(04-23-2014 03:20 PM)UConnFB Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:17 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:05 PM)UConnFB Wrote:  This thread is useless. Plenty of bad ACC programs have been doing great, despite mediocre performance. They are all so much better off it's not even funny. Schools like Wake Forest and BC would be DOA if they had to play in AAC. But in the ACC they will get the cash to endure.

A mediocre year in the ACC gets you to the Compass Bowl, a mediocre year in the AAC gets you a bowl game in Haiti or something.

HAHA!!!! Yes, it is just a matter of time until Mike Aresco puffs out his chest and proudly announces the addition of the University of Port au Prince to the AAC.

FYP

Their football team couldn't be any worse than UMass!

They'd still probably beat uconn in football

(04-23-2014 03:24 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  They'd still probably beat uconn in football

Three tough seasons and everyone is a comedian when it comes to UConn football.

Fail. This ain't CUSA anymore. The beauty of the old Big East was that the difference between the best team and worst team wasn't all that dramatic. Any given Saturday, a team could be upset. That is why they play the game. Mock UConn at your own risk as they could pull an upset in any game this season as they won't be a half bad team.

(04-23-2014 03:28 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:24 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  They'd still probably beat uconn in football

Three tough seasons and everyone is a comedian when it comes to UConn football.

Fail. This ain't CUSA anymore. The beauty of the old Big East was that the difference between the best team and worst team wasn't all that dramatic. Any given Saturday, a team could be upset. That is why they play the game. Mock UConn at your own risk as they could pull an upset in any game this season as they won't be a half bad team.

I think you meant Any given Wednesday right? Don't remember ESPN showcasing Big East football games on Saturdays.....

(04-23-2014 03:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:28 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:24 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  They'd still probably beat uconn in football

Three tough seasons and everyone is a comedian when it comes to UConn football.

Fail. This ain't CUSA anymore. The beauty of the old Big East was that the difference between the best team and worst team wasn't all that dramatic. Any given Saturday, a team could be upset. That is why they play the game. Mock UConn at your own risk as they could pull an upset in any game this season as they won't be a half bad team.

I think you meant Any given Wednesday right? Don't remember ESPN showcasing Big East football games on Saturdays.....

Haha. That is correct. The UConn-ECU showdown is on a Thursday. It is unfortunate as that thwarted my plan to head to Greenville for it.

(04-23-2014 03:24 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  They'd still probably beat uconn in football

Yes, our football team will never improve. You guys are hilarious.

(04-23-2014 03:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:28 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:24 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  They'd still probably beat uconn in football

Three tough seasons and everyone is a comedian when it comes to UConn football.

Fail. This ain't CUSA anymore. The beauty of the old Big East was that the difference between the best team and worst team wasn't all that dramatic. Any given Saturday, a team could be upset. That is why they play the game. Mock UConn at your own risk as they could pull an upset in any game this season as they won't be a half bad team.

I think you meant Any given Wednesday right? Don't remember ESPN showcasing Big East football games on Saturdays.....

There will be a new AAC reality show next season on ESPN 3. It will be called Wednesday Night Lights.

TCU suck when they were in the SWC and they will suck again in the Big 12.

(04-23-2014 04:20 PM)pearland1 Wrote:  TCU suck when they were in the SWC and they will suck again in the Big 12.

Yes they will. And their coach will leave, and their other sports will still suck. They should have stuck with the BE. Their suckiness would have still sucked..... but at least they could have rebounded. Now, they can never come back.

There is a lot of jealousy and hating in this whole thread!

(04-23-2014 09:49 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   There is a lot of jealousy and hating in this whole thread!

(04-23-2014 09:08 AM)HPbull24 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:06 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  ACC:
BC - Failure
Miami - Failure
VT - wash
Syracuse - TBD
Pitt - TBD
L'Ville - TBD

Pac-12:
Utah - Failure
Colorado - wash

Big-10:
Nebraska - wash

Big 12:
WVU - Failure
TCU - Failure (No bowl + 0-19 in basketball, really?)

SEC:
Texas A&M - Success
Missouri - Success

In my opinion, the SEC is the only conference that has gotten every move right in realignment so far, and that's probably why they continue to be regarded as the #1 conference in the land.

Good evaluation RED

I believe Rutgers & Maryland are going to have a tough time in the Big 10, especially in view of the division they are going to be playing in.

(04-23-2014 02:37 PM)indydoug Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:58 PM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  This Thread =

Just curious. With that schedule and a new coaching staff, what do you see UL doing next year? 8-4 (5-3) sound about right give or take 1 win?

I think so, I'd go with a Mean of 9-3. One thing that is overlooked is that attrition begins in the trenches and teams coming from lower levels don't have the size and depth there generally. I mean we've seen this in match-ups, recently, that I can remember between UofL, and even Cincy, vs. UNC or Nc St.. Now, that doesn't mean that you can't win games against bigger lines, but over the course of a season it is going to take a toll.

I would be very pleased w/ 9-3 in the first season, heck it could be a bit lower than that and I won't freak out. But Petrino is a near-elite level coach and I fully expect to be performing better than the mediocrity that the OP posits, even if it takes a year or 2.

Now, if CPB leaves...

With expansion came some teams being called up to leagues where they are not going to compete too well but are all too happy to collect the paycheck. I will say VT has been very successful in the ACC when it comes to winning the ACC. Sometimes you catch magic in a bottle with a QB and Vick was their QB for them. They have not competed for a National Championship since Vick and their record vs Top 10 teams since Vick is also God Awful. The ACC in general has been the worst P5 Conference in BCS Bowl games and the Big East/AAC has more BCS Bowl wins than the ACC.

