Fanatical Wrote:But why does the BE need another team to play DI-A football? It's doing fine with eight.

Scheduling, continuity through the various seasons (everyone plays every sport

cardtopper Wrote:or why not drop ND upgrade Villanova and add a replacement team for ND that plays all sports. Ten teams in Football and still sixteen b-ball schools.

One of the major hang-ups is the refusal of the basketball side to have an unbalanced membership. More football than basketball schools is unacceptable to them or you already would have seen a 9th all sports member and Depaul or MU not added during expansion. The Big East didn't 'need' more basketball members after the ACC raid unless of course you believe the basketball side insisted on adding to protect themselves in a future conference split.

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panite Wrote:

tigersharktwo Wrote:The DEAD HORSE IS CONTINUALLY BROUGHT UP BY CRAPPY.Its not happening.I am glad everyone is sure about what Villanova is doing when they have announced NOTHING.The only stadium they are fixing up is their current one.They have a new scoreboard and press box.If they move up they they will likelyexpand it for 1AA games and games with low level 1A teams.Otherwise its the LINC.

The dead horse is continually brought up by TS2 Villanova can't play at the Linc unless they play Temple. Temple has the lease to play FB there until around 2015 or 2018. I think they had 15 years left
in 2003 but I am not sure. If Nova moves up and that is a big IF :drunk2: they will have to play somewhere else - more than likey at Franklin Field if Penn lets them play there IF they move up.

PANTEEN YOU CANNOT READ.CRAPPY STARTED THIS CRAP.BY THE WAY CHECK ON VILLANOVA PLAYING TEMPLE AT THE LINC FOR 4 YEARS.

Made no reference to who started the thread. The deadhorse theme that you miss lead everyone with is the Linc lease. Temple has the lease to play there not Nova. If these teams play each other there for 4 years it is because Temple has the lease to play there not Nova. Nova cannot play BE or any other teams there as long as Temple has the lease there for their home games. They will have to play elsewhere for their homes if they don't play at their own stadium.

tigersharktwo Wrote:

BJUnklFkr Wrote:

Fanatical Wrote:Why does it matter that some schools don't play division I-A football?

I'll tell you what does matter. This sorry comglammeration that prevents every team from playing a round robin home and home basketball schedule. And, it's now depriving us of a home and home vs. Louisville.

I love being in the BE, but it's ruining UC's rivalries

It certainly not as good as a 12 member league with a adding psu,nd,bc and md,but is sure better than anything like the the cusa leftovers.

Cusa leftover dead horse theory again :snore: :snore:

L-yes Wrote:[quote="Fanatical"]But why does the BE need another team to play DI-A football? It's doing fine with eight.

Scheduling, continuity through the various seasons (everyone plays every sport

panite Wrote:

tigersharktwo Wrote:

panite Wrote:

tigersharktwo Wrote:The DEAD HORSE IS CONTINUALLY BROUGHT UP BY CRAPPY.Its not happening.I am glad everyone is sure about what Villanova is doing when they have announced NOTHING.The only stadium they are fixing up is their current one.They have a new scoreboard and press box.If they move up they they will likelyexpand it for 1AA games and games with low level 1A teams.Otherwise its the LINC.

The dead horse is continually brought up by TS2 Villanova can't play at the Linc unless they play Temple. Temple has the lease to play FB there until around 2015 or 2018. I think they had 15 years left
in 2003 but I am not sure. If Nova moves up and that is a big IF :drunk2: they will have to play somewhere else - more than likey at Franklin Field if Penn lets them play there IF they move up.

PANTEEN YOU CANNOT READ.CRAPPY STARTED THIS CRAP.BY THE WAY CHECK ON VILLANOVA PLAYING TEMPLE AT THE LINC FOR 4 YEARS.

Made no reference to who started the thread. The deadhorse theme that you miss lead everyone with is the Linc lease. Temple has the lease to play there not Nova. If these teams play each other there for 4 years it is because Temple has the lease to play there not Nova. Nova cannot play BE or any other teams there as long as Temple has the lease there for their home games. They will have to play elsewhere for their homes if they don't play at their own stadium.

PANTEEN YOU CAN SEE THE CONTRACT IN YOUR HEAD?????

panite Wrote:

tigersharktwo Wrote:

BJUnklFkr Wrote:

Fanatical Wrote:Why does it matter that some schools don't play division I-A football?

I'll tell you what does matter. This sorry comglammeration that prevents every team from playing a round robin home and home basketball schedule. And, it's now depriving us of a home and home vs. Louisville.

