I think someone else raised this question recently on this board in the wake of a recent judgment on college athletics....putting it here in the interest of time. It raises some provocative questions regarding the future of college football in any event. From Sunday's Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i...story.html

http://ctmirror.org/uconns-napier-on-alt...nionizing/
shabazz napier on going to bed hungry

Quote:We do have hungry nights that we don't have enough money to get food and sometimes money is needed

im afraid his nose is growing at an alarming rate. Baloney may come out of his ears.

(04-07-2014 11:45 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  http://ctmirror.org/uconns-napier-on-alt...nionizing/
shabazz napier on going to bed hungry

Quote:We do have THIRSTY nights that we don't have enough money to get food and sometimes BEER is needed

im afraid his nose is growing at an alarming rate. Baloney may come out of his ears.

FIFY

(04-07-2014 12:24 PM)brizzock Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 11:45 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  http://ctmirror.org/uconns-napier-on-alt...nionizing/
shabazz napier on going to bed hungry

Quote:We do have THIRSTY nights that we don't have enough money to get food and sometimes BEER is needed

im afraid his nose is growing at an alarming rate. Baloney may come out of his ears.

FIFY

I went "hungry" some nights...at 10pm after three plates of nachos and a bowl full of pigs-in-a-blueberry blanket from D-Hall. Even on most of those nights if I didn't have money I'd eat half of JMU_71's pizza that he ordered at 10:30pm. If that failed I'd just go drink BDKJMU's beer or Mad Dog.

I wasn't on scholarship during my JMU years and I'm not very familiar with all the rights and privileges they permit, but I've always assumed that dining and residency services were provided to full scholarship athletes across the board. So when I hear about athletes going hungry or being unable to pay their rent I get confused, because I wonder why they would ever choose to pay for something out of pocket when there are options provided to them at no cost.

Do some schools (JMU included) not provide dining and residency services to full scholarship athletes in certain situations? Are there NCAA regulations dictating what services are required and optional?

(04-11-2014 11:41 AM)DooX Wrote:  I wasn't on scholarship during my JMU years and I'm not very familiar with all the rights and privileges they permit, but I've always assumed that dining and residency services were provided to full scholarship athletes across the board. So when I hear about athletes going hungry or being unable to pay their rent I get confused, because I wonder why they would ever choose to pay for something out of pocket when there are options provided to them at no cost.

Do some schools (JMU included) not provide dining and residency services to full scholarship athletes in certain situations? Are there NCAA regulations dictating what services are required and optional?

Check the JMU endowment thread for a short discussion. There is a link on there to the money breakdown from some source and then I laid out a more realistic picture.

Short answer: JMU does provide those services to scholarship athletes and Napier going to bed hungry is either stretching the truth or due to his flawed eating schedule (which granted could be complicated by practice/class time).

(04-07-2014 11:45 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  http://ctmirror.org/uconns-napier-on-alt...nionizing/
shabazz napier on going to bed hungry

Quote:We do have hungry nights that we don't have enough money to get food and sometimes money is needed

im afraid his nose is growing at an alarming rate. Baloney may come out of his ears.

Yeah, they do have the best meal plan. But I wouldn't be surprised if they missed dinner once in a while because of practice and mandatory study hall. JMUs practices aer 3-6, then you have training room (for injury purposes or whatever) and then mandatory study hall typically 7-9. So, depending on a coaches whims I can see not making it to dinner. But doubt he meant it like he's starving on a daily basis.

That said, the student athletes are asking for a stipend in the $2-$4k range on an annual basis to supplement their scholarships.

I don't think it's an unreasonable request. Athletics take up a lot of time, would be pretty impossible to get a job even in the off-season. Other non-athlete scholarship kids can get stipends for assisting professors or a work-study.

Personally, I think the NCAA has a number of unreasonable rules that just don't make sense. (see peanut butter and cream cheese rules)

Athletes make a lot of money for their schools, I don't think this, along with the healthcare/concussion/etc, they are asking for are at all unreasonable.

Just my .02 though.

(04-11-2014 11:41 AM)DooX Wrote:  I wasn't on scholarship during my JMU years and I'm not very familiar with all the rights and privileges they permit, but I've always assumed that dining and residency services were provided to full scholarship athletes across the board. So when I hear about athletes going hungry or being unable to pay their rent I get confused, because I wonder why they would ever choose to pay for something out of pocket when there are options provided to them at no cost.

Do some schools (JMU included) not provide dining and residency services to full scholarship athletes in certain situations? Are there NCAA regulations dictating what services are required and optional?

Dhall closes at 8 pm and PC Dukes Closes at 10. If you go to Dhall at 6 pm you cant use your punch at PC Dukes. with the type of activities you are doing during the day you can possibly be hungry at 9 pm after study hall. A lot of my friends would order pizza and etc to fill their hunger needs at night. Some night I didn't have the dining dollars or cash to do so. Which means I went to sleep hungry.

Maybe the solution is an on-campus Taco Bell covered by the dining plan.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...on-kessler

The article and the sub articles are very informative. Getting the short attention crowd to read anything beyond 2 paragraphs is a bit more problematic.