The fact that HBCU's and the state of North Carolina are being called progressive is painfully hilarious.
1. HBCUs were created so African Americans wouldn't "invade" the all white state schools. Think about it... I don't see a black student going to UNC Chapel Hill in 1920s going over too well, do you? Look at what happened in Ole Miss and Alabama, Hell look at what's still going on at those universities.
2. North Carolina was THE battleground of college student sit-ins. Ask those college students that were beat to a pulp if North Carolina was "progressive" back then.

3. The citizens of North Carolina voting to add a gay marriage BAN to their state constitution really doesn't align itself with what is seen as modern day progressivism.

Don't let the media fool you, just because some citizens were abolitionists, that doesn't mean that they weren't racist. Look at Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and Cincinnati racial riots during the Antebellum period. Heck, look at the Boston civil rights movement riots in the 60s.

I know Florida has no room to talk... We were the second state to succeed into the CSA, moved black children away from their homes to an "all boys school" in Dozier, where boys were beaten, tortured, starved, and raped throughout the 1900's, and we were the last state in the entire nation to no longer prevent gay and lesbian civil union partners to adopt children, which was law until just four years ago.

Again, we have zero room to talk, but c'mon man.

(05-01-2014 06:47 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  The fact that HBCU's and the state of North Carolina are both being called progressive is painfully hilarious.
1. HBCUs were created so African Americans wouldn't "invade" the all white state schools. Yeah, I don't see a black student going to UNC Chapel Hill in 1920s going over too well.
2. North Carolina was THE battleground of college student sit-ins. Ask those college students that were beat to a pulp if North Carolina was "progressive" back then.

(04-16-2014 01:37 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:16 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 01:58 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Lol app doesn't have a low ratio because it's racist it has a low ratio because there are atleast three hbcu s in nc that are large and well regarded the majority of our African Americans are there because app has better athletics, I don't have a link but I'm sure app has a high or comparable percentage of African Americans accepted as the white percentage. Sorry that nc was a very progressive southern state that has many hbcus and that many African Americans prefer those.


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Say what? NC progressive?

Hampton University
Hampton, VA 23668

Norfolk State University
Norfolk, VA 23504-998

Virginia State University
Petersburg 23806

Virginia Union University
Richmond 23220

Also in the historical context much of nc was progressive due to the fact nc isn't good land for plantations, the population of nc was split literally down the middle during the civil war with half serving in the CSA and half in the USA, as well we had one of the first if not the first all free black communities, Virginia was the host of the capital of the CSA and the part of Virginia that was progressive and against slavery split during the war aka West Virginia. As well it should be noted that the fiercest anti slavery section of nc was in the mountains. Home to my beautiful Boone, NC.


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North Carolina was FANTASTIC for plantations. Not for your average cotton plantation, but for tobacco and rice. North Carolina and Virginia both were actually world renowned for their tobacco leaves in the 18th and 19th centuries. Such success from this crop, is actually what sparked the first MASS importation of African slaves. The mountain regions of NC did mostly remain loyal, but as did the coastal areas. This is due to the fact that both extreme Western and Eastern NC are unsuitable for cash crops, hence the no need of slavery and no desire to support the outmatch Rebels.
North Carolina was not split down the half during the Civil War; and even if it was, that doesn't mean that those that fought for the Union believed in any form of African American civil rights whatsoever. If I remember correctly, 170,000 men served during the war from North Carolina, 150,000 of which fought for the Confederacy. If my math is correct, that is not "split literally down the middle." Please, don't confuse yourself with pro-Union supporters and progressive. If you do, then I suggest reading up on this little thing in American history called Reconstruction.