I love being in the BE, but it's ruining UC's rivalries

It certainly not as good as a 12 member league with a adding psu,nd,bc and md,but is sure better than anything like the the cusa leftovers.

Cusa leftover dead horse theory again :snore: :snore:

NO PANTEEN the 8 teams are the current football 8 plus psu,nd,bc and umd NOT THE NON BCS CRAP TEAMS OF CUSA.

Lolly Popp Wrote:My vision of the future of the Big East is that it will become a conference whose fans someday will not have to be on the internet posting about things like bowl problems, expansion issues, and split desires.

In order for that to happen, the league will not be a 16 team monstrosity which can only send a maximum of half its teams to the big dance. So you and I are actually on the same page there.

Is anyone really happy with the eight bids from last year, when it should have been nine?

A split league of the FB schools could easily send 6-7 teams without the additional eight mouths to feed.

1) Football school's need to form strong union & break off

2) offer ND chance to join with navy alliance, ie ND + Navy play 4 rotated school's h/a every year. If nd says no( know doubt they will try to split the football school's by offering some...pitt + rutgers...games while not offering others)

3) If ND ko's #2, split and add C.Flordia

4) I like the idea of adding 3 non-football teams for rivals and markets, say UMASS,Temple, and URI. Thus, you got


Umass
Uri
Uconn
Syra
Rut
Temple

Pitt
W.Virg
Cincy
Lville
S.F
C.F

Anybody doubt this league would make more $'s than the current format for the football school's?

I havent read the whole thread so Ill just throw these things out there for the umpteenth time

ND will never join the Big East
Nova will never go 1-A (money) and right now theyre a crappy 1-AA as it is and honestly, Temple is a more viable option than Nova football (not suggesting Temple, just saying how pathetic Nova FB is)

The Big East conference is fine with 8 members but for scheduling purposes we should consider expanding to 9 in 2010. Either ECU, or Memphis would be fine IMO

As a Memphis fan, I would certainly love to be in the Big East.

But, I don't think your football scheduling should be that much of a problem. The other BCS conferences are literally running away from any remotely talented non-BCS teams. Scheduling a BCS opponent home-and-home is difficult to impossible for us.

I propose forming a three-conference liason with the Big East, C-USA, and Sunbelt. Don't run away yet - listen. The Big East agrees to schedule one game a year for each team with a C-USA opponent. C-USA agrees to four more games with the Sunbelt covering all 12 C-USA teams. The matchups can then be made by the conference offices as they make out their conference schedules. The stronger C-USA teams can be pushed to the stronger Big East teams and the weakest C-USA teams pick up the four Sunbelt opponents.

This would give you one more game with guaranteed opponents without the need to commit to a particular school years in advance. It would help C-USA fill their OOC games with quality opponents.

While this may not be the actual solution, some type of conference-to-conference arrangement like this would elminate the need for the Big East to expand just for football scheduling.

Claw Wrote:As a Memphis fan, I would certainly love to be in the Big East.

But, I don't think your football scheduling should be that much of a problem. The other BCS conferences are literally running away from any remotely talented non-BCS teams. Scheduling a BCS opponent home-and-home is difficult to impossible for us.

I propose forming a three-conference liason with the Big East, C-USA, and Sunbelt. Don't run away yet - listen. The Big East agrees to schedule one game a year for each team with a C-USA opponent. C-USA agrees to four more games with the Sunbelt covering all 12 C-USA teams. The matchups can then be made by the conference offices as they make out their conference schedules. The stronger C-USA teams can be pushed to the stronger Big East teams and the weakest C-USA teams pick up the four Sunbelt opponents.

This would give you one more game with guaranteed opponents without the need to commit to a particular school years in advance. It would help C-USA fill their OOC games with quality opponents.

While this may not be the actual solution, some type of conference-to-conference arrangement like this would elminate the need for the Big East to expand just for football scheduling.

Looking at your scenario, it actually makes since.

My vision of the future BEast goes something like this.....

