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(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  LOL don't stop there big shooter. Start your campaign to end prohibition on smack and crack. Live free drugie.


What a pathetic response.

I haven't even smoked pot in over 10 years. AND I DON'T DRINK.

Sad to see you have to resort to such dishonest tactics.

I honestly though better of you than these type of personal attacks. Just shows how insecure and intellectually empty you are on this issue.
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(04-16-2014 10:20 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:01 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 09:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It isn't justification for criminalization. It is already criminal. You are the one who wants to change the law. The burden is on you to give a reason why. I am open to the idea, unlike Okla, but the "alcohol is legal" is a poor argument for changing the pot laws.

The argument here is to keep it criminalized at this point. States are already beginning to decriminalizing it right now.

I pointed to about 1000 other substances that are harmful to adults and children as an example. I don't have to hold myself to "just alcohol". There are countless other substances I can use in comparison.

This is the basis of the entire argument against pot, and yet we ignore 1000 other substances that have the same, sometimes even worse effects on people and children.

The burden isn't on me to do a single thing here but let it play out. I already know were this is going. Prohibition is over.

I might agree that the prohibition is over, the use without consequences however is not…
people don’t want a doper making their cheeseburger anymore than a user school bus
mechanic, or amusement park ride operator, delivery driver…exedra.

I expect advertising a “drug free workforce” will become standard marketing material.


And I don't disagree with any of that.

And I won't be personally insulting you either. Even if we did disagree.

Even though certain posters do every time this issue is discussed.
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(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Again, you are the one that wants the change.

oh, its not just me.

Check the polls my friend, more the half the country wants the laws changed.
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(04-16-2014 10:28 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Again, you are the one that wants the change.

oh, its not just me.

Check the polls my friend, more the half the country wants the laws changed.

But to what extent? As I said above, I don't think an adult possessing a small amount should be a crime. My answer would have to depend on the question being asked and the answer should not be interpreted as "I want Virginia to have an open market for marijuana".

One thing I do agree needs to be changed is the federal law. It should be a state right. Colorado is given that right now, but what if the next AG enforces the law? Lobbying congress to defer to the states would be my move if I were a pot activist.
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(04-16-2014 10:21 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  LOL don't stop there big shooter. Start your campaign to end prohibition on smack and crack. Live free drugie.


What a pathetic response.

I haven't even smoked pot in over 10 years. AND I DON'T DRINK.

Sad to see you have to resort to such dishonest tactics.

I honestly though better of you than these type of personal attacks. Just shows how insecure and intellectually empty you are on this issue.

Says the guy that started the personal attack exchange. Read the thread.

Following your string of logic, those chemicals should be legal as well. At least have the same courage as the rest of the John Stossles on this board and admit you want no laws regarding drugs.
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(04-16-2014 10:28 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Again, you are the one that wants the change.

oh, its not just me.

Check the polls my friend, more the half the country wants the laws changed.

You mean the polls generated by those who want the laws changed?
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(04-16-2014 10:40 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Says the guy that started the personal attack exchange. Read the thread.

Following your string of logic, those chemicals should be legal as well. At least have the same courage as the rest of the John Stossles on this board and admit you want no laws regarding drugs.



And now you are doing it again......

I don't support that position at all and never have.

Why do you have to resort to such dishonesty?

Calm down and read. I never attacked you personally, I just said your position on this issue was hypocritical imo.

Meanwhile, you're calling me a drug addict, a beanie wearing doper, and putting words and positions in my mouth i never said (all while calling ME a liar) and all sorts of dishonest things.

That is some lame ass chit, dixie.

Its disappointing.
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Why are the conservatives on this board so pro nanny state. They just love the government telling them what to do!
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(04-16-2014 10:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:28 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Again, you are the one that wants the change.

oh, its not just me.

Check the polls my friend, more the half the country wants the laws changed.

But to what extent? As I said above, I don't think an adult possessing a small amount should be a crime. My answer would have to depend on the question being asked and the answer should not be interpreted as "I want Virginia to have an open market for marijuana".

One thing I do agree needs to be changed is the federal law. It should be a state right. Colorado is given that right now, but what if the next AG enforces the law? Lobbying congress to defer to the states would be my move if I were a pot activist.

I agree with all of this.

We are much more in agreement on this issue than you realize.
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(04-16-2014 08:19 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 06:04 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Who is advocating that adolescents use Cannabis or any other substance? This study validates what most of us already know in regard to developing brains and substances. It has nothing to do however with the issue of adults being able to partake of whatever substance they choose...as long as they do not violate the principle of non aggression while doing it.

I fully endorse the prohibition of Cannabis or any other mind altering substance to minors. If we are going to be honest though with ours selves we must come to some understanding that our current way of handling this that encourages an illegal black market and puts our children in more danger. Some sensible drug laws and state control of Cannabis seems a more logical solution to keeping it away from minors.

Fo, as usual you are living in a dream world, ignoring human nature. Legalizing pot will not eliminate the black market. It is not too damn hard to understand that legalization will have aspects that will spiral out of control. We do not need another socially acceptable intoxicant.

I don't make a case that we can get rid of any black market completely. The way Colorado has legalized Cannabis by jacking the price way out of market equilibrium actually encourages it. What I am talking about is access. It is undeniable that minors can buy pot pretty easily now. Im talking about reasonable control of the substance even stricter than proofed alcohol. Make the laws for illegal distribution of Cannabis so onerous than only a fool would try to sell it. Surely that combination would drastically reduce black market street sales.

