(04-29-2014 11:50 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 07:23 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Rice should be rooting for UH to make the jump to P5. It's their only chance to escape CUSA hell and rejoin SMU, Tulane and Tulsa.

Houston will not join P5. You guys had your chance in the SW Conference and blew it. You can get more politicians to write letters on your behalf to the Big 12 but Texas doesn't want you. Now if that politician had the clout of a certain Texas Governor in 1994.......(See Baylor to the Big 12)

From what I've heard we are higher up on the list of promotable G5 schools than many bulletin board experts might think. As in much higher up. That said, I don't think anyone is going anywhere anytime soon.

Rice would be a perfect fit with top academics large endowment great facilities etc. Two problems. We already have Houston in this market. Also it is a very small school. But Rice eventually needs to be in the AAC. It adds prestige. With respect to a few posters knocking Tulane on this thread, Tulane is presently the highest ranked academic national university in the AAC, ranked number 52 in the U.S. News and World Report poll. It is in a major market and destination city,New Orleans, that hosts the Super Bowl, Final Four etc very often. Tulane's reputation is known throughout Latin America and Europe. It just built a 73m football stadium on campus with cash contributions from alumni and friends of Tulane,not debt/loans. Tulane is also the only member of the AAC that is a member of the prestigious college research group, the Association of American Universities comprising the top 60 academic/research universities in the nation and two in Canada.

Rice is a good fit but will never be added as Rice is in Houston, TX and The American already has Houston. They would be the highest ranked academic school in The American if they were added at #18.

The Big 12 already has 4 Texas schools (Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian, and Baylor), there is no way Houston is invited to the Big 12.

Central Florida, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, South Florida, Southern Methodist, Tulane, and Tulsa are all former Conference USA members. Only Connecticut (Big East), Temple (Atlantic 10) and future football only member Navy (Patriot League) have never been in C-USA.

If The American expands UMass should be the first school added.

(04-29-2014 12:16 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 12:07 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 11:56 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  Wow you beat us in triple OT with tons of breaks after 5 straight losses and a 3-10 overall record. Not impressed, hope Tulane does fantastic, however I don't get the value of markets unless people in your market actually care about the product.

What breaks? The one where we stuffed your run all game? When you can't run the ball, lateral passing = field goals, not TDs. The break where our starting QB didn't play?
There is a reason ECU couldn't get into this league for so long...even after we got in.

3 missed FGs on our part and a 14 point swing in regulation with 100 yard Int return. Congrats, you made a play, certainly not one you can rely on.

A Tulane fan talking football trash?
To quote Ron Simmons..."DAMN!"

(04-29-2014 11:44 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 09:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Future additions should be large public institutions. Those help land bowls. Small private schools are not as popular with the bowls and we already have several. I think Texas State might be the Texas program to keep our eye on. I know UTSA is out to the early lead, but Texas State is located in a traditional college town and has large enrollment of over 35K. They have a beautiful campus with attractive athletic facilities. The unique thing about Texas State is that it is located less that 45 minutes from 2 major cities---Austin and San Antonio. That means they have easy access to a very large number of former alums and t-shirt fans. If they can enjoy a little FBS grid iron success, they could develop into a very interesting candidate very quickly with connections to two major metro media markets.

I tend to agree with you about Texas St. I too believe that have a tremendous upside. I don't agree with you that their proximity to Austin and San Antonio are upsides though. Those are Longhorn towns through and through. I do agree with you about the size of the school and that it's an awesome college town. The name is a great thing as well. You all know my opinion on the value of state schools with names like University of ___________(insert state) and _______(insert state) University etc. to attract recruits, get TV ratings and get the "t-shirt" fans.

As much as Texas State sounds better from a naming standpoint, no. UTSA is a better add. Sure, they're not a flagship school, but Texas State's record attendance is 33k vs Texas Tech. UTSA drew 40k for OK State last year, and 32k against UH. Last year, UTSA had more butts in seats for their least-attended game than Texas State had for their most-attended game. UTSA is located in a major market and has no competition from the NFL - as far as expansion goes, they're probably prime real estate.

We invested and they didn't

(04-28-2014 09:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  If take Rice football over Tulane

Why?

Rice beat Tulane in their final regular season game (at Rice, no less) only as a result of a phantom holding call that took Tulane's game winning TD off the board late in the 4th quarter. Holding on an HB option pass play? Give me a break.

(04-29-2014 08:41 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  I would have taken Rice over Tulane, but prefer neither.

You'll see on 10/11 how a small, private, highly rated academic institution can beat up on a much larger state school. Then you can return the favor with both men's and women's basketball.

