(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:05 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:00 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  I know politically no way it could happen, but if you could merge Tech, ULM, and Grambling all into one school. Wow that could be a very nice all around completive school across the board. Or if Tech was in Shreveport things would be a little easier on everybody as well.

It certainly would solve SOME of our higher ed problems.

New problem - Would the new mascot be Wardogs or Bullhawks?

Oh well for the complimentary post I was about to make about the Cajuns. We do a lot with a little and have an admin in place that is not putting up with losing and is raising money. Tech's facilities are no better than ours and they are in the same region with less of the amenities at ULM's disposal. Hard to argue that Tech football or baseball is any better than ours. Basketball, yes, but we basically had the death penalty. For that matter they are better an ANYONE in the Belt. What I WAS going to say about the Cajuns, is that you are in a high population, growing area of the state, and are doing VERY well with your sports programs right now. Where Tech, I just don't like, I actually pull for the Cajuns to do well out of conference usually. You guys are starting to wear on that concept though. However, even as well as you are doing, I wouldn't bash us too much. With our tiny budget and low income area, we still beat you in football and split with you in basketball.

Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

(05-08-2014 04:17 PM)asupatch Wrote:  Not this year but if we continue to show well against our peer conferences, any chance we can pull over a UAB LaTech Southern Miss or even MTSU? Keep travel down and sell more tickets as the opponents would be closer to home and should in theory bring more fans with them.

But are they closer to home? In the sunbelt you still have to go to Idaho and to the Carolinas. C-USA has USM, UAB, Tech, Rice and UNT in the cluster. I think the premise is flawed. Sure, there would be a big cluster if 4 moved to the belt; there would be a big cluster if the ULs, A State and Troy moved to C-USA.
If you want a travel cost reduction, you merge and east/west split. The case that that financially benefits schools has never been made and won't have a chance of being made until the next TV negotiations.

(05-10-2014 09:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:05 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:00 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  I know politically no way it could happen, but if you could merge Tech, ULM, and Grambling all into one school. Wow that could be a very nice all around completive school across the board. Or if Tech was in Shreveport things would be a little easier on everybody as well.

It certainly would solve SOME of our higher ed problems.

New problem - Would the new mascot be Wardogs or Bullhawks?

Oh well for the complimentary post I was about to make about the Cajuns. We do a lot with a little and have an admin in place that is not putting up with losing and is raising money. Tech's facilities are no better than ours and they are in the same region with less of the amenities at ULM's disposal. Hard to argue that Tech football or baseball is any better than ours. Basketball, yes, but we basically had the death penalty. For that matter they are better an ANYONE in the Belt. What I WAS going to say about the Cajuns, is that you are in a high population, growing area of the state, and are doing VERY well with your sports programs right now. Where Tech, I just don't like, I actually pull for the Cajuns to do well out of conference usually. You guys are starting to wear on that concept though. However, even as well as you are doing, I wouldn't bash us too much. With our tiny budget and low income area, we still beat you in football and split with you in basketball.

Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

(05-10-2014 09:50 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:05 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It certainly would solve SOME of our higher ed problems.

New problem - Would the new mascot be Wardogs or Bullhawks?

Oh well for the complimentary post I was about to make about the Cajuns. We do a lot with a little and have an admin in place that is not putting up with losing and is raising money. Tech's facilities are no better than ours and they are in the same region with less of the amenities at ULM's disposal. Hard to argue that Tech football or baseball is any better than ours. Basketball, yes, but we basically had the death penalty. For that matter they are better an ANYONE in the Belt. What I WAS going to say about the Cajuns, is that you are in a high population, growing area of the state, and are doing VERY well with your sports programs right now. Where Tech, I just don't like, I actually pull for the Cajuns to do well out of conference usually. You guys are starting to wear on that concept though. However, even as well as you are doing, I wouldn't bash us too much. With our tiny budget and low income area, we still beat you in football and split with you in basketball.

Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

I don't know how you manage to be a Tech/ASU fan considering the history between the two. There are a lot of ASU alums who will tell you they hate Tech worse than Memphis.

And yes, I am gladly comparing the attendance between the two. I've seen ULM draw large crowds. I have never seen Tech draw a big crowd...and putting a tarp over those seats is ridiculous.

As for ULL... We've been with them for twenty plus years, I don't see that changing any time soon.

