106. Old Dominion

Quote:Don't blame Old Dominion for throwing in the towel. In 1940, the program's final season before embarking on a 68-year absence, the Monarchs played six teams and scored zero points, failing to put the ball into the end zone against the murderer's row of Bergen Junior College, Belmont Abbey and Newport News Apprentice School, among three others.

Not that losing alone led ODU football to shutter its doors. For starters, the Monarchs' conference decided after that 1940 season that two-year institutions – ODU then being one – could no longer play freshmen, cramping the school's roster pool; that, in conjunction with a $10,000 debt, forced the university's hand.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...r/8987031/

(05-13-2014 10:24 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  106. Old Dominion

Quote:Don't blame Old Dominion for throwing in the towel. In 1940, the program's final season before embarking on a 68-year absence, the Monarchs played six teams and scored zero points, failing to put the ball into the end zone against the murderer's row of Bergen Junior College, Belmont Abbey and Newport News Apprentice School, among three others.

Not that losing alone led ODU football to shutter its doors. For starters, the Monarchs' conference decided after that 1940 season that two-year institutions – ODU then being one – could no longer play freshmen, cramping the school's roster pool; that, in conjunction with a $10,000 debt, forced the university's hand.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...r/8987031/

That was in interesting choice of quotes to share regarding the 2014 Monarchs. Perhaps this might have been a better one.

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SEASON BREAKDOWN & PREDICTION:
In a nutshell: Of all the FCS-to-FBS additions of the last five years – and there have been many – Old Dominion is the best prepared to avoid a distressing, often ugly debut and make an immediate impact. Hence the Monarchs' higher ranking, relatively speaking; most FBS neophytes get chewed up and spit out against the higher level of competition, but ODU has the coaching, scheme and proven production to be a solid first-year addition to Conference USA, bypassing the cellar and adding some interest to the East Division race. I don't want to oversell things, but it seems obvious: ODU is in good shape.

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(05-13-2014 12:27 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:24 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  106. Old Dominion

Quote:Don't blame Old Dominion for throwing in the towel. In 1940, the program's final season before embarking on a 68-year absence, the Monarchs played six teams and scored zero points, failing to put the ball into the end zone against the murderer's row of Bergen Junior College, Belmont Abbey and Newport News Apprentice School, among three others.

Not that losing alone led ODU football to shutter its doors. For starters, the Monarchs' conference decided after that 1940 season that two-year institutions – ODU then being one – could no longer play freshmen, cramping the school's roster pool; that, in conjunction with a $10,000 debt, forced the university's hand.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...r/8987031/

That was in interesting choice of quotes to share regarding the 2014 Monarchs. Perhaps this might have been a better one.

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SEASON BREAKDOWN & PREDICTION:
In a nutshell: Of all the FCS-to-FBS additions of the last five years – and there have been many – Old Dominion is the best prepared to avoid a distressing, often ugly debut and make an immediate impact. Hence the Monarchs' higher ranking, relatively speaking; most FBS neophytes get chewed up and spit out against the higher level of competition, but ODU has the coaching, scheme and proven production to be a solid first-year addition to Conference USA, bypassing the cellar and adding some interest to the East Division race. I don't want to oversell things, but it seems obvious: ODU is in good shape.

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I take the first two lines of the article. If anyone wants more, follow the link...

(05-13-2014 10:24 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  106. Old Dominion

Quote:Don't blame Old Dominion for throwing in the towel. In 1940, the program's final season before embarking on a 68-year absence, the Monarchs played six teams and scored zero points, failing to put the ball into the end zone against the murderer's row of Bergen Junior College, Belmont Abbey and Newport News Apprentice School, among three others.

Not that losing alone led ODU football to shutter its doors. For starters, the Monarchs' conference decided after that 1940 season that two-year institutions – ODU then being one – could no longer play freshmen, cramping the school's roster pool; that, in conjunction with a $10,000 debt, forced the university's hand.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...r/8987031/

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ODU at that time was a two year school. In 1930, the College of William and Mary developed a two-year campus in Norfolk, located in the former Larchmont grade school on Hampton Boulevard ( Initially known as the Norfolk Division of the College William and Mary). They were basically an engineering arm for prep to the College of William and Mary.

The College of William and Mary, Norfolk division in an effort to increase enrollment before and during World War II, the school began teaching industrial and academic war training courses for the Navy. After the war, these courses were expanded into the Technical Institute, a new division of the college. In 1940 the school was feeling the effects of pre war efforts and many young men in Norfolk felt the obligation to join the Navy. All the clues for a dramatic event were being forecast. The "Braves," the junior college version of William and Mary's "Indians," football team also had losses and casualties to the decreasing numbers of men that were available to enroll and to play football from the campus. * Almost every player played on offense and defense. My understanding is there were no scholarships for team members at all.