2012 The Ville Football Schedule and Results

W 77-7 UK (who wins the SEC with a 11-1 Record)
W 77-7 Michigan (who wins the Big 10 with a 11-1 Record)
W 77-7 Florida St. (who wins the ACC with a 11-1 Record)
W 77-7 Texas (who wins the Big 12 with a 11-1 Record)
W 77-7 USF (who finished the season 12-1 after beating Texas)
W 77-7 Cincy (who finished the season 11-2 after beating Michigan)
W 77-7 Memphis (BEast #9 who finishes the season 10-3 after beating Florida St.)
W 77-7 WVU (who finishes the season 9-4, but beats 5 ranked teams)
W 77-7 Pitt (who finishes the season 8-5, but beats 5 ranked teams)
W 77-7 UConn (who finishes the season 7-6, but beats 5 ranked teams)
W 77-7 Rutgers (who finishes the season 5-7, but beats 4 ranked teams)
W 77-7 Syracuse (who finishes the season 4-8, but beats 4 ranked teams)

Oh, I forgot to mention all BEast wins come againts the other conferences top tier teams.

Oh yeah, Louisville (13-0) plays Kentucky for the NCAA Championship and wins 84-3!

Claw Wrote:As a Memphis fan, I would certainly love to be in the Big East.

But, I don't think your football scheduling should be that much of a problem. The other BCS conferences are literally running away from any remotely talented non-BCS teams. Scheduling a BCS opponent home-and-home is difficult to impossible for us.

I propose forming a three-conference liason with the Big East, C-USA, and Sunbelt. Don't run away yet - listen. The Big East agrees to schedule one game a year for each team with a C-USA opponent. C-USA agrees to four more games with the Sunbelt covering all 12 C-USA teams. The matchups can then be made by the conference offices as they make out their conference schedules. The stronger C-USA teams can be pushed to the stronger Big East teams and the weakest C-USA teams pick up the four Sunbelt opponents.

This would give you one more game with guaranteed opponents without the need to commit to a particular school years in advance. It would help C-USA fill their OOC games with quality opponents.

While this may not be the actual solution, some type of conference-to-conference arrangement like this would elminate the need for the Big East to expand just for football scheduling.

Sounds good but with or without your scheduling theory I would take Memphis. BE FB would help our recruiting and build your FB program and Memphis would add a solid BB program and potentially bring an additional bowl with the Liberty Bowl and it payout. Now that's adding value to the league. More BB credits and another bowl with a pretty good payout. Grab that TIGER I say. :memphis:

The BE admin already said yes to the 16 team conference.They said yes to the tv money .The BE admin said forget about cusa leftovers with regard to either football or to all sports.I am glad that that some know whether Villanova will go 1a.They all have the secret word.

There is no secret word! Its common sense to know that Nova will NEVER go 1-A!

1. Their stadium is not big enough and they are a small private University without the money or resources or space to expand that stadium. The only other option would be the Linc which Temple currently has the rights to.

2. They suck! They are currently 2-4 (1-2 A-10) That is not gonna boost the Big East rep, we would be better off with 8 at that point.

3. Why would they want to try? They saw how Temple couldnt get it done, so why would they want to try when they are gonna have the same situation? Limited facilities, they will have to use the Linc, limited space, limited money. If by some ridiculous stretch Nova actually did make the jump they would most undoubtedly crash and burn like Temple barring some herculaen effort by a coach sent by God himself, who would most undoubtedly bail for a bigger pay day if he got Nova as far as a bowl game.

Rant over

Sorry but thats just the way it is.

OK, Nova will be left behind then! :shhh:

Here's my dream All-sports BE:

Boston College
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pittsburgh
West Virgina
Maryland
Virginia Tech
Notre Dame
Cinncinnati
Louisville

bluesox Wrote:4) I like the idea of adding 3 non-football teams for rivals and markets, say UMASS,Temple, and URI. Thus, you got


Umass
Uri
Uconn
Syra
Rut
Temple

Pitt
W.Virg
Cincy
Lville
S.F
C.F

Anybody doubt this league would make more $'s than the current format for the football school's?

With UConn sucking in the Big East so far, why would it make any sense to add a couple of mid major New England schools to the mix? It is not a talent hotbed. Better off grabbing a couple of MAC schools from midwestern football country that already have Division 1-A football.

The move to make IMHO, is to add 1 football school and 1 BB only school.

Add Memphis and St.Louis.

Football Division
Syracuse
Rutgers
Connecticut
South Florida
Memphis
Louisville
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
West Virginia

Basketball Division
St.Louis
Marquette
DePaul
Notre Dame
St.Johns
Seton Hall
Villanova
Georgetown
Providence

the BE is set... its over... quit already.. its a 16 /8 school monster.. and thats what it will be for a long time... once the tv deal was settled so was the league. ( lmfao Not even BUFFALO will crack the NBE. lmfao )