(05-07-2014 01:34 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  How did my quote get in this thread? My frickin phone is dinging like crazy...

My fault. Just wanted some context for tommy's comment. Unlike some people, I try to stay true to the discussion.

Vreen vreen VREEEEEEN!!! Why don't we just stick to golf carts.

(05-07-2014 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wrong. Smith Electric was not part of the same program that loaned money to Solyndra. They got their money granted directly from the stimulus. Those are called facts my friend.

Fail...own it. Of course you're incapable of admitting an error.

Honest mistake.

Tax dollars down the rabbit hole all look pretty much the same.

Caaauuse, Iraaaaaaggg!!!!

(05-07-2014 01:28 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  The federal stimulus was different from the green loans program, so he's not wrong.

It's called a red herring. Look it up and other logical fallacies.

Quote:That said, he's still defending something that went under and cost taxpayers and private individuals money.

Yes. Why is that?

Hey asshat? You're the one who brought in the red herring by trying to play the gotcha game. Instead, you failed. Own it.

I wasn't the one who brought Solyndra into this... YOU did...all the way back in Post #3 where you couldn't resist being a troll by involving me into something I had not even commented on yet. Stop being so obsessed with me and quit stalking me.

And when I ignored that original troll by you to get me involved...you couldn't resist...you had to go find something else to get me involved. What makes it even funnier is that in your desperate need for attention, you got owned.

And Niner, I'm not defending the program or the investment that went under. I'm only replying to poor torchy and his obsession and his need to introduce me into nearly every thread. He just can't help himself.

(05-07-2014 01:13 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 12:46 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-644643-post-977...pid9776713

Fail.

Not at all. You just got caught cherry picking data, as well as being wrong.

Wrong. Smith Electric was not part of the same program that loaned money to Solyndra.

Duh. But only you are making that assertion. Oh, and you deleted part of the thread. Yeah that will work, as if it's not just a few posts above.

Quote: They got their money granted directly from the stimulus. Those are called facts my friend.

We're not friends. You're wrong twice.

Quote:Fail...own it. Of course you're incapable of admitting an error.

No, I'm incapable of owning your error.

It is delightful to see your illogic and desperation on display though. Caught in your own semantics and attempts to deceive.

How exactly did I delete part of a thread. I'm not a moderator. Will your delusions never end?

And again...you brought up Solyndra, not me. So don't blame me when I once again make a fool of you. Own it. You failed. The thread you called me out on was about the loan program that Solyndra was a part of. Smith Electric was not part of that program. It's not the same things. Keep lying...it just makes it more enjoyable!

(05-07-2014 02:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wrong. Smith Electric was not part of the same program that loaned money to Solyndra. They got their money granted directly from the stimulus. Those are called facts my friend.

Fail...own it. Of course you're incapable of admitting an error.

Honest mistake.

For anyone else but poor torchy, I'd agree. But he needs to get it handed to him because he's a pompous ass who's incapable of manning up.

(05-07-2014 02:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:13 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 01:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fail.

Not at all. You just got caught cherry picking data, as well as being wrong.

Wrong. Smith Electric was not part of the same program that loaned money to Solyndra.

Duh. But only you are making that assertion. Oh, and you deleted part of the thread. Yeah that will work, as if it's not just a few posts above.

Quote: They got their money granted directly from the stimulus. Those are called facts my friend.

We're not friends. You're wrong twice.

Quote:Fail...own it. Of course you're incapable of admitting an error.

No, I'm incapable of owning your error.

It is delightful to see your illogic and desperation on display though. Caught in your own semantics and attempts to deceive.

How exactly did I delete part of a thread.

You excluded it in your response.

Quote: I'm not a moderator.

You are an idiot though :)

Quote:And again...you brought up Solyndra, not me. So don't blame me when I once again make a fool of you.

Please keep posting tommy. Please.

Quote: Own it.

Yes, keep begging me. You're such a cowardly POS.

Quote: The thread you called me out on

Was quoted by me. But keep deflecting. Keep trying to pretend you didn't get caught w/ your logical fallacies. It's beautiful to watch. Like a mouse in a maze. Where to turn to now tommy? Where will you go that won't put your idiocy on display. Why does Torch keep doing that to you? Why can't he just be tolerant of your ineptitude?

Quote: It's not the same things.

That's just funny by itself.

Quote: Keep lying...it just makes it more enjoyable!

When did I lie tommy? Once again, you just keep trying to deflect. Oh yes, tommy who promises to admit when he's wrong, just can't bring himself to do it every time it's pointed out.

Proof? Even when I provide quotes and links, tommy pretends it never happened. Such a weak, cowardly little thing you are tommy. It's always fun to skewer your type in public.

Evidence that Torch was wrong:

This thread is about Smith Energy, which got money from the stimulus.

Poor Torchy links to a post by me in a thread about Solyndra as proof...of what exactly...no one knows except a confused troll...lol. A thread that was 7 months old in which I correctly pointed out that only 2% of the green loans programs had failed to date. A fact which is not in question.

