(05-12-2014 02:16 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 02:02 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  B1G is the premier Women's conference :) - with Northwestern and next year Maryland joining. The best ACC by a long shot will be joining the THE top women's LAX program - so the TWO best LAX programs will be in the B1G

There's a case to be made that we'll be right up there, to be sure ... but when you can be reasonably sure that half of your conference will be in the top 10, and the realistic question is which four ... then there's a case to make on the ACC side as well.

Across the board, the ACC is clearly the dominant LAX conference, with inarguably one of the top two women's conference and the top men's conference.

(05-12-2014 12:40 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  I'm sure it was a joke; There is no culture shock.

Yeah, I reckoned it was, it was just a quite odd joke coming from someone who put themselves down as a Louisville fan.

And the idea that LAX is a joking matter summarizes the potential culture shock right there.

The ACC definitely has the depth advantage. B1G has the cream.

(05-12-2014 11:18 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 04:54 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Didn't know Laxatives were that popular among Young People much less Women had Their own laxative. And They have a Sport for it ? Wow!

Louisville plays women's LAX, #14 in the LAXpower power rating this year, and is joining the premier women's LAX conference in the country, that provided both finalists in this years championship ... with six of their current eight members ranked higher than Louisville on LAXpower, seven out of eight with higher NCAA RPI ...

... and you don't know what the abbreviation for Lacrosse means?

Is this the risk of culture shock for Louisville joining the ACC that they were talking about?

Yes it was a joke. Seemed like a good time for Monday Morning Humor back at Work. At least I am familiar with LAX and Our Ladies success. And glad We are going into a conference that plays it with passion.

(05-09-2014 09:12 AM)ivet Wrote:  I grew up in California, No one plays Lacrosse unless you went to a Private school or attend one of those rich public schools. My colleague went to Beverly Hills High School and she played on the HS lacrosse team. Lacrosse is not big in the West Coast. You're more likely to run into a skateboard team than a Lacrosse team.

Don't know how old you are, but don't base your opinion on how the world was when you were in HS. When I went to HS in Rhode Island, only a couple of prep schools played lax. Now there are 3 D1 men's programs in RI. My town was a hockey town. Several classmates got D1 hockey scholarships. Nobody played lacrosse. Now my HS has a lax program.

(05-12-2014 08:11 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 09:12 AM)ivet Wrote:  I grew up in California, No one plays Lacrosse unless you went to a Private school or attend one of those rich public schools. My colleague went to Beverly Hills High School and she played on the HS lacrosse team. Lacrosse is not big in the West Coast. You're more likely to run into a skateboard team than a Lacrosse team.

Don't know how old you are, but don't base your opinion on how the world was when you were in HS. When I went to HS in Rhode Island, only a couple of prep schools played lax. Now there are 3 D1 men's programs in RI. My town was a hockey town. Several classmates got D1 hockey scholarships. Nobody played lacrosse. Now my HS has a lax program.

Graduated High School in 2002. I'm not that far removed and though it might be growing in popularity in the Rhode Island (New England!) it is still not as popular in California as you make it sound. I just double checked and Santa Barbara High School (of all places) still does not have a HS team or have plans of having it.

(05-13-2014 05:25 PM)ivet Wrote:  

(05-12-2014 08:11 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 09:12 AM)ivet Wrote:  I grew up in California, No one plays Lacrosse unless you went to a Private school or attend one of those rich public schools. My colleague went to Beverly Hills High School and she played on the HS lacrosse team. Lacrosse is not big in the West Coast. You're more likely to run into a skateboard team than a Lacrosse team.

Don't know how old you are, but don't base your opinion on how the world was when you were in HS. When I went to HS in Rhode Island, only a couple of prep schools played lax. Now there are 3 D1 men's programs in RI. My town was a hockey town. Several classmates got D1 hockey scholarships. Nobody played lacrosse. Now my HS has a lax program.

Graduated High School in 2002. I'm not that far removed and though it might be growing in popularity in the Rhode Island (New England!) it is still not as popular in California as you make it sound. I just double checked and Santa Barbara High School (of all places) still does not have a HS team or have plans of having it.

no offense dude but 2002 & 2014 might as well be different worlds.

hell the lax culture of colorado between 2006 & 2014 is two different worlds.



i think you can make a case that cali's population centers are pretty well covered

(05-13-2014 08:06 PM)john01992 Wrote:  no offense dude but 2002 & 2014 might as well be different worlds.

hell the lax culture of colorado between 2006 & 2014 is two different worlds.



i think you can make a case that cali's population centers are pretty well covered

so back to my original point about it being more of a East Coast (Mid-Atl,New England thing) and the West coast being selective more towards richer areas and/or private schools. Even looking at the map that looks more like City Club leagues as oppose High School sponsored. Can't speak for Colorado but I just talked to a couple of buddies from high school and asked if Lacrosse was blowing up there. They said "WTF is lacrosse?" 20 years from now it might change but for now Lacrosse is just a sport for richer folks.

