocking, really) and to Bortles's extremely high rating in 2014. Good for UCF.

Quodooche is like a bobblehead when it comes to everything that doesn't fit within his narrative. LMAO It's like he doesn't have a brain in his head.

"Ohhh that's nice that's nice.. Thank you for posting.."

(05-11-2014 06:51 AM)otown Wrote:  i dont have a problem with maize posting here. all he is doing is correcting the drivel that quo is spewing.

and to our resident troll:

hey quo..... i stubbed my toe this morning. please create a story for me on how it is related to the AAC sucking. you seem to do that with every other topic.

This post makes little sense. The NFL Draft is not something like stubbing a toe. Thanks to ESPN/NFL hype, it has evolved into a major football event, and it is always discussed in terms of implications for colleges and conference.

Colleges that have lots of draft picks most surely market that to recruits because it is evidence that they can place their players in the NFL, and the same is true of conferences.

As the draft just ended yesterday, my post drawing those implications for the AAC was very timely and relevant. You just don't like the news.

(05-11-2014 10:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  As the draft just ended yesterday, my post drawing those implications for the AAC was very timely and relevant. You just don't like the news.

Actually, the draft reflected very well on the AAC. BORTLES is a MAJOR star of this class. Having two AAC QB's drafted is HUGE (and speaks highly of the QB's to follow, like PJ Walker, John O'Korn, Shane Carden, etc). Having 1 program put 3 AAC players in the first round was only matched by the SEC.

GTFO, Quodoosh.

(05-11-2014 10:17 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  As the draft just ended yesterday, my post drawing those implications for the AAC was very timely and relevant. You just don't like the news.

Actually, the draft reflected very well on the AAC.

It really didn't, it reflected lousy on us. When the roster of schools that will constitute the AAC this coming season have a grand total of nine draft picks, the same number as the single school with the most draft picks, well, that is a very poor number.

Importantly, the AAC number was nowhere near P5 level, definitely not a "tweener" draft for us. The lowest-ranking P5 conference was the Big 12, with 17 picks. Our 9 is far away from that. Overall, the P5 conferences averaged 34 draft picks, almost 4x as many as we had. That's bad for us.

Heck, our major competition for the top G5 (tallest midget) title is the MWC, and they had 16 draft picks, much better than us.

No sense in sugar-coating it, we need a major talent upgrade to establish ourselves as a good football conference.

(05-11-2014 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:17 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  As the draft just ended yesterday, my post drawing those implications for the AAC was very timely and relevant. You just don't like the news.

Actually, the draft reflected very well on the AAC.

It really didn't, it reflected lousy on us. When the roster of schools that will constitute the AAC this coming season have a grand total of nine draft picks, the same number as the single school with the most draft picks, well, that is a very poor number.

Importantly, the AAC number was nowhere near P5 level, definitely not a "tweener" draft for us. The lowest-ranking P5 conference was the Big 12, with 17 picks. Our 9 is far away from that. Overall, the P5 conferences averaged 34 draft picks, almost 4x as many as we had. That's bad for us.

Heck, our major competition for the top G5 (tallest midget) title is the MWC, and they had 16 draft picks, much better than us.

No sense in sugar-coating it, we need a major talent upgrade to establish ourselves as a good football conference.

One year means nothing. Could be the case that the conference's senior class wasn't that strong. Now let's look at 5 year numbers and that would give us a better idea

(05-11-2014 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  It really didn't, it reflected lousy on us.

Us??? Really?

Stopped reading after this sentence.

This draft is about this past year. Next years draft will reflect on next year.

It shines VERY WELL on the conference to have one of the most high profile stars of this class wearing an AAC patch on his uni.

Blake is a KEY POSTERBOY in all the draft promos.

You're kidding yourself if you doubt that's significant.

(05-11-2014 10:33 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:17 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  As the draft just ended yesterday, my post drawing those implications for the AAC was very timely and relevant. You just don't like the news.

