I was just watching the Bulls playoff game and afterward, the sports commentator said something about Patrick Beverley and I had a flashback. I looked him up and see he is currently in the NBA. Didn't he commit to play for the Rockets back when Kashif Payne and Justin Ingram were there? What ever happened to him coming to Toledo? I see he played for Arkansas so was he committed but decommitted when Arkansas offered? Or was he just someone Toledo was recruiting and I was mistaken that he never actually verbally committed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Beverley

(04-23-2014 12:23 AM)Campbell4President Wrote:  I was just watching the Bulls playoff game and afterward, the sports commentator said something about Patrick Beverley and I had a flashback. I looked him up and see he is currently in the NBA. Didn't he commit to play for the Rockets back when Kashif Payne and Justin Ingram were there? What ever happened to him coming to Toledo? I see he played for Arkansas so was he committed but decommitted when Arkansas offered? Or was he just someone Toledo was recruiting and I was mistaken that he never actually verbally committed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Beverley

Thought his HS Coach talked him out of the Toledo commitment. Has a bad boy rep, Kind of glad the commitment fell through considering what was going on at that time.

Here's a great story about Beverly from Sports Illustrated. I love the way he plays defense. Given his background as a kid in Chicago it is amazing that he has made it to this level in the NBA.

http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG.../index.htm

One of Beverley's childhood playmates was Shatoya Currie, who at nine years old became nationally known as Girl X after she was kidnapped, raped and poisoned at the notorious Cabrini-Green Homes. "People don't believe this," Beverley says, "but until sixth grade I'd never seen a white person who wasn't with the police or on TV." He was raised by a devoted single mother, Lisa Beverley, who gave manicures at Bottom Nail Salon. He called her boyfriend Dad. "He raised me too, but he was one of the well-known, big-time gang members in Chicago," says Beverley, who once saw Dad's gun fall out of his pants while playing hoops. "When I was in junior high, he got shot 15 times and died."

In Stan's 2nd or 3rd last year, he was recruiting two shooting guards. The 1st was Beverly from Tino V's high school in Chicago and I don't know who the other was, but was from somewhere south of Toledo (I do know that). Beverly was the better of the two. Around October of their (both SG's) senior years before early signing period, Beverly committed. With that commitment, Stan stopped recruiting the other SG. Stan also said the other SG wanted to come to Toledo, but only one Scholarship was available. So when early signing period came around, Beverly's AAU coach talked him into not signing with UT, and to wait for a better offer. Even though Beverly's mother, father, and high school coach wanted him to sign with Toledo, because they had seen how Stan had taken care of Tino. In the mean time, the other SG signed with another school during the early period and was no longer available. Now Toledo is in a waiting game as to what will happen with Beverly. So when the Spring signing period came in April, Beverly signed with Arkansas instead of Toledo. He led the Hogs in scoring and was, I believe, Freshman of the year in the SEC.

The loss of Beverly really hurt because he would have joined Stan's team the year after they won the MAC regular season championship. (Tino V., Jon Amos, Keonte Howell, and those guys)

I could be a little off on the dates, but assistant coach Bob Simon was the one who came in and cleaned up the mess that Tony Jones caused with his recruiting (Villegas, Triplett etc.). Stan, I though was a pretty good floor coach, but couldn't recruit. When Simon came, he recruited players like Beverly, Tino, Jonathan Amos, Tyrone Kent, Keonta Howell and Allen Pinson (who should have ended up in the NBA as a small forward). He started the Chicago connection. Simon essentially recruited the class that won the MAC regular season title in 2006-07. Stan got lucky with one player on that team, Justin Ingram, because he was good friends with Ingram's dad. When Simon left for Fairfield College in 2006, he's now at Providence, UT's recruiting headed south pretty fast.

i don't know if simon was totally responsible but, yeah, he was an important asst and recruiter. beverly was a UT commit for a while and the hs coach story is the same one i heard. i think it was stan heath (former kent st coach) who poached him to arkansas where he was a star. that was kind of a series of bad breaks for stan (losing a signature recruit, haris' death, the gambling scandal, the crosby non-admittance) that led to his horrible last yr and the firing. of course, he and obrien weren't tight and the newer AD wanted his own guy, missed big on his first hire, then got it right with coach k.

(04-23-2014 03:17 PM)pono Wrote:  i don't know if simon was totally responsible but, yeah, he was an important asst and recruiter. beverly was a UT commit for a while and the hs coach story is the same one i heard. i think it was stan heath (former kent st coach) who poached him to arkansas where he was a star. that was kind of a series of bad breaks for stan (losing a signature recruit, haris' death, the gambling scandal, the crosby non-admittance) that led to his horrible last yr and the firing. of course, he and obrien weren't tight and the newer AD wanted his own guy, missed big on his first hire, then got it right with coach k.

Stan guided him to his Buddy at Arkansas

(04-23-2014 08:31 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:17 PM)pono Wrote:  i don't know if simon was totally responsible but, yeah, he was an important asst and recruiter. beverly was a UT commit for a while and the hs coach story is the same one i heard. i think it was stan heath (former kent st coach) who poached him to arkansas where he was a star. that was kind of a series of bad breaks for stan (losing a signature recruit, haris' death, the gambling scandal, the crosby non-admittance) that led to his horrible last yr and the firing. of course, he and obrien weren't tight and the newer AD wanted his own guy, missed big on his first hire, then got it right with coach k.