I will say that I think Louisville will compete in the ACC from day one and will be in the running for ACC Football Championships most years. It is probably the perfect fit for Louisville out of the P5 options. WVU in a perfect world would be in the ACC or SEC. Having spent the last 15yrs with WVU fans in my family I can say not many are thrilled with the Big12 other than the money and a couple marquee games in Morgantown against powers like Texas, Oklahoma, OSU etc.. They would have much preferred to stay in the Big East if the old Big East had stayed together. They miss the Big East Tournament in Madison Square Garden but then again who wouldn't miss the best college Basketball Tournament ever put together ?

End of the day expansion made sense when negotiating new TV contracts but in a lot of cases the teams moved around did not make sense for them or their new Conference. The ACC picked up Miami, FSU and VT hoping to become a powerful Football Conference and that never worked out for them. FSU is finally back, Clemson is back to making noise and Miami seems to be also finally turning it around. ACC was completely jealous of the Big East being hands down the best Basketball Conference around so they systematically picked Big East Basketball apart. ACC is run by Basketball guys so if you give them a choice between dominating Basketball or Football, they are going to pick Basketball even though Football drives the bus. Louisville is a win-win for the ACC because they bring both Football and Basketball programs that will improve the overall quality of the ACC and I think Louisville will not only go to the ACC to die but will thrive in the ACC.

(04-24-2014 02:15 AM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 02:37 PM)indydoug Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 12:58 PM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  This Thread =

Just curious. With that schedule and a new coaching staff, what do you see UL doing next year? 8-4 (5-3) sound about right give or take 1 win?

I think so, I'd go with a Mean of 9-3. One thing that is overlooked is that attrition begins in the trenches and teams coming from lower levels don't have the size and depth there generally. I mean we've seen this in match-ups, recently, that I can remember between UofL, and even Cincy, vs. UNC or Nc St.. Now, that doesn't mean that you can't win games against bigger lines, but over the course of a season it is going to take a toll.

I would be very pleased w/ 9-3 in the first season, heck it could be a bit lower than that and I won't freak out. But Petrino is a near-elite level coach and I fully expect to be performing better than the mediocrity that the OP posits, even if it takes a year or 2.

Now, if CPB leaves...

This is Phil Steele take on Louisville first year in the ACC in his Projected Preseason Top 25 for 2014:

1. Florida State Seminoles
16. Clemson Tigers
23. North Carolina Tar Heels

25. Louisville Cardinals

Back in January, I wrote that the Cardinals would be a team that could be in store for a sizeable fall in 2014. But that was prior to the hire of Bobby Petrino, which changes the dynamics considerably. Despite the loss of star quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, Petrino inherits a team that returns its top running back, wide receiver DeVante Parker and a veteran offensive line. The defense also has eight returning starters from a unit that was No. 1 in the NCAA in yards per game allowed (251). While they make the step up in competition in joining the ACC, they avoid Georgia Tech, North Carolina, and Virginia Tech from the Coastal division and they could be favored in as many as nine games this year (with the exception of Clemson, Florida State and possibly Notre Dame).

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-footb...eason-poll

FYI he has UCF #24

24. UCF Knights

The Knights are coming off their best season in school history, finishing 12-1 and No. 10 overall after their impressive 52-42 win over Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Even with the loss of quarterback Blake Bortles and running back Storm Johnson, the Knights enter 2014 as the clear favorites in the American Athletic Conference. They return 15 starters, including nine from a defense that held the high-powered Bears in check for much of the bowl game. The schedule does see them playing Penn State and Missouri in nonconference action but they did beat the Nittany Lions last year on the road and the Knights also nearly beat a fellow SEC member South Carolina as well last year. In conference play they avoid Cincinnati and of course Louisville is off to the ACC.

(04-23-2014 11:12 PM)RUfan03 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:08 AM)HPbull24 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:06 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  

I believe Rutgers & Maryland are going to have a tough time in the Big 10, especially in view of the division they are going to be playing in.

If Rutgers is terrible is it a wash or a success?

(04-23-2014 08:31 AM)HPbull24 Wrote:  To me it is only a handfull of teams in those stacked conferences that will have a chance anyway so maybe those teams would be better off in a conference like the old Big East or WAC.

Better off?

Schools that would prefer to go 10-2 in the AAC rather than 3-9 in the ACC?

Zero, as everyone places a much higher value on the money and status of being P5.

ACC
1) Virginia
2) Virginia Tech
3) Duke
4) Wake Forest
5) North Carolina
6) North Carolina State
7) Clemson
8) George Tech
9) Florida State
Big East
1) Boston College
2) Syracuse
3) Pittsburgh
4) Notre Dame
5) Louisville
6) Miami
7)One of Cincinnati, UConn or West Virginia at a later date.

(04-24-2014 07:46 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  ACC
1) Virginia
2) Virginia Tech
3) Duke
4) Wake Forest
5) North Carolina
6) North Carolina State
7) Clemson
8) George Tech
9) Florida State
Big East
1) Boston College
2) Syracuse
3) Pittsburgh
4) Notre Dame
5) Louisville
6) Miami
7)One of Cincinnati, UConn or West Virginia at a later date.

You think ND will finally join a conference? And the ACC at that?

(04-23-2014 05:04 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 04:20 PM)pearland1 Wrote:  TCU suck when they were in the SWC and they will suck again in the Big 12.

Yes they will. And their coach will leave, and their other sports will still suck. They should have stuck with the BE. Their suckiness would have still sucked..... but at least they could have rebounded. Now, they can never come back.

Accept now they soak up their tears with $100 bills.