(04-27-2014 06:13 PM)westmc9th Wrote:  Just announced SEC is staying at 8, so I would say there is a 90% chance we will be too. Still hoping for division deregulation

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...and-beyond

(04-27-2014 08:53 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 06:13 PM)westmc9th Wrote:  Just announced SEC is staying at 8, so I would say there is a 90% chance we will be too. Still hoping for division deregulation

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...and-beyond

Well, the ACC will be in good company if its stays at 8. The ACC should use this opportunity to lock in existing OOC rivalries with the SEC long term and to schedule additional SEC opponents OOC (Mississippi State and Vanderbilt have nobody scheduled, and will need to add a bunch of games to comply with new OOC scheduling requirement).

The ACC should certainly defer any consideration of expanding the conference schedule until the NCAA has acted on its proposal to allow a CCG without divisions.

CBS' Dennis Dodds thinks the SEC simply figured out that it's better to beat a non-conference opponent than to hang another loss on someone in the SEC... LINK.

(04-28-2014 10:41 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  CBS' Dennis Dodds thinks the SEC simply figured out that it's better to beat a non-conference opponent than to hang another loss on someone in the SEC... LINK.

Dodd doesn't seem to understand what the SEC just did. All they SEC did was to tell everyone they had to play ONE B-5 game. Dodd is suddenly talking about Florida vs. Michigan as if UF is going to add Michigan in addition to FSU.

(04-28-2014 11:26 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 10:41 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  CBS' Dennis Dodds thinks the SEC simply figured out that it's better to beat a non-conference opponent than to hang another loss on someone in the SEC... LINK.

Dodd doesn't seem to understand what the SEC just did. All they SEC did was to tell everyone they had to play ONE B-5 game. Dodd is suddenly talking about Florida vs. Michigan as if UF is going to add Michigan in addition to FSU.

Agreed - his jump from not giving SEC teams an extra loss to Florida vs. Michigan is a major reach, but the fundamental concept is correct, IMO.

(04-27-2014 08:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 07:58 PM)Maize Wrote:  For Louisville:

Rivals: Boston College, Pitt & Syracuse

Two Year Cycle for both...play the entire league at least twice in a 4 year period.
Group A: Miami, Virginia Tech, NC State, Wake Forest & Georgia Tech
Group B: Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, Duke & Virginia

That would certainly be a nice schedule. Do you think Louisville would try to get another P5 opponent in addition to Kentucky (in years the Cards are NOT playing Notre Dame)?

With 2013 being the lone exception, Louisville has played at least two current (or former) P5 schools every year OOC since the mid 1990's when we joined a conference, and many more prior as an independent. Many years have seen three P5 teams OOC, and a couple of years saw 4 P5 teams OOC.

When the Big East expanded we lost one OOC game due to going from 7 to 8 conference games, and with uncertainties about it, since we could not get another "marquee" game that year, we opted to only have one OOC P5 game instead of getting a second "mid-level team, since we had an extra conference game and still had a home and home contract with FIU to play out (done to play in Florida in front of Florida recruits). But when the new Big East fell apart, it was almost too late to get a new game. Jurich tried to get a game with Alabama, who thought Virginia Tech was backing out of the Chik-Fil-A game, but since they didn't we couldn't make it happen. He also tried to get a game with Texas A&M when it looked like SMU was backing out, but they didn't so no go (plus A&M's coach was for it, but their AD was not). He also offered to play Ohio St and Michigan at their place with no return game (something he never, ever does) because of the hole in the schedule, but apparently the phone calls were not returned.

So 2013 was a true anomaly in the schedule. So far the next few years, OOC is

2014 UK, ND
2015 UK, Auburn, Houston
2016 UK, Houston, Marshall
2017 UK, ND

It is possible in 2016 we have another weaker OOC, as we have a return date with Marshall that has been pushed back, and the Houston series was just signed as part of the AAC exit agreement. So we'll see what happens between now and then.

2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

(04-28-2014 02:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

Hokie, would you rather have a regular SEC team to play or Pitt/WVa?

I see that Penn State is coming back on Pitt's schedule. If that can be sustained then WVa could be used for you, or us, or UNC, or UVa.

There is not going to be an SEC/ACC full football challenge. TAMU has committed to playing that game with the P12 and Mizzou is committed to playing the B10 with Purdue and Illinois. Arkansas already has commitments with the B12 in Texas.

(04-28-2014 02:56 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

Hokie, would you rather have a regular SEC team to play or Pitt/WVa?

I see that Penn State is coming back on Pitt's schedule. If that can be sustained then WVa could be used for you, or us, or UNC, or UVa.

There is not going to be an SEC/ACC full football challenge. TAMU has committed to playing that game with the P12 and Mizzou is committed to playing the B10 with Purdue and Illinois. Arkansas already has commitments with the B12 in Texas.

For VT's P5 OOC*
1st choice: Tennessee
2nd choice: W Virginia
3rd choice: Maryland

*only if it HAS to be the same team every year though.

(04-28-2014 03:31 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:56 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

Hokie, would you rather have a regular SEC team to play or Pitt/WVa?

