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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
(04-14-2014 05:20 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-14-2014 05:16 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  
(04-14-2014 06:35 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
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(04-13-2014 07:40 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  I think my plan accomplishes that goal when we eliminate FCS opposition

not when you add in 6 or 7 more conference losses every season

when you play a D1-AA team even as a CUSA team you have a pretty good chance for a win and if every CUSA team plays 1 D1-AA school that could be as high as 14-0

when you switch that out for a conference game the BEST you will ever get is 7 wins and of course 7 corresponding losses as well

when you need to fill bowl slots that 1 extra win per team can matter for some teams and the conference as well

I have no idea what you're trying to say, dude. Maybe it's too early in the morning or something but I read that 3 times and still don't understand your comment.

I got lost too. 14 games? If you play 14 the you are playing a 12 game season plus a conf championship plus a bowl game. No team with 7 loses will play 14 games well maybe an SEC school.

there are 14 teams in CUSA

when you play 1 less game in the OOC per team that is 14 games

if each CUSA team plays 1 D1-AA game per season that is 14 games and every one of those games should be a win to go 14-0 in those 14 games for the conference

if you instead play 14 more conference games the best you can do is 7-7 for the conference

No math it confuses people :)

I know what you are saying and agree with it the best and worse we can do is 7-7 (as a conference) if we add another conference game...

7 teams will win and 7 will lose
Play that game OOC and you have the chance to win all 14 but ...........

you can also lose them all but if that happens we all suck anyways
04-15-2014 10:21 AM
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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
(04-13-2014 05:44 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  Let me start by saying that I like all 14 schools in C-USA. I'd be very happy if we stayed with our current line up for a long while, so this isn't about our make-up. It's about trying to bring the Conference even closer.

I'd love to see some discussion on a 9 game schedule. AS it stands, we play 6 division games and only 2 cross division games. That means that we only visit the "other side" completely once over 4 years (7 opponents with 2 cross divisionals in each of three years and the remaining 1 in the 4th year.) That's sustainable, of course, but could be improved by having 3 cross divisional opponents.

I understand that you need at least 6 home games to survive. This would give you 5 conference home games in year one and 4 in year two. With 3 OOC games, that could be balance with 1 in year one and 2 in year two.

Is it workable this way? Is it desirable? I would hope we could all eliminate the FCS games and schedule two G5 and 1 P5. Thoughts?

Is Western the only school playing 3 cross over games and 5 division games?

We have games vs UTEP & UTSA, and @Louisiana Tech and we don't play FIU
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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
C-USA schools traditionally don't win a ton of non-conference games. Playing FEWER non-conference games - and converting more of the ones you DO play into wins - may actually help the perception of the league going forward.
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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
(04-15-2014 07:13 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(04-14-2014 01:52 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  You make a good point that I hadn't thought of. Under the old arrangement, I really didn't care who the western teams were that we were playing. We lost all but one game we played in Texas and beat every Texas based team that we played in Huntington. So it didn't matter to me how often we played them. NOne of them were considered rivals, but they were interesting. So it wouldn't likely make much difference in today's environment, either. And I agree with having a regional team that our fans want to see, like Ohio, East Caroline, Bowling Green, Virginia Tech, Louisville, and I'd like to get something going with Maryland.

I concede the point! One Western team at home and one away works just fine.

I do think Marshall and Rice are building a rivalry. I just don't think UTSA and North Texas will roll over and let Rice keep winning the West. Marshall may be in for a long run of East championships.

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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
(04-15-2014 10:37 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  C-USA schools traditionally don't win a ton of non-conference games. Playing FEWER non-conference games - and converting more of the ones you DO play into wins - may actually help the perception of the league going forward.

Playing less OOC doesn't guarantee more wins - remember playing another game in conference ensures another win and another loss. A loss against a P5 is less of a sting than an upset loss to a program from the bottom of the conference.

More games, usually means more parity and that won't help the top of the conference get recognized in rankings and etc (just ask the old Big East).
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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
Since the bigger schools are going to stop playing the smaller schools for schedule strength. Having 9 conference games makes a lot of sense.
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RE: Why not 9 games in Conference for Football?
(04-13-2014 05:44 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  Let me start by saying that I like all 14 schools in C-USA. I'd be very happy if we stayed with our current line up for a long while, so this isn't about our make-up. It's about trying to bring the Conference even closer.

I'd love to see some discussion on a 9 game schedule. AS it stands, we play 6 division games and only 2 cross division games. That means that we only visit the "other side" completely once over 4 years (7 opponents with 2 cross divisionals in each of three years and the remaining 1 in the 4th year.) That's sustainable, of course, but could be improved by having 3 cross divisional opponents.

I understand that you need at least 6 home games to survive. This would give you 5 conference home games in year one and 4 in year two. With 3 OOC games, that could be balance with 1 in year one and 2 in year two.

Is it workable this way? Is it desirable? I would hope we could all eliminate the FCS games and schedule two G5 and 1 P5. Thoughts?

I think it's important for CUSA teams to have as many OOC games as possible to either boost their rankings or bring in more money.
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