#71 should be Ohio.

If that is correct, Conference USA is the only G5 conference that will have 5 teams in the Top 70 of Myerberg's rankings.

C-USA 5
AAC 4
MAC 4
MWC 4
Sun Belt 2
plus BYU and Navy

(06-22-2014 02:12 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  #71 should be Ohio.

If that is correct, Conference USA is the only G5 conference that will have 5 teams in the Top 70 of Myerberg's rankings.

C-USA 5
AAC 4
MAC 4
MWC 4
Sun Belt 2
plus BYU and Navy

I hope the results of the season pan out similar to if not better than the USA Today predictions. Then the rhetoric about CUSA sucking should tone down a bit from the other conferences.

(06-22-2014 02:20 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 02:12 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  #71 should be Ohio.

If that is correct, Conference USA is the only G5 conference that will have 5 teams in the Top 70 of Myerberg's rankings.

C-USA 5
AAC 4
MAC 4
MWC 4
Sun Belt 2
plus BYU and Navy

I hope the results of the season pan out similar to if not better than the USA Today predictions. Then the rhetoric about CUSA sucking should tone down a bit from the other conferences.

Ohio is #71 and Middle Tennessee will be #70 based on the clue:

UP NEXT:

Who's No. 70? During the last 10 years, this program is a combined 14-20 in seasons when it allows less than 300 points.

70. Middle Tennessee State

Quote:Rather than put round pegs into square holes, Middle Tennessee State and Rick Stockstill will tailor this year's offense to its returning personnel. Take the quarterback position, for example.

Recent MTSU offenses have revolved around the forward pass: Logan Kilgore, the most recent multiple-year starter, left Murfreesboro as the school's record holder in touchdown passes (53) and 200-yard games (21), ranking second on the Blue Raiders' all-time list with 7,849 passing yards.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../11280059/

(06-24-2014 12:20 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  70. Middle Tennessee -----

Quote:Rather than put round pegs into square holes, Middle Tennessee State and Rick Stockstill will tailor this year's offense to its returning personnel. Take the quarterback position, for example.

Recent MTSU offenses have revolved around the forward pass: Logan Kilgore, the most recent multiple-year starter, left Murfreesboro as the school's record holder in touchdown passes (53) and 200-yard games (21), ranking second on the Blue Raiders' all-time list with 7,849 passing yards.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../11280059/

FIFY

Not a bad write up, but he makes it sound like we're going to be trotting the NFL version of Ryan Leaf out there.

All three of the QB's on the roster come in with better credentials than any QB's we've ever signed before, so there is some talent at the position. Whoever wins the job will just need some time to grow as a leader of the offense.

This write up looks like a MT/Marshall pregame write up.

69. Indiana

68. Tennessee

67. Minnesota

66. Utah
65. UNT

One could base North Texas' preseason expectations on the Mean Green's returning talent, or the lack thereof: UNT brings back only nine starters, the fewest in Conference USA and the second-fewest in the Football Bowl Subdivision, ahead of only Utah State.

This is an issue, one would say, though it's largely tempered by the way this program has grasped Dan McCarney's system – a process that led the Mean Green from a combined nine wins from 2011-12 to a nine-win finish last fall, UNT's top single-season total since 2003.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../11633619/

65. North Texas

Quote:One could base North Texas' preseason expectations on the Mean Green's returning talent, or the lack thereof: UNT brings back only nine starters, the fewest in Conference USA and the second-fewest in the Football Bowl Subdivision, ahead of only Utah State.

This is an issue, one would say, though it's largely tempered by the way this program has grasped Dan McCarney's system – a process that led the Mean Green from a combined nine wins from 2011-12 to a nine-win finish last fall, UNT's top single-season total since 2003.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../11633619/

(06-30-2014 11:41 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  65. North Texas

Quote:One could base North Texas' preseason expectations on the Mean Green's returning talent, or the lack thereof: UNT brings back only nine starters, the fewest in Conference USA and the second-fewest in the Football Bowl Subdivision, ahead of only Utah State.

This is an issue, one would say, though it's largely tempered by the way this program has grasped Dan McCarney's system – a process that led the Mean Green from a combined nine wins from 2011-12 to a nine-win finish last fall, UNT's top single-season total since 2003.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../11633619/

Whoever wrote this doesn't know beans about what North Texas is returning this season. It's okay. I hope the teams on our schedule overlook us too.

(06-30-2014 03:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Whoever wrote this doesn't know beans about what North Texas is returning this season. It's okay. I hope the teams on our schedule overlook us too. I can't wait for this season to kickoff down in Austin.

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Phile Steele has you returning the same amount. Not sure what kind of ranking you were expecting. Rice and UTSA should be coming up pretty soon as well imo. Marshall should be the only one that deserves to sneak into the 30s or 40s.

Also:

Quote:t's Texas to start and Rice on Oct. 25, with the latter joining a date with burgeoning monster Texas-San Antonio on Nov. 29 in determining UNT's final spot in the West Division's pecking order. The rest won't pack the seats nor ratchet up the ratings, but that's fine for McCarney and friends: UNT couldn't ask for an easier road.

