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RE: What's Your Favorite CFB Team or Teams Worth?
I love how the G5 pretends that ESPN and the others just dump money on the P5 for no reason whatsoever and that they could do the same for the G5 but are just choosing not to because they are mean.

I get you are super jealous of schools like Wake and Vandy that you think are non-contributors and are just getting in your way to sit at the money trough too.

The plain fact is, the B1g would rather associate with a school like NWU than they would a school like Miami OH or Cincy.

And while somebody is inevitably going to finish last in FB every year, you would be hard pressed to name more 1 or 2 P5 teams that contribute NOTHING to the conference. By that I mean a member school that has no academic rep (top ranks and or AAU), few to no national titles in any sports, not competitive (winning conference championships) in their conference and brings either a tiny or non-unique market (market already covered by another bigger, more popular team).

Like I said, you MIGHT be able to name 1-2 schools in the whole P5 who don't meet any of those criteria.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2014 09:31 AM by 10thMountain.)
04-21-2014 08:46 AM
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RE: What's Your Favorite CFB Team or Teams Worth?
I don't see Tulane on this list.

I'm guessing that we are somewhere between $25-30 million with the new investments in the program.
04-21-2014 08:52 AM
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(04-21-2014 08:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 07:57 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  It's not a coincidence that all of the P5 teams are on the top and all of the G5 teams are on the bottom. It's not a chicken/egg scenario, being in the P5 is a golden ticket. Even Wake Forrest, one of the worst football programs in the history of FBS, rates higher than ever G5 team with the exception of a few, mostly the ones recently demoted Big East leftovers. WF had the dumb luck of joining the ACC in 1953 and has benefited ever since.

So P5 fans, before you go patting yourselves on the back and talking about how this divide justifies your superiority over the G5, remember that this is a rigged system, these numbers aren't based on the actual value of the performance of the individual program but on the value of having the dumb luck of being in a conference that gets to print money.

Good points.

Interestingly, my alma mater (Cincinnati) fell 14 spots from the 2011 list. What changed? We were exiled to the G5. Most of the bottom feeder P5 schools leaped over us.

That is part of it, but as was mentioned above, a lot of that probably has to do the debt for the new stadium renovation.
04-21-2014 09:07 AM
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(04-21-2014 08:52 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I don't see Tulane on this list.

I'm guessing that we are somewhere between $25-30 million with the new investments in the program.

Liabilities would count against them. So, loans and such they took out would hurt not help your standing here.
04-21-2014 09:09 AM
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(04-21-2014 09:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 08:52 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I don't see Tulane on this list.

I'm guessing that we are somewhere between $25-30 million with the new investments in the program.

Liabilities would count against them. So, loans and such they took out would hurt not help your standing here.

Most of the funding for Yulman was done ahead of time - that's part of the reason that the stadium isn't this huge $200m palace.

The baseball stadium, basketball practice facilities, and renovations have all been paid for to the best of my knowledge.
04-21-2014 09:18 AM
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UCONN up from 83 to 58. Sounds good to me.
04-21-2014 09:50 AM
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...orts-2014/

Quote:On average, the five power conferences collect a combined $1.1 billion annually from their network partners. The Big Ten is on top again, collecting some $250 million annually from its TV deals, though this time it doesn’t hold as much of a stranglehold on the field. The Pac-12 matches the $250 million average annual payout, and is closely followed by the ACC at $240 million. The SEC barely out-earns the Big 12 for a lowly fourth at $205 million, but its newly signed TV deal should soon launch the conference to the top of the list.

That said, the average annual values of those TV deals don’t tell the whole story. A network contract will often include an escalator clause, meaning that the annual rights fees increase throughout the term of the agreement. Take the Pac-12, for instance. According to an email sent by Larry Scott to Pac-12 university presidents, the conference will collect $194.25 million this year, and the conference won’t reach the average annual payout of $250 million until the 2018-19 season. Because the SEC’s current deal has been in place since 2008, this year’s payout may be a lot closer to what other conferences are getting.

The financial success of the Big Ten will only continue thanks to the Big Ten Network, which recently became a profitable asset. The success of the network, which is co-owned by the conference and Fox , has had a clear influence on the other conferences. The Pac-12 is wrapping up the second year of its wholly owned network, the SEC’s ESPN-owned network will kick off in August and the ACC and ESPN are reportedly closing in on their own conference-specific network deal.

On a per-school basis, the Big Ten does best with $26.5 million per member school from TV deals, tourney play and bowls. But right on the Big Ten’s tail is the Big 12, which collected $26.2 million per member school from those three sources. Further back are the Pac-12 ($24.9 million), ACC ($21.8 million) and SEC ($19.4 million). It’s necessary to note that these amounts don’t represent what the schools actually receive in conference distributions; the conference first takes a piece of the pot to pay for conference-level expenses, and some new or partial conference members receive smaller distributions.

The per-school breakdown is still useful, however, because conferences with more schools have a financial advantage thanks to a larger inventory to sell network partners and more teams that are able to fight for bowl games and tournament seeds. The Big 12′s earning power at a per-school level shows just how successful it has been both on the field and in negotiating its $2.6 billion TV deal with ESPN and Fox.

When compared to the massive riches of the major conferences, the rest of the college sports world is suffering.

The AAC and Big East form a sort of middle class, taking home some $72 million and $50 million, respectively, this year. The American netted a respectable $30 million from bowls, ranking just behind the Pac-12, and another $22 million from NCAA Tournament play, good for the second-highest among all conferences. It falls far behind, however, because of a TV deal with ESPN that pays just $20 million or so per year, a pittance compared to the $130 million-per-year deal it turned down in 2011.

Even the Big East, which doesn’t play football, gets more from its TV inventory thanks to a 12-year, $500 million deal with Fox. Of course, the conference was lucky that its exodus from the “old Big East” happened to coincide with Fox creating a sports-specific network that had a dire need for live sports programming. The Big East also scored a victory when the so-called Catholic 7 were able to take their basketball units with them; those units are attributable for $7.8 million of the $8.5 million the conference will collect from the NCAA’s basketball fund this year.
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