The record is deceiving the 1940-41 teams lost all 6 games played, however from (1930-1941), they had an overall record of 62-19-4. The program was discontinued due to a rule against freshman players. Leaving only 2nd year students in a two year school to play. If you take out the six losses they boost of one of the most successful programs of the era (62-13-4).

Just for the record.

link ... http://www.lib.odu.edu/exhibits/football...9/1930.htm

105. Wake Forest
104. Kentucky

Bump

updated list in first post

Conference breakdown so far

AAC: 2
ACC: 1
B1G: 2
B12: 2
CUSA: 5
Indy: 1
MAC: 5
MWC: 5
P12: 2
SEC: 1
SBC: 5

FAU just came in at 97. But yeah, UTSA keeps getting shafted by the media. /rolling eyes

(05-24-2014 05:58 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  FAU just came in at 97. But yeah, UTSA keeps getting shafted by the media. /rolling eyes

will update... Myerburg has taken the past couple of days off

97. Florida Atlantic

Quote:South Florida-raised Charlie Partridge returns to his old stomping grounds with a reputation as a dogged and tireless recruiter of the region's fertile base, thanks to his turns reeling some of the area's best away from home while a Bret Bielema assistant at Wisconsin and Arkansas.

It's a new job, a new role and a new mindset: Rather than entice South Florida's top prospects – those without offers from Miami, Florida, Florida State and a few others, at least – to move north, Partridge must convince the area's best to stay home, enlisting with a Florida Atlantic program starving for a foothold in this talent-rich state.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...r/9511557/

(05-24-2014 06:03 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  97. Florida Atlantic

Quote:South Florida-raised Charlie Partridge returns to his old stomping grounds with a reputation as a dogged and tireless recruiter of the region's fertile base, thanks to his turns reeling some of the area's best away from home while a Bret Bielema assistant at Wisconsin and Arkansas.

It's a new job, a new role and a new mindset: Rather than entice South Florida's top prospects – those without offers from Miami, Florida, Florida State and a few others, at least – to move north, Partridge must convince the area's best to stay home, enlisting with a Florida Atlantic program starving for a foothold in this talent-rich state.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...r/9511557/

Sorry but this is a bunch of cow manure. FAU is a darn good team. I expect them to be a bowl eligible team in 2014.

(05-24-2014 05:58 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  FAU just came in at 97. But yeah, UTSA keeps getting shafted by the media. /rolling eyes

We had a better record than you and are bringing most of our starters... Why would we be ranked lower than FAU?

ECU fans are gone so we need another set of fans that constantly feel disrespected. UTSA fans are filling a need of the board, so I thank them for their service.

(05-24-2014 11:40 PM)banker Wrote:  ECU fans are gone so we need another set of fans that constantly feel disrespected. UTSA fans are filling a need of the board, so I thank them for their service.

Most rankings I've seen have UTSA first in the West and second overall in the conference (behind Marshall) so I don't think any of us are complaining.

An FAU fan brought UTSA up, not us. He seems to be implying they should be higher than UTSA even though there really is no reason why that should be the case.

(05-25-2014 05:03 AM)correcamino Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 11:40 PM)banker Wrote:  ECU fans are gone so we need another set of fans that constantly feel disrespected. UTSA fans are filling a need of the board, so I thank them for their service.

Most rankings I've seen have UTSA first in the West and second overall in the conference (behind Marshall) so I don't think any of us are complaining.

An FAU fan brought UTSA up, not us. He seems to be implying they should be higher than UTSA even though there really is no reason why that should be the case.

I never said FAU should be ranked higher than UTSA, I said "And UTSA keeps getting shafted by the media. /rolling eyes"
If you think that means FAU should be ranked higher than UTSA, then you need to retake some English comprehension courses. It means that UTSA fans always complain about the media shafting them, thinking they are worse than what they really are. While I do agree that the media does this to UTSA, the media does this to FAU much more.

BTW, you return your entire team but your QB. We return our entire team but our DE. So yeah....

I can't believe I had to spell that out for some of you.

(05-25-2014 10:11 AM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  I never said FAU should be ranked higher than UTSA, I said "And UTSA keeps getting shafted by the media. /rolling eyes"
If you think that means FAU should be ranked higher than UTSA, then you need to retake some English comprehension courses. It means that UTSA fans always complain about the media shafting them, thinking they are worse than what they really are. While I do agree that the media does this to UTSA, the media does this to FAU much more.

BTW, you return your entire team but your QB. We return our entire team but our DE. So yeah....

I can't believe I had to spell that out for some of you.

The meaning of your post is not as obvious as you make it seem. Agree that FAU should be ranked higher, but you can make that point without bringing up UTSA and the eye roll. Youre rolling your eyes at our complaints and suggesting your complaints are more valid.

