Libs, what do you have to say about this?

From the Huffington Post. The word "Muslim is only mentioned once and is buried.

Quote:The 2014 Gay Games won't take place in Cleveland until August, but that hasn't stopped some city residents from speaking out against the forthcoming event.

As The Plain Dealer is reporting, a number of taxi drivers working for three companies which operate out of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport are refusing to drive cabs featuring rooftop placards advertising the Gay Games, which take place from Aug. 9-16.
The Boston Globe's Gary Washburn shared a photograph of the signs in question on Twitter:



The publication cites a statement from airport officials, which indicated that some drivers from Ace and Yellow Taxi have informed their employers that they will no longer participate in the Cleveland Hopkins' dedicated taxi cab program because of the advertisements, citing religious reasons. The opposing drivers are of Muslim faith, according to the article.

Meanwhile, as the Associated Press pointed out, Americab's General Manager Patrick Keenan said the company doesn't share the views of the few drivers who have opposed the signs. Airport officials told The Cleveland Leader that an agreement between taxi cab stand operator Standard Parking had been reached, allowing for the replacing of drivers who are opting not to drive in the airport's 75-car taxi fleet.

Still, Gay Games organizers say they are disappointed, but undeterred by the news. "When you look at what's going on around the world it's not a huge surprise," Executive Director Tom Nobbe told local news outlet WOIO. "Even though there will be a handful of folks who are not comfortable the vast majority and we're seeing it now are totally enthusiastic and ready to welcome all these folks into town."

It isn't the first time taxi drivers have been at the epicenter of an anti-gay controversy. Last year, Steven White and his boyfriend Matt McCrea were reportedly returning from Chicago's O’Hare International Airport when they said their cab driver forced them out of the car after what they described as a quick peck on the lips.

"He indicated that it was a public mode of transportation and we shouldn’t kiss in his cab,” White recalled. "Rarely in my life have I ever wondered if I would have been treated differently if I were heterosexual. That thought hardly ever crosses my mind, but last night I wondered.”

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From Fox

Quote:Roughly 25 Muslim drivers dispatched to Cleveland Hopkins International Airport are refusing to drive cabs adorned with advertising for the region’s upcoming Gay Games, citing religious reasons.

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homophobia is homophobia regardless of their religion.

if they belong to a cab company then the company has the right to fire them for not doing their jobs.

if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss.

Do you feel that way about cake bakers and wedding photogs if they own their own co as well

Myself, I would ask all of them before getting in my cab if they were of the intolerant persuasion, bully fags. If yes: get out. If no: where can I drop you.

(04-18-2014 07:49 PM)DFWMINER Wrote:  Do you feel that way about cake bakers and wedding photogs if they own their own co as well

when you are a business that provides a good or a service then you have the duty to offer those goods/services to everyone. there are reasons to deny someone those goods/services but that is only under an abnormal circumstance ==> being gay does not count as an abnormal circumstance.

(04-18-2014 07:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  homophobia is homophobia regardless of their religion.

if they belong to a cab company then the company has the right to fire them for not doing their jobs.

if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job and move on to another baker?

(04-18-2014 08:05 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 07:49 PM)DFWMINER Wrote:  Do you feel that way about cake bakers and wedding photogs if they own their own co as well

when you are a business that provides a good or a service then you have the duty to offer those goods/services to everyone. there are reasons to deny someone those goods/services but that is only under an abnormal circumstance ==> being gay does not count as an abnormal circumstance.

So you'll sue the cabbies, then correct?

Will this be our courts or sharia court?

Who exactly are the intolerant bullies? Its pretty clear.

Not all religions/beliefs get the same treatment…

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(04-18-2014 08:24 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Who exactly are the intolerant bullies? Its pretty clear.

Why the rhetorical question?

(04-18-2014 08:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 07:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  homophobia is homophobia regardless of their religion.

if they belong to a cab company then the company has the right to fire them for not doing their jobs.

if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job and move on to another baker?

where did I ever say they couldn't?????