As I have said previously Rice should be in the AAC. It is a top 20 prestigious academic university with a beautiful campus ,mega endowment for its size and exceptional athletic facilities. The only thing that keeps it out to date is that it is in the same market as The University of Houston and also the small student size of the university. It desperately wants out of CUSA to join its sister former CUSA private top academic schools Tulane,SMU and Tulsa in the AAC.

(07-12-2014 09:37 PM)Savacool Wrote:  As I have said previously Rice should be in the AAC. It is a top 20 prestigious academic university with a beautiful campus ,mega endowment for its size and exceptional athletic facilities. The only thing that keeps it out to date is that it is in the same market as The University of Houston and also the small student size of the university. It desperately wants out of CUSA to join its sister former CUSA private top academic schools Tulane,SMU and Tulsa in the AAC.

I like Rice just as much as the next Tulane fan but they should not be in our league. You said the very reason: Same market as Univ. of Houston. Southern Miss. should be in the AAC before Rice.

(04-29-2014 12:19 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  This is a former SEC school......

I wouldn't be advertising that fact, someone might ask why you're no longer SEC.

(07-14-2014 08:00 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 12:19 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  This is a former SEC school......

I wouldn't be advertising that fact, someone might ask why you're no longer SEC.

Do you know why we're not in the SEC? We were, after all, a charter member, and hold more football championships than 4 or 5 current members COMBINED.

I'll clue you in to something. Tulane CHOSE to exit the SEC. It was entirely a decision the University made, there was no other reason.

(07-15-2014 03:28 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:00 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 12:19 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  This is a former SEC school......

I wouldn't be advertising that fact, someone might ask why you're no longer SEC.

Do you know why we're not in the SEC? We were, after all, a charter member, and hold more football championships than 4 or 5 current members COMBINED.

I'll clue you in to something. Tulane CHOSE to exit the SEC. It was entirely a decision the University made, there was no other reason.

Yes, I know you CHOSE to leave the SEC. Again, I'd not advertise that fact.

(07-07-2014 12:34 AM)Boyee Wrote:  If The American expands UMass should be the first school added.

PLEASE! UMass will have a more difficult time recruiting than UConn. A football culture does not exist in New England. There are High Schools in Louisiana that draw a higher attendance than URI, Brown & Bryant combined. This area is a black hole for football talent because nobody cares!

(07-15-2014 06:58 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 03:28 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:00 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 12:19 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  This is a former SEC school......

I wouldn't be advertising that fact, someone might ask why you're no longer SEC.

Do you know why we're not in the SEC? We were, after all, a charter member, and hold more football championships than 4 or 5 current members COMBINED.

I'll clue you in to something. Tulane CHOSE to exit the SEC. It was entirely a decision the University made, there was no other reason.

Yes, I know you CHOSE to leave the SEC. Again, I'd not advertise that fact.

The f r u talking about. Oh and enjoy the sunbelt, what a hot mess. Also get Huds autograph before he leaves.

(04-29-2014 09:32 AM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Besides doubling up on market, they fit the mold for the AAC:

-urban school
-great academic reputation
-large endowment
-CUSA football champions
-great stadium
-historic baseball power

Not advocating for expansion. Just think they're pretty cool.

- You didn't actually say "great stadium," did you? That place is an old dilapidated dump best left to a bygone era. And yes, I've been there and seen it for myself.

- What does "endowment" have to do with athletic prowess?

- I love college baseball, but it is pretty much a non-factor when it comes to conference membership consideration.

I'm honestly not trying to be disrespectful here, but one of the things that excited me about joining the Big East was so that we wouldn't have to play schools like Rice and Tulane anymore. As the Cincy fan said, I'd love to have a diploma hanging on my wall from either of these two fine institutions (next to my UCF diploma, of course), but I don't see any benefit associating with them athletically. And believe me, I would like nothing more than to have Tulane prove me wrong.

Diplomas framed and lined up on your wall:
Rice, Tulane, Central Florida. That's like listing your last 3 jobs on your resume like this: Merck, Intel, McDonald's. Which of the 3 just makes the other 2 not count because it's just so bad in comparison?

(07-15-2014 03:28 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:00 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 12:19 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  This is a former SEC school......

I wouldn't be advertising that fact, someone might ask why you're no longer SEC.

Do you know why we're not in the SEC? We were, after all, a charter member, and hold more football championships than 4 or 5 current members COMBINED.

I'll clue you in to something. Tulane CHOSE to exit the SEC. It was entirely a decision the University made, there was no other reason.

At about the same time, Idaho CHOSE to exit the PAC. It was entirely a decision the University made, there was no other reason. What's your point?