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ESPN: ACC schedule not set as 8/9 Game Vote looms...
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The SEC's recent decision to stick with an eight-game league schedule leaves the ACC as the lone conference among the Power Five that has yet to determine its future conference schedule, and the athletic directors throughout the ACC remain undecided as a potential vote could be just weeks away at the league's annual spring meetings in Amelia Island.

ESPN.com recently interviewed every athletic director in the ACC about their scheduling preference, and there was no overwhelming majority. Half of the athletic directors -- including a surprising vote from Georgia Tech, which already has a built-in rival against Georgia -- were in favor of a nine-game conference schedule. Three schools -- Boston College, Virginia Tech and North Carolina -- didn't give a specific preference, and three schools -- Duke, Clemson and Florida State -- would prefer to stay at eight games. Louisville AD Tom Jurich, who was simply thrilled to be a member of the conference this summer, was indifferent.


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Sounds like GTS needs to get his buddies on the phone to the AD over there...
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RE: ESPN: ACC schedule not set as 8/9 Game Vote looms...
Why would the ACC ask the NCAA to deregulate the championship game if they didnt prefer that route though? Would be typical ACC to F it up tho.
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RE: ESPN: ACC schedule not set as 8/9 Game Vote looms...
Hopefully 8 games wins out but I'm not sure it will if UVA, Georgia Tech and Miami are for 9 games too.

Another way to look at it is that Pitt's AD is wrong about almost everything so if he's for 9 games, 8 games is best.
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RE: ESPN: ACC schedule not set as 8/9 Game Vote looms...
(04-29-2014 08:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Why would the ACC ask the NCAA to deregulate the championship game if they didnt prefer that route though? Would be typical ACC to F it up tho.

i forget when the interviews were but it is possible the interviews were before deregulation became more of a possibility. If that's true, some AD's may have changed their mind if they get some of the schools more often.
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suprised that many are for it-but some it may tied to keeping the divisions
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RE: ESPN: ACC schedule not set as 8/9 Game Vote looms...
The 3 rivalry way gives the ACC better football matchups and enhances the football product. So they will keep the same crappy divisions that make absolutely no sense whatsoever and further waste their resources. That is the way the ACC operates. It's the only league in college football that has divisions that make absolutely no sense at all.

They'll probably go with the stupid 9 game plan and screw FSU/Clemson again. This will take away premiere OOC matchups or extra home games for revenue. Of course most of the teams who want this can't have premiere OOC games because they suck. No idea why Miami is going along with this unless they dont want to play any challenging games OOC or want to continue to rot in mediocrity.
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(04-29-2014 08:56 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  suprised that many are for it-but some it may tied to keeping the divisions

That's got to be the case, right? Without divisions, and with the SEC at at eight, it would be madness to go to nine. Why on earth would you want to pin seven more losses on ACC teams when your conference is struggling to get their football footing?

I really think the ADs for nine just want to get out from under some of the effort and expense of football scheduling, which takes up an inordinate amount of their time.

I have to guess is that if it is split, the ones in favor of eight games are a hell of a lot more passionate about it than the ones that want nine, and can point to actual damages, and also happen to be the ones carrying the football flag for the entire conference.

If the ACC defies that in favor of a bunch of barely-serious football programs that want to save the $1M and the headach of bringing in New Mexico State, I would be absolutely flabergasted. That would be SO old ACC, and out of step with all the good moves they've made in the past couple years.

I might not like some of the things about the ACC basketball setup, but as an FSU fan I'm smart enough to know that what's good for Duke and UNC is good for the conference and benefits FSU, even though I might not like it or think it's fair.

I've been a heavy critic of the ACC in the past, but been strongly supporting what they've done the last couple years and have been all about giving them every benefit of the doubt that they are a changed league and have their act together. Ramming nine games down FSU and Clemson's throat for no good reason would fly in the face of everything I've wanted to believe has changed about the ACC.
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8 games, no divisions, done
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RE: ESPN: ACC schedule not set as 8/9 Game Vote looms...
If they're tied to divisions, and then 9, maybe its time to look at revamping the divisions themselves again.
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(04-29-2014 09:43 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 games, no divisions, done

More like Tom Jurich...happy either way just glad to be in the ACC...but no Divisions 8 Games make more sense...with Divisions than go to 9 games...
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(04-29-2014 09:46 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:43 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 games, no divisions, done

More like Tom Jurich...happy either way just glad to be in the ACC...but no Divisions 8 Games make more sense...with Divisions than go to 9 games...

Maybe Tom needs to speak up.
8 games with current divisions - play VT and Miami at home once every 10 years.
keep divisions but go 9 games - it still takes 5 years
scrap divisions and stay at 8 - it only takes 4 years
scrap divisions and go to 9 - it STILL takes 4 years!
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(04-29-2014 09:03 AM)Ragu Wrote:  No idea why Miami is going along with this unless they dont want to play any challenging games OOC or want to continue to rot in mediocrity.

Miami's AD said in the article that they want to play every team more often. Golden supposedly favors the 9 game schedule too. Personally, I don't see why they would want 9 ACC games considering that we have not even won the Coastal yet.

In regards to playing a tougher OOC schedule, I read a short time back that our administration wants Golden in a "more favorable" situation scheduling-wise by playing 1 marquee game per year, 1 cupcake, and 2 games where Miami will be favored to win. We seem to have done that this year with Nebraska being our marquee game, Fla A&M being our cupcake and Cincy and Ark State being our 2 'favorite-to-win' games.

Until we can become the Canes of old, this is where we are headed scheduling wise.
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(04-29-2014 10:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:46 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:43 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 games, no divisions, done

More like Tom Jurich...happy either way just glad to be in the ACC...but no Divisions 8 Games make more sense...with Divisions than go to 9 games...

