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American Conference
Air your laundry thread,

All of us are in the same conference . Some are happy they moved up, some actually fell they got left behind,and perhaps did. The fact is for the time being we are in the same boat. I have probably been the least civil.i would to have a thread where we could clear the air.. I ask that the mods have some leniency and let some folks have some leeway in their remarks. On the other hand let the new guys have a little respect for the teams that were here first..
First question is what do you think this league can become. I really think every team in this league can and is P 5 caliber.. Your thoughts good or
Bad will be respected....
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RE: American Conference
I have nothing but positive things to say about this conference. I think this league if it stays together (big if) can be competing for every title there is to compete for also assuming the p5 don't completely split off. I love not only the potential of this league but the results which have already happened right in front of us.
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The American has been and done all you could have hoped for in year one. Long road ahead in any case.
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The league will be fine; we just have to keep winning. I really think that the football will be better from top-to-bottom next season, which will help the perception.

I don't think that there will be any movement for a while, therein lies security for our conference. I still think that it would behoove us to go after some MWC teams and BYU, perhaps even Army.
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Just waiting till our Big 12 invite comes. Should hear something by then. Chilling for the time being. This is the Golden Age for Memphis
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No beef, just wish Tulane and Tulsa were't added. That one will be confusing for years to come, especially with championship game deregulation.
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RE: American Conference
Year 1 was REALLY good for the AAC...many "P5 people" seem to expect a really sharp drop off without Louisville...but I expect good things from year 2.

UCF, Cincy, ECU, Houston, etc will make football a lot of fun to watch...

UConn, SMU, Memphis, Cincy, Tulsa, Houston, Temple, etc will make the AAC a great hoops conference.

UConn women will keep on dominating.

AAC baseball will be solid with Tulane, ECU, Houston, UCF, etc.
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Our future can be seen with an air of optimism rather than 'cautious' optimism. I think we laid to rest quite a bit of hate.
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The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

Also...it will be hard for many fans of each AAC school to really care about the conference games because:
a: there are no marquee names in this conference
b: hardly any regional rivalries (i.e. people in Cincy could care less about Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, etc and the feeling I'm sure is reciprocated)
c: mid major football games are hard to get up for
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(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

Also...it will be hard for many fans of each AAC school to really care about the conference games because:
a: there are no marquee names in this conference
b: hardly any regional rivalries (i.e. people in Cincy could care less about Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, etc and the feeling I'm sure is reciprocated)
c: mid major football games are hard to get up for

I agree the tv money needs to be in the 9-10 million range on the next deal to keep us in the game. If things stay calm and the league stays intact it will be interesting to see what we get. I honestly believe they will get 7-8 million at a minimum but time will tell.
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I'm amazed with some of the guff we're taking from the likes of cincy fans... We've been playing Cincy at least semi-regularly since the 50's. If we can get the football team back on the right track we'll be one of the best additions that came into the AAC (besides maybe UCF & Memphis)
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(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

I don't know if it will get harder to compete but the G5 status will be used to dial back investment in coaches instead of going after the biggest names.

O'Leary moves on from UCF and the next guy for example starts at 800,000. Its stuff like that you have to watch out for. UCF would still compete for conference championships but it takes the edge off the program. This is similar to the Pastner hire at Memphis or the new Boise State football coach. They aren't a starting back at square one hires but a clear step backward with a new lowered set of expectations.
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(05-08-2014 10:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

I don't know if it will get harder to compete but the G5 status will be used to dial back investment in coaches instead of going after the biggest names.

O'Leary moves on from UCF and the next guy for example starts at 800,000. Its stuff like that you have to watch out for. UCF would still compete for conference championships but it takes the edge off the program. This is similar to the Pastner hire at Memphis or the new Boise State football coach. They aren't a starting back at square one hires but a clear step backward with a new lowered set of expectations.

June Jones makes $2,000,000 a year and Larry Brown makes $2,800,000
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(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

Also...it will be hard for many fans of each AAC school to really care about the conference games because:
a: there are no marquee names in this conference
b: hardly any regional rivalries (i.e. people in Cincy could care less about Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, etc and the feeling I'm sure is reciprocated)
c: mid major football games are hard to get up for

Our contract will be renogiated in 5 years

A. Boise, Louisville, cincy, South Carolina, Baylor weren't powers in the slightest 10 years ago and Oregon & A&M were good names but weren't marquee.. And 20 years ago Colorado, Houston, Pitt & SMU were marquee.. "Marquee" changes, beat the big boys some of our teams will be marquee

B. Cincy has a "rival" but you don't think they are good enough for cincy. If Memphis had the football reputation of Houston or won the bcs like ucf last year. We both know you'd have been way more excited to call Memphis vs cincy a rivalry

C. I'm curious how a total of 7 years have put cincy fans on a higher platform that they are too good for other teams. I honestly think you need to stop worrying about classification and start just supporting team who's technically been mid-major 90% of its history
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For the most part, this is a league of similar institutions. BB has already arrived, and FB will make its mark because of hungry coaches (and players). The league has all upside. Invest.
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RE: American Conference
(05-08-2014 10:17 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

I don't know if it will get harder to compete but the G5 status will be used to dial back investment in coaches instead of going after the biggest names.