Solyndra was part of the DOE's 1705 loan program. Smith Electric is not.

Since no one but poor Torchy knows why he decided to link to the Solyndra thread (although we all know it was because I ignored his first troll to get me involved in this thread), we can only assume that he was somehow trying to say that both Smith and Solyndra were part of the same program. They were not.

Poor Torchy was wrong.

Will he admit that? Of course not...he'll just reply by calling me names and blah blah blah.

It's really quite amusing to watch him twist eight ways from Sunday just to avoid admitting he made a mistake.

Own it coward.

(05-07-2014 03:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Evidence that Torch was wrong:
This thread is about Smith Energy, which got money from the stimulus.
Poor Torchy links to a post by me in a thread about Solyndra as proof...of what exactly...no one knows except a confused troll...lol. A thread that was 7 months old in which I correctly pointed out that only 2% of the green loans programs had failed to date. A fact which is not in question.
Solyndra was part of the DOE's 1705 loan program. Smith Electric is not.
Since no one but poor Torchy knows why he decided to link to the Solyndra thread (although we all know it was because I ignored his first troll to get me involved in this thread), we can only assume that he was somehow trying to say that both Smith and Solyndra were part of the same program. They were not.
Poor Torchy was wrong.
Will he admit that? Of course not...he'll just reply by calling me names and blah blah blah.
It's really quite amusing to watch him twist eight ways from Sunday just to avoid admitting he made a mistake.
Own it coward.

I don't think that Torchy was saying they were the same PROGRAM but rather that they were done by the same ADMINISTRATION.

You've really gotten good at making mountains out of irrelevant hair-splitting factoid molehills. Exactly why does it matter which program we lost the money under?

(05-07-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Evidence that Torch was wrong:
This thread is about Smith Energy, which got money from the stimulus.
Poor Torchy links to a post by me in a thread about Solyndra as proof...of what exactly...no one knows except a confused troll...lol. A thread that was 7 months old in which I correctly pointed out that only 2% of the green loans programs had failed to date. A fact which is not in question.
Solyndra was part of the DOE's 1705 loan program. Smith Electric is not.
Since no one but poor Torchy knows why he decided to link to the Solyndra thread (although we all know it was because I ignored his first troll to get me involved in this thread), we can only assume that he was somehow trying to say that both Smith and Solyndra were part of the same program. They were not.
Poor Torchy was wrong.
Will he admit that? Of course not...he'll just reply by calling me names and blah blah blah.
It's really quite amusing to watch him twist eight ways from Sunday just to avoid admitting he made a mistake.
Own it coward.

I don't think that Torchy was saying they were the same PROGRAM but rather that they were done by the same ADMINISTRATION.

You've really gotten good at making mountains out of irrelevant hair-splitting factoid molehills. Exactly why does it matter which program we lost the money under?

Owl, when he specifically uses a post from me, he looses that objectivity. He could have made the point without calling me out. The post he cited had nothing to do with Smith electric and I had not even commented on this thread yet.

And he doesn't need you to speak for him...he digs his own grave quite nicely!

(05-07-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Evidence that Torch was wrong:
This thread is about Smith Energy, which got money from the stimulus.
Poor Torchy links to a post by me in a thread about Solyndra as proof...of what exactly...no one knows except a confused troll...lol. A thread that was 7 months old in which I correctly pointed out that only 2% of the green loans programs had failed to date. A fact which is not in question.
Solyndra was part of the DOE's 1705 loan program. Smith Electric is not.
Since no one but poor Torchy knows why he decided to link to the Solyndra thread (although we all know it was because I ignored his first troll to get me involved in this thread), we can only assume that he was somehow trying to say that both Smith and Solyndra were part of the same program. They were not.
Poor Torchy was wrong.
Will he admit that? Of course not...he'll just reply by calling me names and blah blah blah.
It's really quite amusing to watch him twist eight ways from Sunday just to avoid admitting he made a mistake.
Own it coward.

I don't think that Torchy was saying they were the same PROGRAM but rather that they were done by the same ADMINISTRATION.

You've really gotten good at making mountains out of irrelevant hair-splitting factoid molehills. Exactly why does it matter which program we lost the money under?

Educate me please. Is this what is called "a pig is still a pig even if you put lipstick on it" type of metaphor?

(05-07-2014 03:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  we can only assume that he was somehow trying to say that both Smith and Solyndra were part of the same program.

Nope. That is not what you can "only assume." In fact it seems that only you assumed it. No one else struggled to put together a more sensible connection, especially given the quote in the initial statement.

Now, will you own up to this mistake, and the subsequent ones you added on to this one? Like you pledged you always do?

My guess is you're frustrated that I don't let you hide behind that "so long ago I forgot about that" excuse you frequently use.

(05-07-2014 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doesn't need you to speak for him...he digs his own grave quite nicely!

Oh, please do explain tommy. You admitted that it was your assumption, not anything I explicitly wrote.