I see that Penn State is coming back on Pitt's schedule. If that can be sustained then WVa could be used for you, or us, or UNC, or UVa.

There is not going to be an SEC/ACC full football challenge. TAMU has committed to playing that game with the P12 and Mizzou is committed to playing the B10 with Purdue and Illinois. Arkansas already has commitments with the B12 in Texas.

For VT's P5 OOC*
1st choice: Tennessee
2nd choice: W Virginia
3rd choice: Maryland

*only if it HAS to be the same team every year though.

SU would be PSU, WVU, and UMD in that order.

(04-28-2014 03:46 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:31 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:56 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

Hokie, would you rather have a regular SEC team to play or Pitt/WVa?

I see that Penn State is coming back on Pitt's schedule. If that can be sustained then WVa could be used for you, or us, or UNC, or UVa.

There is not going to be an SEC/ACC full football challenge. TAMU has committed to playing that game with the P12 and Mizzou is committed to playing the B10 with Purdue and Illinois. Arkansas already has commitments with the B12 in Texas.

For VT's P5 OOC*
1st choice: Tennessee
2nd choice: W Virginia
3rd choice: Maryland

*only if it HAS to be the same team every year though.

SU would be PSU, WVU, and UMD in that order.

And we've got two of those on the schedule already. Could try to fit WVU in as well:

2014: Maryland, Notre Dame (at MetLife)
2015: LSU
2016: Notre Dame (at MetLife)
2017: at LSU
2018: ??? (possibly at Notre Dame; also, WVU doesn't have a P5 yet)
2019: at Maryland
2020: at Penn State
2021: Penn State

(04-28-2014 04:45 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:46 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:31 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:56 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 02:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

Hokie, would you rather have a regular SEC team to play or Pitt/WVa?

I see that Penn State is coming back on Pitt's schedule. If that can be sustained then WVa could be used for you, or us, or UNC, or UVa.

There is not going to be an SEC/ACC full football challenge. TAMU has committed to playing that game with the P12 and Mizzou is committed to playing the B10 with Purdue and Illinois. Arkansas already has commitments with the B12 in Texas.

For VT's P5 OOC*
1st choice: Tennessee
2nd choice: W Virginia
3rd choice: Maryland

*only if it HAS to be the same team every year though.

SU would be PSU, WVU, and UMD in that order.

And we've got two of those on the schedule already. Could try to fit WVU in as well:

2014: Maryland, Notre Dame (at MetLife)
2015: LSU
2016: Notre Dame (at MetLife)
2017: at LSU
2018: ??? (possibly at Notre Dame; also, WVU doesn't have a P5 yet)
2019: at Maryland
2020: at Penn State
2021: Penn State

wvu is afraid of us. VAndy ad says they might schedule a series with Syracuse going forward

Meanwhile in Raleigh

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...me-series/

Quote:North Carolina State and Troy have agreed to a future home-and-home series that will include two games over three seasons in 2015 and 2017. The schedule could mean a future game between NC State and LSU could be adjusted.

According to a press release from Troy, NC State will host the Trojans from the Sun Belt Conference on September 5, 2015, the season opener. NC State will make the return trip to Troy, Alabama on September 23, 2017.

I guess by 2015 there will not be as many 1st or 2nd year FBS teams for NC State to play.

(04-28-2014 02:52 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  2015 is impressive.

However, Houston and Marshall are "G5" so not really germane to the question of 2 P5s... just sayin'

I listed them because they are home and home, which cut into the issue of getting a P5 game. The Marshall game is a road game, that has been moved back twice, and the Houston series is home and home. Typically we don't cancel return trips (delay, but not cancel) so I doubt it will be moved again. it was only moved because the ND game created an issue where there were only five home games.

NC State is playing AT Troy? I wanted to make fun of Troy's 30,000-seat stadium but that's the same size as Duke and Wake.

Syracuse AD speaks on 8 or 9 game schedule.

Quote:Giansante indicated that the Orange would prefer a nine-game conference schedule if the ACC maintains a divisional alignment because it would allow for regularly rotating conference opponents. He said Syracuse would also be pleased with an eight-game format similar if the ACC does away with a divisional alignment.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/i...uniti.html

(04-30-2014 04:29 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  Syracuse AD speaks on 8 or 9 game schedule.

Quote:Giansante indicated that the Orange would prefer a nine-game conference schedule if the ACC maintains a divisional alignment because it would allow for regularly rotating conference opponents. He said Syracuse would also be pleased with an eight-game format similar if the ACC does away with a divisional alignment.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/i...uniti.html

Boom. That's what we've been waiting for.

Looks like this is going to happen boys.

Quote:Giansante said the ACC is currently looking at historical seasons to see how they would have played out using various selection criteria. It's the ACC's effort to figure out what schedule will have the best chance at landing a team in the playoffs.

"When an idea is drawn up, it's being modeled out by the conference using historical seasons," Giansante said. "Not just the ACC but the entire country is being modeled. It's very thoughtful, deliberate, high-level thinking."

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/i...uniti.html

It would be interesting to get a look at that data.

so, should they take a poll of AD's on divisions?

(04-30-2014 07:46 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  so, should they take a poll of AD's on divisions?

What's a division!