(05-10-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:50 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Oh well for the complimentary post I was about to make about the Cajuns. We do a lot with a little and have an admin in place that is not putting up with losing and is raising money. Tech's facilities are no better than ours and they are in the same region with less of the amenities at ULM's disposal. Hard to argue that Tech football or baseball is any better than ours. Basketball, yes, but we basically had the death penalty. For that matter they are better an ANYONE in the Belt. What I WAS going to say about the Cajuns, is that you are in a high population, growing area of the state, and are doing VERY well with your sports programs right now. Where Tech, I just don't like, I actually pull for the Cajuns to do well out of conference usually. You guys are starting to wear on that concept though. However, even as well as you are doing, I wouldn't bash us too much. With our tiny budget and low income area, we still beat you in football and split with you in basketball.

Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

I don't know how you manage to be a Tech/ASU fan considering the history between the two. There are a lot of ASU alums who will tell you they hate Tech worse than Memphis.

And yes, I am gladly comparing the attendance between the two. I've seen ULM draw large crowds. I have never seen Tech draw a big crowd...and putting a tarp over those seats is ridiculous.

As for ULL... We've been with them for twenty plus years, I don't see that changing any time soon.

Married a tech grad who's parents are huge boosters. I'm too young to remember history from that long ago. I'd love to see historical attendance numbers between the schools.

(05-10-2014 10:06 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:50 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

I don't know how you manage to be a Tech/ASU fan considering the history between the two. There are a lot of ASU alums who will tell you they hate Tech worse than Memphis.

And yes, I am gladly comparing the attendance between the two. I've seen ULM draw large crowds. I have never seen Tech draw a big crowd...and putting a tarp over those seats is ridiculous.

As for ULL... We've been with them for twenty plus years, I don't see that changing any time soon.

Married a tech grad who's parents are huge boosters. I'm too young to remember history from that long ago. I'd love to see historical attendance numbers between the schools.

All I know is that Joe Aillet has never had a sellout. The only game over 25,000 in that stadium was against Mississippi State a couple of years ago, and that one was less than 25,100.

(05-10-2014 10:06 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:50 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

I don't know how you manage to be a Tech/ASU fan considering the history between the two. There are a lot of ASU alums who will tell you they hate Tech worse than Memphis.

And yes, I am gladly comparing the attendance between the two. I've seen ULM draw large crowds. I have never seen Tech draw a big crowd...and putting a tarp over those seats is ridiculous.

As for ULL... We've been with them for twenty plus years, I don't see that changing any time soon.

Married a tech grad who's parents are huge boosters. I'm too young to remember history from that long ago. I'd love to see historical attendance numbers between the schools.

Ok, well I feel better that your a tech fan and not just an ASU fan. As Chiefsfan said, ULM has sold out our stadium several times recently. Tech couldn't do it with Mississippi St. The last sellout at tech was before the tarp expansion and that was ULM. Chief I agree Fant-Ewing is no prize, but hopefully that is being rectified.

(05-10-2014 10:21 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 10:06 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:50 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Obviously, you have either never been to a football game outside of Ruston...or have never been to Ruston.

I've been to both Ruston and Monroe. To argue that Tech has far superior facilities is ridiculous. ULM has the edge in football and baseball. Tech can talk about that great end zone facility all they want, but that's hardly going to fix the majority of the problems they have in that stadium. Not to mention the major attendance issues.

Fant Ewing is a dump though.

Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

I don't know how you manage to be a Tech/ASU fan considering the history between the two. There are a lot of ASU alums who will tell you they hate Tech worse than Memphis.

And yes, I am gladly comparing the attendance between the two. I've seen ULM draw large crowds. I have never seen Tech draw a big crowd...and putting a tarp over those seats is ridiculous.

As for ULL... We've been with them for twenty plus years, I don't see that changing any time soon.

Married a tech grad who's parents are huge boosters. I'm too young to remember history from that long ago. I'd love to see historical attendance numbers between the schools.

Ok, well I feel better that your a tech fan and not just an ASU fan. As Chiefsfan said, ULM has sold out our stadium several times recently. Tech couldn't do it with Mississippi St. The last sellout at tech was before the tarp expansion and that was ULM. Chief I agree Fant-Ewing is no prize, but hopefully that is being rectified.

Arrowhead, I have been disappointed with ULM's attendance at times; hey, I am disappointed with attendance for the Cajuns as well. That being said, props where they are due, both your program and mine have had multiple sellouts of our home stadia, while Tech never has [in the Joe's current capacity].