Sorry to be the one to tell you Sum...but...Cannabis is already a socially accepted substance in many places. I understand your position though.
I base my position on freedom. Freedom to kill ones self if that is what they want to do...as long as it is ONLY them that incurs "actual" harm in that process. I really could care less if pot is dangerous or not..any more than I care if booze is dangerous. Both are dangerous in the hands of fools. I don't support laws designed to protect people against themselves. I fully endorse laws designed to protect people from others and their foolishness.
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(04-16-2014 10:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:28 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Again, you are the one that wants the change.

oh, its not just me.

Check the polls my friend, more the half the country wants the laws changed.

But to what extent? As I said above, I don't think an adult possessing a small amount should be a crime. My answer would have to depend on the question being asked and the answer should not be interpreted as "I want Virginia to have an open market for marijuana".

One thing I do agree needs to be changed is the federal law. It should be a state right. Colorado is given that right now, but what if the next AG enforces the law? Lobbying congress to defer to the states would be my move if I were a pot activist.

I agree. It should be left up to the States to decide what and how to handle this. Cannabis should be removed from schedule 1 and left up to the States.
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(04-16-2014 11:17 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  Why are the conservatives on this board so pro nanny state. They just love the government telling them what to do!

It is all about the "children"...or so they claim. I tend to agree with you that many of them are just control freaks at heart. If they really cared about the children?...they would do something to stop drug dealers from selling pot to kids. They don't. In fact our policies put children in danger...every damn day.
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I expect that government controlled marijuana will
eventually have the debilitating potency of 3% beer.
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(04-15-2014 09:44 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(04-15-2014 09:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  If you can legally drink alcohol and smoke tobacco...I don't understand why you can't legally smoke, vaporize, consume marijuana.

I mean, it wouldn't be a "gateway drug" if you didn't have to go to a drug dealer to buy it...

Why not meth and heroin?

Why alcohol and tobacco?
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(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You are dreaming if you think it will become legal in places like Alabama, South Carolina, or Oklahoma. Prohibition of pot huh?

Alabama's legislature passed and the governor just signed legalizing using it for a limited medical and research use.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...BU20140320

Nose under the tent? I don't know, but even this surprised the hell out of me.
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(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You are dreaming if you think it will become legal in places like Alabama, South Carolina, or Oklahoma. Prohibition of pot huh?

Alabama's legislature passed and the governor just signed legalizing using it for a limited medical and research use.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...BU20140320

Nose under the tent? I don't know, but even this surprised the hell out of me.

It is just a matter of time now. I understand the control freaks can't stand this..but..they just will have to deal with it. The tide is firmly turned toward more and more freedom on this issue.

I predict that we will see big Pharma involved in this at some point. That old "profit motive" thing tends to drive policies. If an opportunity for profit pops up involving medicinal Cannabis?..You can almost bet it will happen.
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(04-16-2014 11:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You are dreaming if you think it will become legal in places like Alabama, South Carolina, or Oklahoma. Prohibition of pot huh?

Alabama's legislature passed and the governor just signed legalizing using it for a limited medical and research use.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...BU20140320

Nose under the tent? I don't know, but even this surprised the hell out of me.

Marinol has been around since the 80s. Most states allow it for chemo patients. This isn't even remotely connected to legalization for medical or recreational use.
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(04-16-2014 11:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 11:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 10:14 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You are dreaming if you think it will become legal in places like Alabama, South Carolina, or Oklahoma. Prohibition of pot huh?

Alabama's legislature passed and the governor just signed legalizing using it for a limited medical and research use.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...BU20140320

Nose under the tent? I don't know, but even this surprised the hell out of me.

It is just a matter of time now. I understand the control freaks can't stand this..but..they just will have to deal with it. The tide is firmly turned toward more and more freedom on this issue.

I predict that we will see big Pharma involved in this at some point. That old "profit motive" thing tends to drive policies. If an opportunity for profit pops up involving medicinal Cannabis?..You can almost bet it will happen.

It has nothing to do with being a control freak. It has everything to do with being able to see a cause and effect, and understanding when people are lying about the real reason they want something legalized. It has to do with an unproductive culture and the rising drug use among minors. All of which the legalization crowd either doesn't want to acknowledge or cannot acknowledged. It's the very issue that keeps libertarians like yourself on the fringe. Nationwide legalization has the same likelihood as nationwide prostitution. It will remain confined to enclaves...thus dividing us further.

I would respect your stance more if you would follow through with your logic and say you want all drugs legalized and sold over the counter.

People like you are living a life of illusion thinking that your way of thinking is taking over. Those opposed are still here and we also vote.
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(04-16-2014 12:37 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Most states allow it for chemo patients. This isn't even remotely connected to legalization for medical or recreational use.

Yeah, but until now, not Alabama. We take great pride in being in the last 5 of everything that isn't football.
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(04-16-2014 12:44 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(04-16-2014 12:37 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Most states allow it for chemo patients. This isn't even remotely connected to legalization for medical or recreational use.

Yeah, but until now, not Alabama. We take great pride in being in the last 5 of everything that isn't football.

actually, we beat you regarding tattoos. Mississippi and Oklahoma were last.

It's time face the very real fact that we are going to be several different countries.
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