Actually, the draft reflected very well on the AAC.

It really didn't, it reflected lousy on us. When the roster of schools that will constitute the AAC this coming season have a grand total of nine draft picks, the same number as the single school with the most draft picks, well, that is a very poor number.

Importantly, the AAC number was nowhere near P5 level, definitely not a "tweener" draft for us. The lowest-ranking P5 conference was the Big 12, with 17 picks. Our 9 is far away from that. Overall, the P5 conferences averaged 34 draft picks, almost 4x as many as we had. That's bad for us.

Heck, our major competition for the top G5 (tallest midget) title is the MWC, and they had 16 draft picks, much better than us.

No sense in sugar-coating it, we need a major talent upgrade to establish ourselves as a good football conference.

One year means nothing. Could be the case that the conference's senior class wasn't that strong. Now let's look at 5 year numbers and that would give us a better idea

No question, one year is just one data point, and future years could tell a different story. But it is an important data point, because (a) It is the only one we currently have, it's the baseline, and (b) we are expecting our TV deal to be renegotiated in 5-6 years, so we don't have a lot of time to get that number up.

The Big East might be a good point of comparison as well, since they were an AQ conference but one widely (though wrongly) regarded as "not worthy" of regard as a top football conference. The last four seasons of the old pre-raided Big east, 2009-2012, the Big East averaged 20 draft picks. That's a target to shoot for and one we're far away from as of now.

(05-11-2014 10:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  But it is an important data point, because (a) It is the only one we currently have, it's the baseline

And yet you're so dismissive of our basketball season as the "baseline".

What a doosh.

(05-11-2014 10:42 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  It shines VERY WELL on the conference to have one of the most high profile stars of this class wearing an AAC patch on his uni.

That "shine" is for one player for one school, which does not a conference make (amazing that this needs to be pointed out, but I am talking to Homer, LOL).

Conferences are evaluated top to bottom, and when the conference total is 9 and fully five of the 2014 schools had nobody drafted at all, that speaks very poorly.

And that last statistic i quoted is particularly worrisome, the MWC had 16 picks to our 9. Their draft was a "tweener", not ours. We definitely need to upgrade our talent recruiting an development.

Looking back at Texas Longhorns past recruiting classes that would have made some players eligible for the 2014 NFL Draft, its shocking that not ONE Texas Longhorn was selected in this year's draft.

5 years ago (2009 Recruiting Rankings for any possible Redshirt Seniors), Texas had the #5 ranked class

4 years ago (2010), Texas had the #3 ranked recruiting class.

3 years ago (2011), Texas again had the #3 ranked recruiting class.

For Texas to not have any players selected in 2014 NFL Draft is stupefying.

(05-11-2014 10:49 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 10:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  But it is an important data point, because (a) It is the only one we currently have, it's the baseline

And yet you're so dismissive of our basketball season as the "baseline".

I haven't dismissed it, I just noted that a big part of the national stature we enjoyed this first basketball season, like in football, was provided by Louisville, a school that will not be with us going forward, and so in terms of drawing implications for the future, that season has to be evaluated as if UL was not a part of the clan.

Elementary stuff, but it swooshes over your head.

Using CUSA recruited classes to project on future AAC classes is a dubious endeavor at best. Those teams haven't even played a down of AAC football.

Here are the results of draft choices between MWC members and AAC since 2010
Total
MWC =56
AAC= 65
By schools
1.UConn 13 vs Boise 14
2. USF. 12. Vs SDSU 11
3. Cincinnati 9 vs USU 8
4. SMU 9 vs Fresno 6
5. UCF 8 vs Nevada 5
6. Temple 5 vs Hawaii 4
7. ECU 4 vs SJU 3
8. Memphis 2 vs Wyoming 2
9. Tulsa 1 vs Colorado State 1
10. Houston 1 vs New Mexico 1
11. Tulane 1 vs UNLV 1
12. Navy 0 vs Air Force 0