Maybe Tom needs to speak up.
8 games with current divisions - play VT and Miami at home once every 10 years.
keep divisions but go 9 games - it still takes 5 years
scrap divisions and stay at 8 - it only takes 2 years

ACC schedule vote in May. We become member of ACC in July. We should not voice an opinion on anything pending and/or being debated by the ACC until we are members. Jurich said the right thing and it really is how the vast majority of UofL fans feel (right now)!
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(04-29-2014 10:27 AM)Dasville Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 10:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:46 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:43 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 games, no divisions, done

More like Tom Jurich...happy either way just glad to be in the ACC...but no Divisions 8 Games make more sense...with Divisions than go to 9 games...

Maybe Tom needs to speak up.
8 games with current divisions - play VT and Miami at home once every 10 years.
keep divisions but go 9 games - it still takes 5 years
scrap divisions and stay at 8 - it only takes 2 years

ACC schedule vote in May. We become member of ACC in July. We should not voice an opinion on anything pending and/or being debated by the ACC until we are members. Jurich said the right thing and it really is how the vast majority of UofL fans feel (right now)!

Would much rather be in the league for a few years and earn our way before speaking up on anything right now.....04-cheers
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(04-29-2014 09:22 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  Without divisions, and with the SEC at at eight, it would be madness to go to nine. Why on earth would you want to pin seven more losses on ACC teams when your conference is struggling to get their football footing?

^ A good question...

(04-29-2014 09:22 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  I really think the ADs for nine just want to get out from under some of the effort and expense of football scheduling, which takes up an inordinate amount of their time.

This explains some of it IMO. For schools that don't have an annual OOC opponent, I could understand the appeal of a ninth conference game. Scheduling 4 compelling OOC matchups isn't going to be an easy feat going forward and a ninth game would probably help the ADs at those schools out.

However, I don't know that the "it makes scheduling easier" argument explains everything. Miami's AD is in favor of a 9 game schedule, but I really can't see his school having problems with lining up OOC opponents ( Miami is a name program located in a recruiting hotbed). GT is in favor of a 9 game despite having an annual series with UGA. Give their location and annual rivalry with UGA, I can't see how the jackets would have a hard time putting together a decent OOC schedule. Both of those saying yes are a big shock to me at least.
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(04-29-2014 10:38 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 10:27 AM)Dasville Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 10:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:46 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:43 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 games, no divisions, done

More like Tom Jurich...happy either way just glad to be in the ACC...but no Divisions 8 Games make more sense...with Divisions than go to 9 games...

Maybe Tom needs to speak up.
8 games with current divisions - play VT and Miami at home once every 10 years.
keep divisions but go 9 games - it still takes 5 years
scrap divisions and stay at 8 - it only takes 4 years
scrap divisions and go to 9 - it STILL takes 4 years!

ACC schedule vote in May. We become member of ACC in July. We should not voice an opinion on anything pending and/or being debated by the ACC until we are members. Jurich said the right thing and it really is how the vast majority of UofL fans feel (right now)!

Would much rather be in the league for a few years and earn our way before speaking up on anything right now.....04-cheers

Louisville may not be able to VOTE in May, but trust me, if Tom Jurich voiced an opinion, the other ADs would listen!
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(04-29-2014 10:43 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Louisville may not be able to VOTE in May, but trust me, if Tom Jurich voiced an opinion, the other ADs would listen!

Jurich usually doesn't tip his hand in public when it comes to conference matters and you aren't likely to see him state his position publicly to a reporter prior to a meeting/vote. Even if he can't vote, I have no doubt that he'll voice an opinion behind closed doors to those who need to know (presidents and ADs at conference meetings).
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(04-29-2014 10:38 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 10:27 AM)Dasville Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 10:06 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:46 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:43 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  8 games, no divisions, done

More like Tom Jurich...happy either way just glad to be in the ACC...but no Divisions 8 Games make more sense...with Divisions than go to 9 games...

Maybe Tom needs to speak up.
8 games with current divisions - play VT and Miami at home once every 10 years.
keep divisions but go 9 games - it still takes 5 years
scrap divisions and stay at 8 - it only takes 2 years

ACC schedule vote in May. We become member of ACC in July. We should not voice an opinion on anything pending and/or being debated by the ACC until we are members. Jurich said the right thing and it really is how the vast majority of UofL fans feel (right now)!

Would much rather be in the league for a few years and earn our way before speaking up on anything right now.....04-cheers

You guys dont really believe that Jurich sat in a meeting with the other AD's and didnt voice his opinion or vote on this matter when they were trying to come up with a decision do you?
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(04-29-2014 10:09 AM)LUcanesfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:03 AM)Ragu Wrote:  No idea why Miami is going along with this unless they dont want to play any challenging games OOC or want to continue to rot in mediocrity.

Miami's AD said in the article that they want to play every team more often. Golden supposedly favors the 9 game schedule too. Personally, I don't see why they would want 9 ACC games considering that we have not even won the Coastal yet.

In regards to playing a tougher OOC schedule, I read a short time back that our administration wants Golden in a "more favorable" situation scheduling-wise by playing 1 marquee game per year, 1 cupcake, and 2 games where Miami will be favored to win. We seem to have done that this year with Nebraska being our marquee game, Fla A&M being our cupcake and Cincy and Ark State being our 2 'favorite-to-win' games.

Until we can become the Canes of old, this is where we are headed scheduling wise.

Which is exactly what you should be doing until it pays to do otherwise. That is smart scheduling right there, and the key to success over the last 25 years.
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