Look I like Lacrosse, I actually think it's a cool sport but it isn't as popular in the West Coast as you guys make it out to be.

(05-14-2014 09:36 AM)ivet Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 08:06 PM)john01992 Wrote:  no offense dude but 2002 & 2014 might as well be different worlds.

hell the lax culture of colorado between 2006 & 2014 is two different worlds.



i think you can make a case that cali's population centers are pretty well covered

so back to my original point about it being more of a East Coast (Mid-Atl,New England thing) and the West coast being selective more towards richer areas and/or private schools. Even looking at the map that looks more like City Club leagues as oppose High School sponsored. Can't speak for Colorado but I just talked to a couple of buddies from high school and asked if Lacrosse was blowing up there. They said "WTF is lacrosse?" 20 years from now it might change but for now Lacrosse is just a sport for richer folks.

Look I like Lacrosse, I actually think it's a cool sport but it isn't as popular in the West Coast as you guys make it out to be.

i can't speak to your buddies in CO but i see plenty of lax bros out here all the time, i see a lot of CU students especially from the springs talking about how popular it is down there, and i see CU holding a summer lax camp that attracts 1000s of middle & high school students.

how it hasn't already arrived in CO is beyond me.

your attitude seems to be: "if i don't see it, it must not exist"

(05-14-2014 09:36 AM)ivet Wrote:  so back to my original point about it being more of a East Coast (Mid-Atl,New England thing) and the West coast being selective more towards richer areas and/or private schools. Even looking at the map that looks more like City Club leagues as oppose High School sponsored. Can't speak for Colorado but I just talked to a couple of buddies from high school and asked if Lacrosse was blowing up there. They said "WTF is lacrosse?" 20 years from now it might change but for now Lacrosse is just a sport for richer folks.

Look I like Lacrosse, I actually think it's a cool sport but it isn't as popular in the West Coast as you guys make it out to be.

Umm, dude your evidence of 'I talked to a couple of my buddies' means jack no offense, Lacrosse is pretty popular in Washington state and continues to grow. It is not a Rich area/private school league, maybe it was 20 years ago, but things change.

You are in DC, Do you really think you know more about what the kids are playing than people actually living here?

(05-14-2014 09:42 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i can't speak to your buddies in CO but i see plenty of lax bros out here all the time, i see a lot of CU students especially from the springs talking about how popular it is down there, and i see CU holding a summer lax camp that attracts 1000s of middle & high school students.

how it hasn't already arrived in CO is beyond me.

your attitude seems to be: "if i don't see it, it must not exist"

My attitude isnt "if I dont see it, it must not exist." I know it exist, but like i said, its more if rec sport than a sanctioned school program. also back to what i said about it is more in private schools or richer areas. My attitude is, its not as popular in the west coast than it is in the East coast.

(05-14-2014 10:16 AM)superdeluxe Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:36 AM)ivet Wrote:  so back to my original point about it being more of a East Coast (Mid-Atl,New England thing) and the West coast being selective more towards richer areas and/or private schools. Even looking at the map that looks more like City Club leagues as oppose High School sponsored. Can't speak for Colorado but I just talked to a couple of buddies from high school and asked if Lacrosse was blowing up there. They said "WTF is lacrosse?" 20 years from now it might change but for now Lacrosse is just a sport for richer folks.

Look I like Lacrosse, I actually think it's a cool sport but it isn't as popular in the West Coast as you guys make it out to be.

Umm, dude your evidence of 'I talked to a couple of my buddies' means jack no offense, Lacrosse is pretty popular in Washington state and continues to grow. It is not a Rich area/private school league, maybe it was 20 years ago, but things change.

You are in DC, Do you really think you know more about what the kids are playing than people actually living here?

Then why isnt lacrosse a seasonal sport for all high school players like it is over here? why are there only a few colleges in the West coast offer it? heck it would benefit all the West coast colleges to have a Womens Lax to offset Mens football.

Do you know what conference University of Denver's Lacrosse team is in? They joined the Big East. Do they not have enough schools in the west coast or is it more of a competitive thing- or both?

(05-14-2014 10:24 AM)ivet Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:16 AM)superdeluxe Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:36 AM)ivet Wrote:  so back to my original point about it being more of a East Coast (Mid-Atl,New England thing) and the West coast being selective more towards richer areas and/or private schools. Even looking at the map that looks more like City Club leagues as oppose High School sponsored. Can't speak for Colorado but I just talked to a couple of buddies from high school and asked if Lacrosse was blowing up there. They said "WTF is lacrosse?" 20 years from now it might change but for now Lacrosse is just a sport for richer folks.