Stan guided him to his Buddy at Arkansas

Why would you say that???

Stan was blindsided and really wanted Beverly to come to Toledo very badly. As we see now Beverly is a NBA caliber player....

(04-24-2014 08:56 AM)Terry Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:31 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:17 PM)pono Wrote:  i don't know if simon was totally responsible but, yeah, he was an important asst and recruiter. beverly was a UT commit for a while and the hs coach story is the same one i heard. i think it was stan heath (former kent st coach) who poached him to arkansas where he was a star. that was kind of a series of bad breaks for stan (losing a signature recruit, haris' death, the gambling scandal, the crosby non-admittance) that led to his horrible last yr and the firing. of course, he and obrien weren't tight and the newer AD wanted his own guy, missed big on his first hire, then got it right with coach k.

Stan guided him to his Buddy at Arkansas

Why would you say that???

Stan was blindsided and really wanted Beverly to come to Toledo very badly. As we see now Beverly is a NBA caliber player....

Correct !!!
Stan was blindsided in more ways than one. Sure there were some undesirables that filtered into the program during his regime, but there were other forces at work to see that Stan would get ousted. If Beverly and Paul Crosby became Rockets, that team, man for man could've been one of the best we had seen in a long time. I would not have been surprised to see back to back titles. Stan is a good guy, but we are now in very capable hands with Todd K.

Does anyone have a list of Past Toledo basketball coaches and the years. Im just curious to look at it and cant find anything

Crosby

I have a list of coaches if you are looking for something specifically.

(04-24-2014 09:26 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 08:56 AM)Terry Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:31 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:17 PM)pono Wrote:  i don't know if simon was totally responsible but, yeah, he was an important asst and recruiter. beverly was a UT commit for a while and the hs coach story is the same one i heard. i think it was stan heath (former kent st coach) who poached him to arkansas where he was a star. that was kind of a series of bad breaks for stan (losing a signature recruit, haris' death, the gambling scandal, the crosby non-admittance) that led to his horrible last yr and the firing. of course, he and obrien weren't tight and the newer AD wanted his own guy, missed big on his first hire, then got it right with coach k.

Stan guided him to his Buddy at Arkansas

Why would you say that???

Stan was blindsided and really wanted Beverly to come to Toledo very badly. As we see now Beverly is a NBA caliber player....

Correct !!!
Stan was blindsided in more ways than one. Sure there were some undesirables that filtered into the program during his regime, but there were other forces at work to see that Stan would get ousted. If Beverly and Paul Crosby became Rockets, that team, man for man could've been one of the best we had seen in a long time. I would not have been surprised to see back to back titles. Stan is a good guy, but we are now in very capable hands with Todd K.

i agree.

the Crosby recruiting was a real blow to the staff. he was a kid they worked at getting for a while and were thrilled to sign him. he had a learning disorder and the ncaa weighed his academic credentials differently. he ended up getting cleared to play but then the schoo didn't admit him. that was in a stretch where stan kept buiding a good core of guards and small forwards but couldn't get an anchor down low. they thought they turned the corner w Crosby. the situation was compounded by 2 or 3 other recruits that year getting caught up in ncaa clearinghouse issues. both went to UT and passed their classes but weren't cleared to compete. stan had to play ty kent at pg and had no big man. the team tanked and admin wanted a new face for the new arena.

(04-25-2014 03:07 AM)pono Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 09:26 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(04-24-2014 08:56 AM)Terry Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:31 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 03:17 PM)pono Wrote:  i don't know if simon was totally responsible but, yeah, he was an important asst and recruiter. beverly was a UT commit for a while and the hs coach story is the same one i heard. i think it was stan heath (former kent st coach) who poached him to arkansas where he was a star. that was kind of a series of bad breaks for stan (losing a signature recruit, haris' death, the gambling scandal, the crosby non-admittance) that led to his horrible last yr and the firing. of course, he and obrien weren't tight and the newer AD wanted his own guy, missed big on his first hire, then got it right with coach k.

Stan guided him to his Buddy at Arkansas

Why would you say that???

Stan was blindsided and really wanted Beverly to come to Toledo very badly. As we see now Beverly is a NBA caliber player....

Correct !!!
Stan was blindsided in more ways than one. Sure there were some undesirables that filtered into the program during his regime, but there were other forces at work to see that Stan would get ousted. If Beverly and Paul Crosby became Rockets, that team, man for man could've been one of the best we had seen in a long time. I would not have been surprised to see back to back titles. Stan is a good guy, but we are now in very capable hands with Todd K.

i agree.

the Crosby recruiting was a real blow to the staff. he was a kid they worked at getting for a while and were thrilled to sign him. he had a learning disorder and the ncaa weighed his academic credentials differently. he ended up getting cleared to play but then the schoo didn't admit him. that was in a stretch where stan kept buiding a good core of guards and small forwards but couldn't get an anchor down low. they thought they turned the corner w Crosby. the situation was compounded by 2 or 3 other recruits that year getting caught up in ncaa clearinghouse issues. both went to UT and passed their classes but weren't cleared to compete. stan had to play ty kent at pg and had no big man. the team tanked and admin wanted a new face for the new arena.

Sounds right to me.

Thought this was going to be about a new offensive tackle we picked up.

Crosby would be a great offensive tackle.