My wife has a horse and knows people who have worked in NYC's horse carriage business and they said that horses like to work and that this is not much different than those horse and hay rides you take in summer camp but without the traffic and horse poop bags.

But if you have an opinion that differs with one liberals have they come to your house and try to intimidate you and shut your opinion down.

The bottom line is that developers want the property the horse stalls sit on and have pressured mayors for years to get rid of the horse business in NYC. Even Trump pressured mayors to shut them down so he could develop the land. So they get the word out that the horses are mistreated and the loony libs, being totally clueless, fall for it and essentially do the bidding for the developers.

Quote:NEW YORK (AP) — Animal welfare activists picketing Liam Neeson's home on Saturday said they don't agree with him that the city's carriage horses should keep working.

Neeson didn't appear as about 50 demonstrators filled the sidewalk in front of his apartment building on Manhattan's Upper West Side. Police watched, and doormen photographed protesters hoisting signs with such slogans as "Liam Neeson: Stop Supporting Cruelty!" and "Worked to Death!" with an image of a dead horse in a park.

Holding the second sign was Peter Wood, an animal protection investigator for various organizations that say it's cruel for the horses to be subjected to traffic, pollution and possible accidents.

"It's 2014, not 1914. It's time for a change," said Wood, who lives in Manhattan.

"Horses don't belong in traffic, surrounded by buses. They don't belong in the city; it's outdated, it's cruel," he said, adding, "Life attached to a carriage with a poop bag attached to your rear end — that's no life."

Neeson, whose movies include "Schindler's List," ''Taken" and "Non-Stop," is a vocal supporter of the city's carriage horses, which are kept in stables he toured recently with lawmakers. He says the horses are not being mistreated.

"It has been my experience, always, that horses, much like humans, are at their happiest and healthiest when working," Neeson wrote in an April 14 editorial in The New York Times.

He called the horse carriage trade a "humane industry that is well regulated by New York City's Departments of Health and Mental Hygiene and Consumer Affairs."

Neeson said the city's horse-drawn carriages have made an estimated 6 million trips in traffic in the past 30 years, most ending up in Central Park. Four horses have been killed in collisions with motor vehicles, with no human fatalities.

"In contrast to the terrible toll of traffic accidents generally on New Yorkers," Neeson wrote, "the carriage industry has a remarkable safety record."

His publicist declined to comment on Saturday's protest.

The City Council must vote on the issue, but legislation has yet to emerge.

Mayor Bill de Blasio, a Democrat, has pledged to ban the carriages and replace them with electric vintage-style cars, commissioned by a group called NYCLASS.

On Saturday, NYCLASS' members joined protesters from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They noted that the horse-drawn carriage trade was ended in at least three other cities: London in 1947, Paris in 1965 and Toronto in 1998.

The electric vehicle was unveiled several days ago at the New York International Auto Show. But Neeson said it can't replace the horse-drawn carriages, which he calls a "signature element of New York's culture and history."

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(04-20-2014 10:35 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  My wife has a horse and knows people who have worked in NYC's horse carriage business and they said that horses like to work and that this is not much different than those horse and hay rides you take in summer camp but without the traffic and horse poop bags.

But if you have an opinion that differs with one liberals have they come to your house and try to intimidate you and shut your opinion down.

Yes, it's disgusting. These people are ignorant, yet adamant. It's why there is an expression that stripes are for the backs of fools. Society never should ahve given that up.

Nutjobs

Pepper Spray

Why is the government so concerned about horse and cow poop recently?

I wonder what de Blasio crony owns NYCLASS.

(04-20-2014 06:01 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I wonder what de Blasio crony owns NYCLASS.

Well, now that you've asked:

NYCLASS head threatens Daily News photographer while unveiling car to replace horse carriages — SEE IT

Steve Nislick, a parking lot magnate and founder of anti-horse carriage group NYCLASS, was presenting the prototype of the old-fashioned car replica he wants to replace the horse-driven carriage industry when the ugly confrontation took place. An expert also told The News the replica is not appropriate for New York.

The founder of NYCLASS clearly has NO class.

The car-crazy millionaire who wants to ban city carriage horses and replace them with antique vehicles had to be reined in Thursday after threatening to slug a female Daily News photographer in the face.

Steve Nislick, 70, told his handler he was on the verge of getting violent with the photog as he unveiled the prototype of his electric car at the Javits Center.

“Let’s get away from the Daily News before I hit her in the face,” muttered Nislick, the anti-carriage industry crony of Mayor de Blasio

“Steady, steady,” the man with him said, taking Nislick’s elbow and guiding him out of hitting range.

Just moments before, Nislick, founder of New Yorkers for Clean, Livable and Safe Streets, walked away in a huff after being approached by a reporter from The News.

“I have no interest in talking to you,” said the deep-pocketed activist.

“You have one side and you got it,” he sniped, before turning his back to her.

But as the photographer continued to film him, Nislick blew his stack — and threatened to hit her.

Nislick wants drivers to abandon their buggies in favor of the antique cars. His NYCLASS group paid $450,000 to develop the prototype in hopes it would wow the public.

But the idea hasn’t caught on with the carriage drivers or New Yorkers who support keeping the push by New York’s Hometown Newspaper to keep the 156-year-old tradition alive.

As of late afternoon Thursday, more than 7,000 people had signed on to the paper’s Save our Horses Campaign. The petitions, available online and in newspapers, urge de Blasio not to ban the industry that keeps some 300 drivers employed.

Several hundred other supporters have mailed in signed copies of The News’ petition.

“Can you bring me more copies? I’ve already run out,” yelled one carriage driver Thursday, after spotting a News reporter in Central Park.

“It’s a great job everyone is doing for us, we thank you all so much,” said Enda Moran, whose fun-loving horse Murphy was featured in Thursday’s newspaper.

Despite the public outpouring of love for the quaint carriages, de Blasio has insisted that he will do what is “humane” and ban the horses from working.

Earlier Thursday, the mayor mayor was challenged by the Hot 97 morning show hosts to “kick” Liam Neeson’s “ass” because of the actor’s push to save the city’s horse-drawn carriage industry.

“De Blasio, kick his ass! He cannot fight like he does in those movies in real life,” urged one of the hosts during de Blasio’s p radio station. Mr. de Blasio during a morning appearance on the station.

“You’re way bigger than him,” another host added.

As far as de Blasio’s suggestion of replacing the horse-drawn carriages with electric antique-style replicas, a walk in the park might be a better idea.

Drivers and passengers are in for an uncomfortable ride, according to an engineer who designed similar vehicles for his touring company. The replica car — shown to the press at the New York International Auto Show — looks “like a truck,” said Eric Lundquist, who owned San Francisco touring company Mr. Toad’s for eight years.

“It could be done cheaper, smaller, lighter, and more user-friendly,” Lundquist said of the replica car, which is built to look like a 1909 antique ride.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nycl...-1.1760306

I think it should be legal to confront these mobs with force if they are on your property.

He should just recite the "I will find you, and I will kill you" monologue from Taken, that'll get them to run away in a hurry.

Maybe it's because they don't want any methane gas from the horses. You know, like the Seinfield episode with Kramer.

I think horse carriages are more touristy than old cars.

Wonder if Liam Neeson was even home? Hope not since that would make those protestors look even more foolish.