On one hand I believe in if you do the crime you gotta do the time and on the other hand, the man completed his parole and started to live a real and productive life.

http://news.yahoo.com/man-back-prison-90...54921.html

our system of justice.....sweet.....lives destroyed

welcome to the real......

no sympathy.....

you make choices......

I've challenged the gov't fiscally....

never in violence.....

it is a system of isolated fail....

some people get screwed.....

is the consequence of the decision made regardless of mental capicity.....

These are hard cases, but they do need to be revisited.

The clerical error didn't absolve him of his guilt.

If he hadn't committed any crimes since his release, they shouldn't have taken him back to prison.

The purpose of prison is supposed to be rehabilitation and keeping dangerous people off the street.

In this case, he seems to be rehabilitated and is living a productive life. If he was a murderer/rapist, I would have a very different opinion on this, but in this case, the guy seems to be doing all the right things. I'd personally like to simply see him get electronic monitoring, a healthy amount of required community service every year, and restrictions on things he can and cannot do, much like a parolee.

The thing is prison isn't just about rehabilitation. The rehabilitation theory has failed. Prison is about retribution.

(05-09-2014 09:48 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is prison isn't just about rehabilitation. The rehabilitation theory has failed. Prison is about retribution.

And that should not be the case.

I look at the guy in MO this just happened to. I believe if they're out by mistake and are proving to be productive citizens, let them be.

Our prisons have been all about retribution for a very long time. When was the last time people actually thought about prison as a means for rehabilitation? I'm not sure about the right call here, but I know that too many misdemeanors involve prison time. That needs to be corrected.

(05-09-2014 10:12 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 09:48 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is prison isn't just about rehabilitation. The rehabilitation theory has failed. Prison is about retribution.

And that should not be the case.

Why not? Rehabilitation has been a failure.

98 years for armed robbery? I don't know... his sentencing sounded extreme fro mthe get go.

(05-09-2014 09:32 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The clerical error didn't absolve him of his guilt.

No, but as a one off lets look at this..

98 years for armed robbery where nobody was hurt?
He served 8 years, has been out for awhile and he

1 - Got A job
2 - Learned new job skills towards something better
3 - Got Married
4 - Obeyed all conditions of his Parole.

Seems like a no brainer to let this one go..

(05-09-2014 09:45 AM)Niner National Wrote:  The purpose of prison is supposed to be rehabilitation and keeping dangerous people off the street.

Thank you! They are supposed to be the "Department of Corrections"

(05-09-2014 09:48 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is prison isn't just about rehabilitation. The rehabilitation theory has failed. Prison is about retribution.

Not in this case....

(05-09-2014 10:18 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Our prisons have been all about retribution for a very long time. When was the last time people actually thought about prison as a means for rehabilitation? I'm not sure about the right call here, but I know that too many misdemeanors involve prison time. That needs to be corrected.

Isn't that why the U.s.a. supposedly has judges that determine the sentences and lawmakers that are clueless.....nice combo there....

I am unfortunately numb to this issue now.....it's sad at the amount of people that are incarcerated for non-violent crimes.....

(05-09-2014 11:24 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 10:18 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Our prisons have been all about retribution for a very long time. When was the last time people actually thought about prison as a means for rehabilitation? I'm not sure about the right call here, but I know that too many misdemeanors involve prison time. That needs to be corrected.

Isn't that why the U.s.a. supposedly has judges that determine the sentences and lawmakers that are clueless.....nice combo there....

I am unfortunately numb to this issue now.....it's sad at the amount of people that are incarcerated for non-violent crimes.....

This wasn't a non-violent crime.

This is something that's going to need some discretion from one of the parties in the judicial system. To send a person who has so far proven themselves to be the model parolee and reformed back to a place where that can all be lost again is pointless.

The state has already made one mistake, should they attempt to correct it with another?

The system screwed up. The system should drink it's own mistakes. If they kept him for 25 years too long, does he get the time back?

And 98 years for armed robbery? Armed robbery meaning that nobody got killed? We're letting punks who kill people out right and left and they're back in a year, and we're hard-assing this guy?

If he were a threat to humanity, that would be a different matter. But there's nothing here to indicate that.

This is what's wrong with government solutions. There's no room for common sense. And this is the thought process that we're turning health care over to?

(05-09-2014 11:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The system screwed up. The system should drink it's own mistakes. If they kept him for 25 years too long, does he get the time back?

If he were a threat to humanity, that would be a different matter. But there's nothing here to indicate that. We're letting punks out right and left and they're back in a year, and we're hard-assing this guy? This is what's wrong with government solutions. There's no room for common sense. And this is the thought process that we're turning health care over to?

The "punks" you're referring to. Are you referring to the ones sent to prison for non-violent crimes?

Our penal system has a nasty habit of turning non-violent offenders into hardened criminals. This is often why the "punks are back in a year".