I've thought about this before, but with all of these issues up in the air on so many levels, I'd think you'd want to try and cling to and mimic the P5 conferences as best as you can, otherwise you're going to get left behind....

(05-02-2014 01:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  The best GO5 team needs to play a good P5 team in an access bowl.

However as a non-AQ fan I wouldn't mind seeing the #2 and #3 GO5 team play each other in a bowl game. Though AAC, MWC and CUSA wont agree to that because their #1 spot is vs a P5 team. This #2 vs #3 GO5 game would benefit the P5 schools P5 schools, the MAC and Sun Belt.

If the G5 want to do something, they should reallocate 12 million dollars of the 85 million dollars the G5 was given by the College Football Playoff to split among themselves. Use that 12 million to create 3 new bowl games.

G5 #1 champ goes to AQ CFP Bowl (already set up)

G-5 #2 champ vs P5 #3/4 G5 get 2 mil/P5 get 3 mill (new)

G5 #3 champ vs P5- #3/4 G5 get 2 mill/P5 gets 3 mill (new)

G5 #4 champ vs G5 #5 champ 1 million each (new)


The G5 would own these 3 new "champions bowls" and get all ticket sales, sponsorship rights, and TV rights money. If they break even, the cost of creating a quality post season bowl destination for every G5 conference is zero. Seems like a much better idea than splitting away and creating some playoff that nobody will care about.

This may be happening piecemeal without any real cooperation by the G5. The recent creation of the Miami Beach Bowl (owned by the AAC) and the purchase of the Bahamas Bowl by CUSA might means that at least two G5 conferences might be heading in this direction without any help from the other G5 conferences. If the AAC and CUSA are able to prop up the payouts of these two bowls enough to attract a mid tier P-5 opponent, then they will have succeeded in creating their own quality post season destination for their respective champions.

I doubt any top 12 ranked P5 program or its fans wants to play a top 5 GO5 team in a bowl game. The risk of losing to a GO5 team is not worth whatever publicity they get from being in that bowl, even if they make some money on the game.

The only way I could see this happening is if the GO5 vs P5 access bowl gets much better TV ratings than the other Access Bowl games featuring P5 vs P5 for the next 6 years. Then the TV money and could help make it happen.

(05-02-2014 10:06 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Might as well make it official and stop pretending FBS is one division instead of 2.

I agree. Plus I think it would be fun and would draw a lot more interest than some think.

(05-02-2014 02:30 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  The best GO5 team needs to play a good P5 team in an access bowl.

However as a non-AQ fan I wouldn't mind seeing the #2 and #3 GO5 team play each other in a bowl game. Though AAC, MWC and CUSA wont agree to that because their #1 spot is vs a P5 team. This #2 vs #3 GO5 game would benefit the P5 schools P5 schools, the MAC and Sun Belt.

If the G5 want to do something, they should reallocate 12 million dollars of the 85 million dollars the G5 was given by the College Football Playoff to split among themselves. Use that 12 million to create 3 new bowl games.

G5 #1 champ goes to AQ CFP Bowl (already set up)

G-5 #2 champ vs P5 #3/4 G5 get 2 mil/P5 get 3 mill (new)

G5 #3 champ vs P5- #3/4 G5 get 2 mill/P5 gets 3 mill (new)

G5 #4 champ vs G5 #5 champ 1 million each (new)


The G5 would own these 3 new "champions bowls" and get all ticket sales, sponsorship rights, and TV rights money. If they break even, the cost of creating a quality post season bowl destination for every G5 conference is zero. Seems like a much better idea than splitting away and creating some playoff that nobody will care about.

This may be happening piecemeal without any real cooperation by the G5. The recent creation of the Miami Beach Bowl (owned by the AAC) and the purchase of the Bahamas Bowl by CUSA might means that at least two G5 conferences might be heading in this direction without any help from the other G5 conferences. If the AAC and CUSA are able to prop up the payouts of these two bowls enough to attract a mid tier P-5 opponent, then they will have succeeded in creating their own quality post season destination for their respective champions.

I doubt any top 12 ranked P5 program or its fans wants to play a top 5 GO5 team in a bowl game. The risk of losing to a GO5 team is not worth whatever publicity they get from being in that bowl, even if they make some money on the game.

The only way I could see this happening is if the GO5 vs P5 access bowl gets much better TV ratings than the other Access Bowl games featuring P5 vs P5 for the next 6 years. Then the TV money and could help make it happen.

It would be top 20, not top 12. It may not even be that good. Maybe the best you can do is a #5 selection for a P5. The bottom line is---if you pay enough, somebody will bite. There are not going to be any New Years Days bowls that are not CFP related for the most part--so money might talk. They are a 4th place team playing a champion. That's not a terrible matchup.

I actually think if the G5 could get a deal with Fox or NBC for this idea and "TRULY" support it against the P5, it could work. That is the question, will some commit to it like the Old AFL and work on then having a G5 champ play the P5 champ a week later.

The two options

1. Try to stay with the P5 who is will gladly pay off and try to minimize G5s
2. Or, take the Gamble and try to show they are the quality product they G5 thinks it is if a network can be found.

NO... The AAC has good football programs in larger markets for this to even be considered.

What would certainly make the bowl picture more interesting is if the four champions from the G5 who didn't make it to the Access Bowl played each other.

For example:

New Orleans Bowl - SBC vs MWC
Bahamas Bowl - MAC vs CUSA

Since all five G5 champions would be accounted for, all of the other bowl pairings start with the #2 picks from each conference or lower.

(05-02-2014 05:49 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  What would certainly make the bowl picture more interesting is if the four champions from the G5 who didn't make it to the Access Bowl played each other.

For example:

New Orleans Bowl - SBC vs MWC
Bahamas Bowl - MAC vs CUSA

Since all five G5 champions would be accounted for, all of the other bowl pairings start with the #2 picks from each conference or lower.

There's plenty of G5 vs G5 games. The trick is to create 2 more really good P5 vs G5 games.

(05-02-2014 05:49 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  What would certainly make the bowl picture more interesting is if the four champions from the G5 who didn't make it to the Access Bowl played each other.

For example:

New Orleans Bowl - SBC vs MWC
Bahamas Bowl - MAC vs CUSA

Since all five G5 champions would be accounted for, all of the other bowl pairings start with the #2 picks from each conference or lower.

I seriously doubt the AAC would buy-in to this such playoff proposal.

(05-02-2014 11:30 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  It appears the question is do the 1AA and G5 schools merge?

That would be a horrendous mistake for the G5.

(05-02-2014 06:30 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:30 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  It appears the question is do the 1AA and G5 schools merge?

That would be a horrendous mistake for the G5.

The G5 isn't merging with FCS. That's just Wikie being Wilkie.

(05-02-2014 06:30 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:30 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  It appears the question is do the 1AA and G5 schools merge?

That would be a horrendous mistake for the G5.

Yep. There are only a hand-full of schools in all of FCS that could fit an average G5 profile. The only ones that I can think of are: JMU, Delaware, Montana, Montana State and North Dakota State. There are maybe a dozen others that have the potential if they truly invest in their facilities. The only ones that I can think of are: UC-Davis, Northern Iowa, Missouri State, Illinois State, South Dakota State, and a few others that I can't think of right now. After that there is a whole lot of nothing.

This is one of the reasons I disagree with those that say it would be the end of the world if P5 would ever form their own division. The G5 is nothing at all like FCS. If all of G5 collectively is the equivalent of one P5 conference, then all of FCS in its entirety is the equivalent of the Sunbelt.