They like to bark about playing their 'big' games in Shreveport instead of Ruston, but then they have never drawn particularly well there, either, and when they have drawn well, it was with fans of the visiting school..

(05-10-2014 10:39 AM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 10:21 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 10:06 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:50 AM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  Went to both a few times last year. Do you really wanna compare techs attendance to ulm?! I guess I'm just a ULM hater haha..so glad UL is in our conference

I don't know how you manage to be a Tech/ASU fan considering the history between the two. There are a lot of ASU alums who will tell you they hate Tech worse than Memphis.

And yes, I am gladly comparing the attendance between the two. I've seen ULM draw large crowds. I have never seen Tech draw a big crowd...and putting a tarp over those seats is ridiculous.

As for ULL... We've been with them for twenty plus years, I don't see that changing any time soon.

Married a tech grad who's parents are huge boosters. I'm too young to remember history from that long ago. I'd love to see historical attendance numbers between the schools.

Ok, well I feel better that your a tech fan and not just an ASU fan. As Chiefsfan said, ULM has sold out our stadium several times recently. Tech couldn't do it with Mississippi St. The last sellout at tech was before the tarp expansion and that was ULM. Chief I agree Fant-Ewing is no prize, but hopefully that is being rectified.

Arrowhead, I have been disappointed with ULM's attendance at times; hey, I am disappointed with attendance for the Cajuns as well. That being said, props where they are due, both your program and mine have had multiple sellouts of our home stadia, while Tech never has [in the Joe's current capacity].

They like to bark about playing their 'big' games in Shreveport instead of Ruston, but then they have never drawn particularly well there, either, and when they have drawn well, it was with fans of the visiting school..

Agreed I've definitely been disappointed with ours and am sure will be in the future. We have proven though with the right opponent and a winning team we can sell it out. Pretty bad when you can't sell out with an SEC team. Congrats on your success with attendance lately.

(05-10-2014 09:29 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 08:55 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 01:03 AM)featherhead Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:33 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Oh well for the complimentary post I was about to make about the Cajuns. We do a lot with a little and have an admin in place that is not putting up with losing and is raising money. Tech's facilities are no better than ours and they are in the same region with less of the amenities at ULM's disposal. Hard to argue that Tech football or baseball is any better than ours. Basketball, yes, but we basically had the death penalty. For that matter they are better an ANYONE in the Belt. What I WAS going to say about the Cajuns, is that you are in a high population, growing area of the state, and are doing VERY well with your sports programs right now. Where Tech, I just don't like, I actually pull for the Cajuns to do well out of conference usually. You guys are starting to wear on that concept though. However, even as well as you are doing, I wouldn't bash us too much. With our tiny budget and low income area, we still beat you in football and split with you in basketball.

Facilities aren't better? Their end zone project is gonna blow your stadium away. And no offense, but your basketball arena sucks. Granted, you don't have alumni like Karl Malone and Paul Milsap pouring money in it.

Why would you make such unfounded statements? To my knowledge, Tech has no indoor or outdoor box seating, no skybox and an inadequate press box. It will take more than an end zone complex to "blow our stadium away", since we have a large and luxurious skybox, outdoor and enclosed box seating, a larger video board and are in the process of replacing our old field turf with a state of the art new turf. Plans are also being developed for a new end zone facility. Also, if you dislike our basketball arena, you would not like the one at Ole Miss after which ours is modeled.

I am not suggesting that our facilities cannot stand expansion and improvement, but why a fellow conference member would want to make an unfair and inaccurate comparison of our facilities relative to Tech's beats the heck out of me.

--featherhead

The Tad Pad is generally regarded to be the worst in the SEC. You were on a good roll until you played that card.

Mark, so your rebuttal is that we have a basketball arena equivalent to the worst in the SEC? I would think any of us would be happy to have facilities that are equivalent to the worst in the SEC. I'm sure any SBC school would take the worst football stadium in the SEC for sure. I doubt Tech would though since you guys think there's is Jerry's World with that new end zone facility.

You look stupid lumping me in with the crowd and I've been in Tad Pad Monroe and the city building an arena is outstanding news because the place is on par with Barton Coliseum in Little Rock.

No I wouldn't want to equal the worst of the SEC when that particular facility wouldn't be in the upper half of the Sun Belt.

And while you are busy being offended guess you frickin' ignored that I had nothing critical to say about any other facilities at ULM.