(04-18-2014 08:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 07:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  homophobia is homophobia regardless of their religion.

if they belong to a cab company then the company has the right to fire them for not doing their jobs.

if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job and move on to another baker?

where did I ever say they couldn't?????

Libs have been advocating that once they go to a bakery to get a cake for a gay wedding the bakers have no choice but to make the cake. Firing them, like firing a lawyer who you don't entirely trust or isn't making your case very well, would mean walking down to the next bakery and having them make one. What was your stance on the gay bakery thing?

(04-18-2014 08:41 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 07:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  homophobia is homophobia regardless of their religion.

if they belong to a cab company then the company has the right to fire them for not doing their jobs.

if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job and move on to another baker?

where did I ever say they couldn't?????

Libs have been advocating that once they go to a bakery to get a cake for a gay wedding the bakers have no choice but to make the cake. Firing them, like firing a lawyer who you don't entirely trust or isn't making your case very well, would mean walking down to the next bakery and having them make one. What was your stance on the gay bakery thing?

if you have a job you do the f***ing job or else you get canned.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job

i really don't understand how this is a question you need answered.

(04-18-2014 08:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:41 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 07:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  homophobia is homophobia regardless of their religion.

if they belong to a cab company then the company has the right to fire them for not doing their jobs.

if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job and move on to another baker?

where did I ever say they couldn't?????

Libs have been advocating that once they go to a bakery to get a cake for a gay wedding the bakers have no choice but to make the cake. Firing them, like firing a lawyer who you don't entirely trust or isn't making your case very well, would mean walking down to the next bakery and having them make one. What was your stance on the gay bakery thing?

if you have a job you do the f***ing job or else you get canned.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job

i really don't understand how this is a question you need answered.

Because when a baker won't do his job the feds sue him and shut him down. He's not simply fired by the gay couple.

(04-18-2014 08:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:41 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 08:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job and move on to another baker?

where did I ever say they couldn't?????

Libs have been advocating that once they go to a bakery to get a cake for a gay wedding the bakers have no choice but to make the cake. Firing them, like firing a lawyer who you don't entirely trust or isn't making your case very well, would mean walking down to the next bakery and having them make one. What was your stance on the gay bakery thing?

if you have a job you do the f***ing job or else you get canned.

So why can't a gay couple fire a baker for not doing his job

i really don't understand how this is a question you need answered.

Because when a baker won't do his job the feds sue him and shut him down. He's not simply fired by the gay couple.

yeah i guess you missed the whole "discrimination" aspect of it.

This is interesting. Liberals love both gays and Muslims, which side will they choose? What to do?? I wager gay trumps Muslim - we'll see.

Clearly, john indicated that taxi drivers that are independent can refuse to promote gay events on their cabs
["if they are indy, then they can do whatever the F*** they want but it's their loss. ],

yet indicated that those that provide goods/services must provide said goods/services unless some strong reason applies
["when you are a business that provides a good or a service then you have the duty to offer those goods/services to everyone. there are reasons to deny someone those goods/services but that is only under an abnormal circumstance ==> being gay does not count as an abnormal circumstance. "]

So to clarify, why can an independent Muslim taxi driver refuse service due to his religious beliefs, yet the independent Christian baker cannot?

I would never turn away gay customers...

However, I don't think it's a smart strategy for the gay movement to force faux equality. Forcing some Muslim cab driver or Christian baker to act against his or her conscience is simply going to build bitterness.

For most parts, the world is not a zero-sum game. I love diversity, but the world doesn't owe anyone anything.

(04-18-2014 09:17 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Clearly, john indicated that taxi drivers that are independent can refuse to promote gay events on their cabs, yet indicated that those that provide goods/services must provide said goods/services unless some strong reason applies.

So to clarify, why can an independent Muslim taxi driver refuse service his religious beliefs, yet the independent Christian baker not?

i have indicated that a muslim who owns his own cab can choose what kinda ads to put on his cab. but if he is part of a company he can't.

reread my post (I have edited) and please reply....interested in your response.