Your record wasnt as good though. You also have a new, inexperienced coach. So on paper (which is all we can go off of until games are actually played) you are not as good.

FAU had a much better defense last year than UTSA and have a lot of it back. Offense wasn't nearly as good, but they had a first year QB who got better throughout the season. I would pick the home team in a game between the two.

(05-25-2014 04:31 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 10:11 AM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  I never said FAU should be ranked higher than UTSA, I said "And UTSA keeps getting shafted by the media. /rolling eyes"
If you think that means FAU should be ranked higher than UTSA, then you need to retake some English comprehension courses. It means that UTSA fans always complain about the media shafting them, thinking they are worse than what they really are. While I do agree that the media does this to UTSA, the media does this to FAU much more.

BTW, you return your entire team but your QB. We return our entire team but our DE. So yeah....

I can't believe I had to spell that out for some of you.

The meaning of your post is not as obvious as you make it seem. Agree that FAU should be ranked higher, but you can make that point without bringing up UTSA and the eye roll. Youre rolling your eyes at our complaints and suggesting your complaints are more valid.

Your record wasnt as good though. You also have a new, inexperienced coach. So on paper (which is all we can go off of until games are actually played) you are not as good.

You had one more win than us. We lost to the CUSA East and West division champs by a combined five points (vs. Rice with our back up QB, and we had the lead until the last minute. vs Marshall in a last second FG). We didn't need a last second FG to beat Tulane; we dominated them. We played a team that was in the national championship. We return our ENTIRE TEAM including #11 ranked D, except one LB and an DE, both have easily been replaced by arguably better players that now have game experience. You also return your entire team, except your QB. Our new HC is bringing in an awesome recruiting class, and already has a top 30 class for the next two years. We also had a new HC in the middle of last season, which actually saw an increase in offensive output and defensive domination. That interim HC has been kept on staff as the OC. The new HC is keeping the offensive spread option formation and the defensive 4-2-5 formation. So judging by what happened after the old HC left midseason, the new HC will have little negative effect on the growth of the team.
I mean jeez, at least people are predicting you guys to finish in the top two of your division. The only people that are saying that about FAU are the posters here, national media thinks it's same old same old in Boca. Yeah it was justified the past six years, but not anymore.
If we're going off paper, like you said, then I'm going to say UTSA will finish in the middle of the the West because they will see a sharp decline in offensive efficiency due to lack of experience at QB as Soza is no longer with the team. But that doesn't make much sense either now does it? Because I've actually seen UTSA play the majority of their games this past season and have actively done REAL research, I know that result will most likely not be the case. But hey, if we're going off on what's on paper...

(05-25-2014 10:57 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  You had one more win than us. We lost to the CUSA East and West division champs by a combined five points (vs. Rice with our back up QB, and we had the lead until the last minute. vs Marshall in a last second FG). We didn't need a last second FG to beat Tulane; we dominated them. We played a team that was in the national championship. We return our ENTIRE TEAM including #11 ranked D, except one LB and an DE, both have easily been replaced by arguably better players that now have game experience. You also return your entire team, except your QB. Our new HC is bringing in an awesome recruiting class, and already has a top 30 class for the next two years. We also had a new HC in the middle of last season, which actually saw an increase in offensive output and defensive domination. That interim HC has been kept on staff as the OC. The new HC is keeping the offensive spread option formation and the defensive 4-2-5 formation. So judging by what happened after the old HC left midseason, the new HC will have little negative effect on the growth of the team.
I mean jeez, at least people are predicting you guys to finish in the top two of your division. The only people that are saying that about FAU are the posters here, national media thinks it's same old same old in Boca. Yeah it was justified the past six years, but not anymore.
If we're going off paper, like you said, then I'm going to say UTSA will finish in the middle of the the West because they will see a sharp decline in offensive efficiency due to lack of experience at QB as Soza is no longer with the team. But that doesn't make much sense either now does it? Because I've actually seen UTSA play the majority of their games this past season and have actively done REAL research, I know that result will most likely not be the case. But hey, if we're going off on what's on paper...

What UTSA fan is complaining this year? We complained last year bc we were predicted to finish last in the conference and win a total of 1-2 games. This season we've gotten plenty of respect imo. Regarding FAU, I already said I agree that you guys should be higher. But again why can't you express that opinion without rolling your eyes at UTSA?

I'm not going to cash checks our players have to write by claiming UTSA will win at Boca. I think both teams should be solid this season and the game will be a good one. All I'm saying is that we are better on paper despite your biased post trying to argue otherwise. The thing is though these paper rankings mean absolutely nothing so why get bent out of shape about them? Both our teams were predicted to be much worse than what we were last year.

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