Look I like Lacrosse, I actually think it's a cool sport but it isn't as popular in the West Coast as you guys make it out to be.

Umm, dude your evidence of 'I talked to a couple of my buddies' means jack no offense, Lacrosse is pretty popular in Washington state and continues to grow. It is not a Rich area/private school league, maybe it was 20 years ago, but things change.

You are in DC, Do you really think you know more about what the kids are playing than people actually living here?

Then why isnt lacrosse a seasonal sport for all high school players like it is over here? why are there only a few colleges in the West coast offer it? heck it would benefit all the West coast colleges to have a Womens Lax to offset Mens football.

Do you know what conference University of Denver's Lacrosse team is in? They joined the Big East. Do they not have enough schools in the west coast or is it more of a competitive thing- or both?

DU is in the BE because they have a top lax coach with eastern connections and opted to join a more prestigious conference.

there are 471 HS mens lax teams in cali ==> i think that's a pretty sizable number

(05-14-2014 10:24 AM)ivet Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:16 AM)superdeluxe Wrote:  Umm, dude your evidence of 'I talked to a couple of my buddies' means jack no offense, Lacrosse is pretty popular in Washington state and continues to grow. It is not a Rich area/private school league, maybe it was 20 years ago, but things change.

You are in DC, Do you really think you know more about what the kids are playing than people actually living here?

Then why isnt lacrosse a seasonal sport for all high school players like it is over here? why are there only a few colleges in the West coast offer it?

I can't work out what positions you two are arguing ... whether women's LAX is in the same position in the West as it was a decade ago, whether women's LAX have some areas of rapid growth in popularity in the West, or whether women's LAX is entrenched in the West in the same way it is on the East Coast.

Its like an argument between "LAX is growing in popularity in the West" and "LAX has not reach {fill_in_the_blank} levels of popularity in areas I am familiar with", where given a sport growing very rapidly from a very small base, both can be true at the same time.

Actually, I remember soccer arguments like this from back in the days of USENET News.

Quote: heck it would benefit all the West coast colleges to have a Womens Lax to offset Mens football.

But if they already have their TitleIX offset sports in place from two to four decades ago, they don't need to add a sport for that.

They only need a new TitleIX offset sport if they want to add a new men's sport, or else if they want to start giving full scholarships in men's sports that they offer under the limit.

Quote: Do you know what conference University of Denver's Lacrosse team is in? They joined the Big East. Do they not have enough schools in the west coast or is it more of a competitive thing- or both?

That's a competition and conference realignment thing, on the men's lacrosse side ... Denver was playing club Lacrosse since the 60's, and was a founding member of Great Western Lacrosse, together with Air Force, OSU, Michigan State, Notre Dame and Butler in 1994, though it didn't start playing full Division 1 until 1999. The GWLL had several membership changes to hold six members for AQ due to schools dropping the sport until Notre Dame left and the five remaining members joined the ECAC en masse, replacing the three Big East schools who left when their main conference sponsored Lacrosse.

When the New Big East formed, they needed a sixth program for AQ, and the ECAC was rumored to again be under the gun (rumors which proved accurate later the same year when the Buckeyes and TSUN announced they would be leaving to join the new Big Ten Lacrosse for 2014/15), the Big East offered Denver a stable all-sports conference sponsoring Lacrosse and Denver offer the Big East an established program and a sixth school for AQ.

But the Women's Lacrosse programs of the Big East and the American conference decided to play together in a single conference, with six programs for an AQ, and the Big East did not require the Denver women's team to come along. So Denver women's Lacrosse remains in the MPSF, along with Cal, Colorado, Fresno State, Oregon, St. Mary's, SDSU, Stanford, UC Davis, and USC.

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Why doesn't (fill in the blank) field a women's water polo team?

(05-14-2014 10:24 AM)ivet Wrote:  Then why isnt lacrosse a seasonal sport for all high school players like it is over here? why are there only a few colleges in the West coast offer it? heck it would benefit all the West coast colleges to have a Womens Lax to offset Mens football.

Do you know what conference University of Denver's Lacrosse team is in? They joined the Big East. Do they not have enough schools in the west coast or is it more of a competitive thing- or both?

Most colleges offer it as a club sport

Title Nine and Athletic Department budgets are large reasons why schools are not jumping on this. Travel is another huge problem.

For High school, it is pretty big in Washington state. Your point was that this was only happening for Private schools and Rich kids, and I'm telling you that is not the case here in Washington state.