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(04-17-2014 12:08 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: Yep. Along with Dre Applewhite. They list him at 6'5" but he's in one of my classes and he looks about 6'3".
Never mind. Just asked him in class and he says he's 6'5".
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Ask me- I'll tell you I'm 6'8".
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(04-17-2014 02:37 PM)Dwight Wrote: (04-17-2014 12:15 PM)utrocks84 Wrote: due to college players transferring at will, some several times in 5 years teams can't stop recruiting when their limits are met in the fall or winter. Lemons may not have been forced out, but left to be closer to home or get more playing time. To me a coach who tells a player to look elsewhere is doing the player a service. This allows him to find a scholarship at a school he maybe able to play at, or allows them to stay and be in the dog house and get splinters. I haven't been privy to any scholarships being revoked or not renewed. As for Northwestern, they seldom have anybody transfer in or out. This is strictly a group of players wanting to share in the profits of the school.
Yes, it does make sense to me that, even after the roster is full, a coach would want to keep communicating with potential recruits in case players decide to transfer out. And you're right, Lemons may not have been forced out. It kind of looks like he was, though. If we had signed Reyes instead of Stokes, then Aubrey Williams probably would be the one without a scholarship for next year, and Lemons would probably still be on the roster as the back-up point guard. We don't know for sure that Lemons wanted to stay, but we do know that A. Williams, Aparicio, and everyone else wanted to stay, but TK was still actively recruiting for a spot that didn't exist.
A coach is doing a player a service if he advises the player that he may not see much court time and then allows the player to decide whether or not to leave. A coach is not doing a STUDENT-athlete a service when the coach tells the player that his scholarship will be cut because a more talented player was recruited. Remember, these kids are working on degrees, making friends, building their lives, maybe getting involved in a serious romantic relationship - and then they are told that they have to go.
Maybe this is a college basketball problem in general rather than a UT problem. I only pay attention to UT and don't really know much about what goes on elsewhere. But I find it really disturbing.
lots of good points Dwight. here's a link to one of the better commentaries I've seen printed on the union push
http://www.midweek.com/nlrb-ruling-blow-ncaa-hypocrisy/
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Looks like Kurt Hall has a similar line-drive outside shot to Rian's.
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With Stokes being so short it concerns me that he can't jump well. A few of those rebound slams were close.
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His arms are long enough it doesn't look like he needs to jump.
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(04-19-2014 03:31 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: With Stokes being so short it concerns me that he can't jump well. A few of those rebound slams were close.
I know...that's crazy that he's 5'11" and can dunk like that. And I didn't realize that Mosley was rated #41 at his position and #11 player in Florida.
And just my guess but I have a feeling Hall is more around 6'4" than 6'6"
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(04-19-2014 08:46 PM)Campbell4President Wrote: (04-19-2014 03:31 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: With Stokes being so short it concerns me that he can't jump well. A few of those rebound slams were close.
I know...that's crazy that he's 5'11" and can dunk like that. And I didn't realize that Mosley was rated #41 at his position and #11 player in Florida.
And just my guess but I have a feelingd Hall is more around 6'4" than 6'6"
So was Barkley.
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(04-19-2014 08:46 PM)Campbell4President Wrote: (04-19-2014 03:31 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: With Stokes being so short it concerns me that he can't jump well. A few of those rebound slams were close.
I know...that's crazy that he's 5'11" and can dunk like that. And I didn't realize that Mosley was rated #41 at his position and #11 player in Florida.
And just my guess but I have a feeling Hall is more around 6'4" than 6'6"
I saw that about Mosely's ranking, so it's surprising that he didn't make any of the three all-state teams in his 8A division. FWIW
Also wouldn't be surprised if Hall was 6-3 from his videos.
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(04-19-2014 03:31 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: With Stokes being so short it concerns me that he can't jump well. A few of those rebound slams were close.
I kept double checking his number to see if the player on the video was "5'11"" …he jumps like Rian who I believe is closer to 6'1" than 6'3"
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Couple of points on Nichols vs. today. Back then there were 15 schollies vs. 13 today. I don't remember anyone being "encouraged" to depart nor have them "over recruit". There were plenty of times back then when players did not pan out. A lot of them saw the handwriting as to playing time and hit the road but some stayed for the degree.
Applewhite does not look 6'5" in person on the court. I saw him working out before the WMU game after the Alumni game. He is incredibly well built but not tall.
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(04-20-2014 12:32 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote: (04-19-2014 03:31 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: With Stokes being so short it concerns me that he can't jump well. A few of those rebound slams were close.
I kept double checking his number to see if the player on the video was "5'11"" …he jumps like Rian who I believe is closer to 6'1" than 6'3"
Rian is 6-2. He's just a touch shorter than Coach K who says he's 6-2 1/2.
I believe Applewhite is 6-3.
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(04-20-2014 02:12 PM)rocket 51 Wrote: Couple of points on Nichols vs. today. Back then there were 15 schollies vs. 13 today. I don't remember anyone being "encouraged" to depart nor have them "over recruit". There were plenty of times back then when players did not pan out. A lot of them saw the handwriting as to playing time and hit the road but some stayed for the degree.
Applewhite does not look 6'5" in person on the court. I saw him working out before the WMU game after the Alumni game. He is incredibly well built but not tall.
Not sure whether Aaron Hopkins was a Melvin or Nichols recruit but I do remember that he was coersced to trade in his BB scholarship for one in track. Hopkins could really jump but he had a real awkward jump shot. In the switch hopkins ended up winning the Penn Relay and the NCAA hop-step and jump. I think he came from the same White Plains NY HS as Jim Gray.
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(04-21-2014 08:24 AM)Manorhouse guy Wrote: (04-20-2014 02:12 PM)rocket 51 Wrote: Couple of points on Nichols vs. today. Back then there were 15 schollies vs. 13 today. I don't remember anyone being "encouraged" to depart nor have them "over recruit". There were plenty of times back then when players did not pan out. A lot of them saw the handwriting as to playing time and hit the road but some stayed for the degree.
Applewhite does not look 6'5" in person on the court. I saw him working out before the WMU game after the Alumni game. He is incredibly well built but not tall.
Not sure whether Aaron Hopkins was a Melvin or Nichols recruit but I do remember that he was coersced to trade in his BB scholarship for one in track. Hopkins could really jump but he had a real awkward jump shot. In the switch hopkins ended up winning the Penn Relay and the NCAA hop-step and jump. I think he came from the same White Plains NY HS as Jim Gray.
Posted this before but Hopkins was hampered by an injury to his elbow . Injured it banging it on the RIM. he was 6'1". He definitely had some HOPkins. So that makes two, counting bill Brown that ended up moving over to T&F aftyer their basketball skills didn't cut it. Not sure why they didn't transfer to other schools.
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