ULM's football facility is actually pretty nice despite the way it looks in pictures. ASU wants to emulate their video board I know. Baseball facility is top 5 in the league.

(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Dude, I really don't get La Tech's issue with ULM. Few others do either.

Louisiana Tech doesn't own North Louisiana. You aren't going to get them to move down to FCS. You are stuck with them in your neighborhood. But its their neighborhood too. They're underfunded to be sure, but hey, they've got a winning record over the last two years.

Lets do the math over the last 2 years (doing that to include La Tech's "great" season in 2012)

Bowl games - ULM 1, LTU 0
Bowl qualifying seasons - ULM 2, LTU 1

FBS wins - ULM 13, LTU 12
FBS wins over full FBS teams with winning records - ULM 3 LTU 1 (LTU 2 - if you include LTU's win over transitional UTSA in 2012).

Wins over AQ/P5 teams - ULM 2, LTU 2

Wins over bottom feeding SEC teams - ULM 1, LTU 1

Where's the separation?

(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

I suppose you meant to say "your assumption". In any case, what does the number of mentions ULM gets on the CUSA board have to do with anything? The App poster simply commented that his travels to Monroe, Lafayette and Ruston left him wondering what would cause any tech fan to feel superior to ULM or ULL. I can easily understand his confusion. What I suppose I don't understand is why anyone on this board should care how "the vast majority of tech fans view" anything. His credibility is intact.

--featherhead

(05-11-2014 09:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Dude, I really don't get La Tech's issue with ULM. Few others do either.

Louisiana Tech doesn't own North Louisiana. You aren't going to get them to move down to FCS. You are stuck with them in your neighborhood. But its their neighborhood too. They're underfunded to be sure, but hey, they've got a winning record over the last two years.

Lets do the math over the last 2 years (doing that to include La Tech's "great" season in 2012)

Bowl games - ULM 1, LTU 0
Bowl qualifying seasons - ULM 2, LTU 1

FBS wins - ULM 13, LTU 12
FBS wins over full FBS teams with winning records - ULM 3 LTU 1 (LTU 2 - if you include LTU's win over transitional UTSA in 2012).

Wins over AQ/P5 teams - ULM 2, LTU 2

Wins over bottom feeding SEC teams - ULM 1, LTU 1

Where's the separation?

Easily academics and sports history. Of course you look at two years, but look over the body of work. It took ulm like 15 years to have a winning season and a bowl bid. Tech had their football and basketball teams ranked during the same year just two years ago. I'd trade our last bowl and conference championship to have state in the top 25 even for a week.

(05-11-2014 10:37 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 09:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Dude, I really don't get La Tech's issue with ULM. Few others do either.

Louisiana Tech doesn't own North Louisiana. You aren't going to get them to move down to FCS. You are stuck with them in your neighborhood. But its their neighborhood too. They're underfunded to be sure, but hey, they've got a winning record over the last two years.

Lets do the math over the last 2 years (doing that to include La Tech's "great" season in 2012)

Bowl games - ULM 1, LTU 0
Bowl qualifying seasons - ULM 2, LTU 1

FBS wins - ULM 13, LTU 12
FBS wins over full FBS teams with winning records - ULM 3 LTU 1 (LTU 2 - if you include LTU's win over transitional UTSA in 2012).

Wins over AQ/P5 teams - ULM 2, LTU 2

Wins over bottom feeding SEC teams - ULM 1, LTU 1

Where's the separation?

Easily academics and sports history. Of course you look at two years, but look over the body of work. It took ulm like 15 years to have a winning season and a bowl bid. Tech had their football and basketball teams ranked during the same year just two years ago. I'd trade our last bowl and conference championship to have state in the top 25 even for a week.

I wouldn't trade with UAB, which was ranked in the top 25 for exactly one week.

How about the last 10 years?

Bowls played in - LTU 2, ULM 1
Bowl wins LTU 1, ULM 0
Bowl eligible seasons ULM 4, LTU 5
Bowl wins over teams with winning records ULM 0, LTU 0 (LTU beat a team that finished 6-7 in its bowl win)

Winning seasons - LTU 3, ULM 1

Wins over AQ/P5 teams - LTU 4, ULM 3
Wins over AQ/P5 teams finishing with a winning record - ULM 1, LTU 0
Wins over SEC teams - ULM 2, LTU 2

Total wins over full FBS teams with winning records - ULM 7, LTU 6 (LTU has 7 if a 2012 win over transitional UTSA is included).