(06-30-2014 04:20 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 03:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Whoever wrote this doesn't know beans about what North Texas is returning this season. It's okay. I hope the teams on our schedule overlook us too. I can't wait for this season to kickoff down in Austin.

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Phile Steele has you returning the same amount. Not sure what kind of ranking you were expecting. Rice and UTSA should be coming up pretty soon as well imo. Marshall should be the only one that deserves to sneak into the 30s or 40s.

I have no problem with the ranking. It is about what I was expecting. I take issue with his understanding of our personnel. I don't take exception with the number of returning players we have coming back. The number is the number. The problem is this person has never seen Sid Ellis, Fred Scott, or Erick Evans play. He has no idea what these new starters can do on the field. Some people are going to be very surprised. We are good enough to finish higher then 3rd in the West.

(06-30-2014 04:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 04:20 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 03:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Whoever wrote this doesn't know beans about what North Texas is returning this season. It's okay. I hope the teams on our schedule overlook us too. I can't wait for this season to kickoff down in Austin.

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Phile Steele has you returning the same amount. Not sure what kind of ranking you were expecting. Rice and UTSA should be coming up pretty soon as well imo. Marshall should be the only one that deserves to sneak into the 30s or 40s.

I have no problem with the ranking. It is about what I was expecting. I take issue with his understanding of our personnel. I don't take exception with the number of returning players we have coming back. The number is the number. The problem is this person has never seen Sid Ellis, Fred Scott, or Erick Evans play. He has no idea what these new starters can do on the field. Some people are going to be very surprised. We are good enough to finish higher then 3rd in the West.

I thought he was very positive about UNT. I'm surprised he has you this high just due to amount of starters your lost. It's a compliment to lose most of your team and still be 65 in the nation. That's "reloading" not "rebuilding."

(06-30-2014 04:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 04:20 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 03:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Whoever wrote this doesn't know beans about what North Texas is returning this season. It's okay. I hope the teams on our schedule overlook us too. I can't wait for this season to kickoff down in Austin.

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Phile Steele has you returning the same amount. Not sure what kind of ranking you were expecting. Rice and UTSA should be coming up pretty soon as well imo. Marshall should be the only one that deserves to sneak into the 30s or 40s.

I have no problem with the ranking. It is about what I was expecting. I take issue with his understanding of our personnel. I don't take exception with the number of returning players we have coming back. The number is the number. The problem is this person has never seen Sid Ellis, Fred Scott, or Erick Evans play. He has no idea what these new starters can do on the field. Some people are going to be very surprised. We are good enough to finish higher then 3rd in the West.

You accuse Meyerberg of never having seen Sed Ellis play, based on what? He describes Ellis as "a 190-pound missile with the athleticism to succeed in space". You take offense to that assessment, why? How much more complimentary should an objective assessment of a freshman that made a total of 6 tackles last season be? BTW, its Sed, not Sid. At least Myerberg got his name right.

I've found Paul Myerberg to consistently be one of the most well informed, and one of the most pro-G5, voices covering college sports. You sound like you're mad that he gave an honest, unbiased assessment instead of writing an over the top, gushing love letter like an overly optimistic fan.

(06-30-2014 05:31 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 04:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 04:20 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 03:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Whoever wrote this doesn't know beans about what North Texas is returning this season. It's okay. I hope the teams on our schedule overlook us too. I can't wait for this season to kickoff down in Austin.

?

Phile Steele has you returning the same amount. Not sure what kind of ranking you were expecting. Rice and UTSA should be coming up pretty soon as well imo. Marshall should be the only one that deserves to sneak into the 30s or 40s.

I have no problem with the ranking. It is about what I was expecting. I take issue with his understanding of our personnel. I don't take exception with the number of returning players we have coming back. The number is the number. The problem is this person has never seen Sid Ellis, Fred Scott, or Erick Evans play. He has no idea what these new starters can do on the field. Some people are going to be very surprised. We are good enough to finish higher then 3rd in the West.

You accuse Meyerberg of never having seen Sed Ellis play, based on what? He describes Ellis as "a 190-pound missile with the athleticism to succeed in space". You take offense to that assessment, why? How much more complimentary should an objective assessment of a freshman that made a total of 6 tackles last season be? BTW, its Sed, not Sid. At least Myerberg got his name right.

I've found Paul Myerberg to consistently be one of the most well informed, and one of the most pro-G5, voices covering college sports. You sound like you're mad that he gave an honest, unbiased assessment instead of writing an over the top, gushing love letter like an overly optimistic fan.

I don't understand. I thought it was a very objective assessment. Did you think UNT was going to be in the top 10?

I don't think Side Show Joe read the article. The entire article is him explaining why you can't just look at returning starters and explains that argument by looking at the guys on the roster. By far one of the more in depth write ups outside of our beat writer. This is an optimistic article. One NT fans should be happy about.

Perhaps we haven't had one of those in a while and forgot how to react and feel when people are writing good things.

He didn't get everything right, but it was a pretty fair assessment. 7-5 should be about right. Anything better would require a lot of young players to really step it up and a few breaks. I would take 7 wins in the regular season and a chance for 8 in a bowl, considering how many starters were lost, just on D. Ask LaTech and Tulsa how easy it is to repeat a successful season when you lose most of your team.