O'Leary moves on from UCF and the next guy for example starts at 800,000. Its stuff like that you have to watch out for. UCF would still compete for conference championships but it takes the edge off the program. This is similar to the Pastner hire at Memphis or the new Boise State football coach. They aren't a starting back at square one hires but a clear step backward with a new lowered set of expectations.

Memphis will never have to worry about having a crappy coach like Kellogg. You guys got destroyed and raked through the mud by freaking Tennessee. You lost to Tennessee coached by Cuonzo Martin
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my only complaint is that somehow rice never got an invite.
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(05-08-2014 10:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

Also...it will be hard for many fans of each AAC school to really care about the conference games because:
a: there are no marquee names in this conference
b: hardly any regional rivalries (i.e. people in Cincy could care less about Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, etc and the feeling I'm sure is reciprocated)
c: mid major football games are hard to get up for

Our contract will be renogiated in 5 years

A. Boise, Louisville, cincy, South Carolina, Baylor weren't powers in the slightest 10 years ago and Oregon & A&M were good names but weren't marquee.. And 20 years ago Colorado, Houston, Pitt & SMU were marquee.. "Marquee" changes, beat the big boys some of our teams will be marquee

B. Cincy has a "rival" but you don't think they are good enough for cincy. If Memphis had the football reputation of Houston or won the bcs like ucf last year. We both know you'd have been way more excited to call Memphis vs cincy a rivalry

C. I'm curious how a total of 7 years have put cincy fans on a higher platform that they are too good for other teams. I honestly think you need to stop worrying about classification and start just supporting team who's technically been mid-major 90% of its history

Actually it was a little before 10 years ago that Louisville starting making great headway. Matter of fact, 11 years ago they ended the season at 11-1, ranked #7 in the last AP poll before the bowl games, won their bowl game against a top 10 team. They continued to stay ranked and do very well after that until the disaster hire of Krag. That was a horrible 3 years but they bounced back very quickly. I don't see them falling again as Jurich will not make that kind of mistake again.

I do agree though that the money might be a big issue down the line. It's very hard to move up the ladder and make drastic improvements without a big income. The CUSA income we had years ago and even the BE income was nothing compared to the other top conferences. It not for the community and alumni of Louisville being willing to donate so much and have great investments, we would not have been able to grow as we did. You have to get the money from somewhere to invest into growing the programs, getting the best coaches, having facilities that will lure the recruits etc.
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(05-08-2014 09:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I'm amazed with some of the guff we're taking from the likes of cincy fans... We've been playing Cincy at least semi-regularly since the 50's. If we can get the football team back on the right track we'll be one of the best additions that came into the AAC (besides maybe UCF & Memphis)

I agree - several UC fans seem to think it's their job to trash Tulane and Tulsa on almost every thread on this board and others. It's getting old.

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(05-08-2014 10:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 08:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The AAC will be solid on field but as the huge disparity in money between the P5 and G5 (us) goes on year after year it will get more and more difficult to compete at that level.

Also...it will be hard for many fans of each AAC school to really care about the conference games because:
a: there are no marquee names in this conference
b: hardly any regional rivalries (i.e. people in Cincy could care less about Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, etc and the feeling I'm sure is reciprocated)
c: mid major football games are hard to get up for

Our contract will be renogiated in 5 years

A. Boise, Louisville, cincy, South Carolina, Baylor weren't powers in the slightest 10 years ago and Oregon & A&M were good names but weren't marquee.. And 20 years ago Colorado, Houston, Pitt & SMU were marquee.. "Marquee" changes, beat the big boys some of our teams will be marquee

B. Cincy has a "rival" but you don't think they are good enough for cincy. If Memphis had the football reputation of Houston or won the bcs like ucf last year. We both know you'd have been way more excited to call Memphis vs cincy a rivalry

C. I'm curious how a total of 7 years have put cincy fans on a higher platform that they are too good for other teams. I honestly think you need to stop worrying about classification and start just supporting team who's technically been mid-major 90% of its history

Stop saying "fans".
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