Okay, I'll add another one. Close losses to high profile teams. LTU 1, ULM 0. But it was still a loss.
Making your team a laughingstock by being so petty as to deny your seniors a bowl game LTU 1, ULM 0.

LTU was ranked in the top 25 during one season. But ended up finishing 3rd in their conference that year.

To be honest, I was expecting to find some separation when I started pulling their records. But I'm not really finding it.

Again, where's the separation? That's in the last 10 years.

(05-11-2014 09:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Dude, I really don't get La Tech's issue with ULM. Few others do either.

Louisiana Tech doesn't own North Louisiana. You aren't going to get them to move down to FCS. You are stuck with them in your neighborhood. But its their neighborhood too. They're underfunded to be sure, but hey, they've got a winning record over the last two years.

Lets do the math over the last 2 years (doing that to include La Tech's "great" season in 2012)

Bowl games - ULM 1, LTU 0
Bowl qualifying seasons - ULM 2, LTU 1

FBS wins - ULM 13, LTU 12
FBS wins over full FBS teams with winning records - ULM 3 LTU 1 (LTU 2 - if you include LTU's win over transitional UTSA in 2012).

Wins over AQ/P5 teams - ULM 2, LTU 2

Wins over bottom feeding SEC teams - ULM 1, LTU 1

Where's the separation?

First of all, the separation I speak of is about a lot more than the last two football seasons. Tech and ULM do compete in SEPARATE conferences however, and that separates us. It doesn't mean that CUSA is better or worse than the SBC, it just means that the two are separate conferences. Tech will always strive to be separate from ULM. Like I've said before, it is about our being located on each other's doorsteps. It isn't about the schools that make up the SBC. From what I understand, Tech would not attempt to stop UL-L from being added to CUSA, but wouldn't necessarily be championing their cause either. On the other hand, Tech would fight mightily to keep ULM from ever being added to CUSA. Some SBC members take our position on this issue as a slight against the SBC, but it isn't. It isn't even a knock against ULM. It is strictly a prudent business decision about what is best for La Tech.

(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

It's not bashing if its the truth! Your Athletic Director on KNOE has flat out said we have no desire to play ULM in any sport, while the ULM athletic director said it is our goal is to play LaTech every year. What are y'all so afraid of ?

It all boils down to image. Y'all afraid of being perceived as equals. That's why your athletic director turned down the independence bowl.

(05-11-2014 09:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've never understood comments by Tech fans lording their superiority over ULM. After having been to Ruston, Monroe and Lafayette it is even harder to understand. From what I can tell Tech gets its TV coverage and airport service from Monroe. Seems like a tad bit of envy to me.

You could not be more wrong in you're assumption. Go over to the CUSA board and count the number of threads where ULM is ever mentioned. UL-L is mentioned on that forum occasionally, usually in a thread concerning a possible next round of realignment. Most of the time it stays pretty civil and doesn't turn into a UL-L bashing thread. Tech, on the other hand, is constantly brought up and bashed in threads on this board. So I ask you, just who is it that is envious of who? I think the answer is pretty obvious. And for the record, the vast majority of Tech fans view UL-L differently than they view ULM. When you lump those two together in a discussion, you lose any credibility you might have had.

Considering this is an SBC Board, ULM is an SBC Member, and you have a few former rivals playing in this league, we're probably not going to do what we can to stand with ULM.

That and Tech's refusal to play ULM reminds me very similarly of Arkansas refusal to play ASU...but in that case, at least Arkansas is a major SEC Team in state. Not even ASU fans question they are a more well known program.

Tech's refusal is kind of silly because nationally Tech and ULM are held at the same level. The only people who actually believe Tech the superior institution are Tech fans, a few CUSA fans who are doing it to support Tech, and a few Cajun fans who are doing it because they hate ULM.

If anything UL has found itself paired up with ULM. Both schools changed their name, both schools play in the same conference, both schools play football on rivalry saturday, or play later on in the season, and the national media has used this to there advantage.

The only way UL can separate itself is only by winning in every major sport, though facility improvements, getting into a different conference or ULM drop down, and academics. We still have a long way to go.

There's nothing wrong with ULM, it is the simple fact that this state has 5 FBS schools and everyone is trying to become the next major college in Louisiana. UL has there way, LaTech has a different way.